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A pass rushing Ware that is allowed to take an inside rush. For the life of me I didn’t understand why in the previous season that A. Ware wasn’t allowed to rush more often and B. When he did rush he seldom used an inside rush or spin move.

This is what made Charles Haley so effective, imo. He had the ability to set up his moves based on making the OT guard against the inside rush. I don’t know if this was discussed but this is huge for advantage for Ware. An offensive lineman best defense against a speed rusher rushing outside is to get his head back, set his feet, and force a speed rusher wide or allow him to take his self out of the play. It is almost like a CB using inside technique so he can use the sideline to his advantage when he is trying to force the WR to take an outside or arc release.

The best counter to that is to have your outside rusher cross his face whether in a stunt or on pure pass rush move. This has a confounding effect because it slows the OT out the blocks, which makes it very difficult to over play the outside rush because when a rusher takes a hard move inside the OT footwork and technique are different. In other words, the lineman has to be more technically precise because he can’t rely on the rusher rushing his self out of the play. Also, if they guess wrong the QB is dead, plus the inside rush sets up a spin move back to the outside, a.k.a. the ice pick! IMO, the inside rush coupled with Ellis being back just added about 5 more sacks to Ware’s sack total and that is not factoring in the total amount of sacks he is going to get on blown assignments create by Wade’s overloading weak-side or confusing the QB’s and OL’s pre-snap reads. I think in the next few weeks we will witness Ware on a tear.

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I think it's great to have Ellis back.

I wonder if people remember just how solid this player is?

This can only help Ware.
 

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Good post.

I think we all know Parcells -- or, if it helps the discussion, Zimmer -- were anal about never getting out of position. So Wade had to stay in his confined area to hope to make a play. I mean, we'd hate to get gashed on draw play on a stunt and give up seven or eight yards... What a disaster that would be. ;)

I think part of Wade's stunting is not just to confuse the offense, but to get favorable matchups. So if an opposing guard is weak, the call might be to stunt Ware to get him matched up on that player. I believe this happened in the Chicago game. They had a guard get hurt and a backup came in. On either the very next play or the one right after, we stunted on that guy and boom, we got a sack. I can't remember for sure if it was Ware who beat him -- that might have been the play where Spencer got his sack. But either way, we specifically targeted that backup player, and it worked.
 

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Yeah, people are quick to forget how good of a pass rusher he was until he got hurt last year. Now that they he is playing happy not worried about the contract I expect even better things. Also, i'm glad he sat so long. I hope Glenn does the same come back when you're ready, we nedd you more in December.
 

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The only thing better than a pass rushing Ware is...a pass rushing Ware that doesn't get held.
 

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Future 585;1688235 said:
The only thing better than a pass rushing Ware is...a pass rushing Ware that doesn't get held.


Don't get too carried away.
 

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adbutcher;1688061 said:
A pass rushing Ware that is allowed to take an inside rush. For the life of me I didn’t understand why in the previous season that A. Ware wasn’t allowed to rush more often and B. When he did rush he seldom used an inside rush or spin move.

This is what made Charles Haley so effective, imo. He had the ability to set up his moves based on making the OT guard against the inside rush. I don’t know if this was discussed but this is huge for advantage for Ware. An offensive lineman best defense against a speed rusher rushing outside is to get his head back, set his feet, and force a speed rusher wide or allow him to take his self out of the play. It is almost like a CB using inside technique so he can use the sideline to his advantage when he is trying to force the WR to take an outside or arc release.

The best counter to that is to have your outside rusher cross his face whether in a stunt or on pure pass rush move. This has a confounding effect because it slows the OT out the blocks, which makes it very difficult to over play the outside rush because when a rusher takes a hard move inside the OT footwork and technique are different. In other words, the lineman has to be more technically precise because he can’t rely on the rusher rushing his self out of the play. Also, if they guess wrong the QB is dead, plus the inside rush sets up a spin move back to the outside, a.k.a. the ice pick! IMO, the inside rush coupled with Ellis being back just added about 5 more sacks to Ware’s sack total and that is not factoring in the total amount of sacks he is going to get on blown assignments create by Wade’s overloading weak-side or confusing the QB’s and OL’s pre-snap reads. I think in the next few weeks we will witness Ware on a tear.

GO COWBOYS!

I couldn't agree more...:hammer:
 

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Future 585;1688235 said:
The only thing better than a pass rushing Ware is...a pass rushing Ware that doesn't get held.

Another benefit of rushing the passer on an inside move...it makes it easier see obvious holding.;)
 

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adbutcher;1688061 said:
A pass rushing Ware that is allowed to take an inside rush. For the life of me I didn’t understand why in the previous season that A. Ware wasn’t allowed to rush more often ..

The answer ===== >> Bradie James.

Ware had to cover the rear of the guy who couldn't cover fullbacks if they were painted in clown colors with 50 foot blinkin' neon signs over their heads.

Things have changed. Our LBs can cover some now.
 

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mitchell2254;1688242 said:
Don't get too carried away.

Yeah, like that's going to happen! Until the refs throw the flag a few times he's going to keep on being mugged in the backfield.
 

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dwmyers;1688818 said:
The answer ===== >> Bradie James.

Ware had to cover the rear of the guy who couldn't cover fullbacks if they were painted in clown colors with 50 foot blinkin' neon signs over their heads.

Things have changed. Our LBs can cover some now.

Keep up, we are talking about this season. :rolleyes:
 
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