The Packers are a FRAUD!

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Sorry, but this game proved to me that the Packers were al hype. All the talk about Romo being star-struck in Favre's presence was just "hype". What wasn't hype was that Faver got star-struck but Dallas' "real" defense, and that Romo and the Cowboys' WRs were not phased by the Packers' "fraudulant" defense.

What wasn't hype was that the packers' offense was "nothing but hype" all game - both before Faver got hurt, when Dallas was actually playing, and after Favere got hurt, when Dallas esentially stopped playing, knowing full well the game was over in the first half, and simply just tried to manage a win over a clearly inferior opponet thereafter.

In the end, I'm really left unimpressed by the Packers. Maybe if Dallas was just an average team in Green Bay's class, I'd feel differently. But since Dallas is clearly in an elite class all by themselves in this conference, I'm simply left unimpressed with the Green Bay Football product. Everything's relative, I suppose.

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Romo didn't even have to be clutch and win us the game from behind. I love our chances at a rematch.
 

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I was more impressed with the Cowboys than un-impressed by the Packers. Ryan Grant hurt us pretty good when he had the ball. That big TD run kept them in the game when we were getting ready to blow it open. The Packers defense is stout, they just rely too heavily on man coverage, and Garrett's gameplan against that was nothing short of brilliant. Receivers in motion, creating natural picks against the press....Red Jesus, I think I love you.
 

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I thought before Favre went out we kinda proved we were the better team, still if we played a game w/o Ware & Newman and Romo got KO'd in the 2nd qtr of a game, would we like the results our team gets?

they are a good team...I dont think they are a fraud at all and we will probably see them again in January

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dbair1967;1801502 said:
I thought before Favre went out we kinda proved we were the better team, still if we played a game w/o Ware & Newman and Romo got KO'd in the 2nd qtr of a game, would we like the results our team gets?

they are a good team...I dont think they are a fraud at all and we will probably see them again in January

David

Good point, although maybe we wouldn't have minded if Romo was playing like last night's Favre, lol.

Injuries are never an excuse, but it does bear mentioning that they were short handed, on the road. Of course, we're still playing without an upper-tier WR and a very good NT, so there is that, too.
 

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The Packers are a good team, and they are dangerous. I do believe that Dallas is better, even when the Packers are healthy, but why do you say they're a "fraud"? That seems unnecessary. They're good but not quite as good as us.
 

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superpunk;1801501 said:
I was more impressed with the Cowboys than un-impressed by the Packers. Ryan Grant hurt us pretty good when he had the ball. That big TD run kept them in the game when we were getting ready to blow it open. The Packers defense is stout, they just rely too heavily on man coverage, and Garrett's gameplan against that was nothing short of brilliant. Receivers in motion, creating natural picks against the press....Red Jesus, I think I love you.

Ryan Grant hurt Dallas on one play, the 62 yarder. Other than that Dallas contained him. More than contained him. He rushed 13 more times for 32 yards, which is a 2.46 average. That long run was more a fluke than a great run.

I was impressed with Dallas and still think they can play better. There is always room for improvement.
 

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joseephuss;1801527 said:
Ryan Grant hurt Dallas on one play, the 62 yarder. Other than that Dallas contained him. More than contained him. He rushed 13 more times for 32 yards, which is a 2.46 average. That long run was more a fluke than a great run.

I was impressed with Dallas and still think they can play better. There is always room for improvement.

That's gonna happen to players who get 14 carries. But you can't take those plays away, and so 92 yards on 14 carries remains impressive to me, no matter how you slice it.

B to a B+ effort on the night IMO. Things need tightened up. Refs need to stop calling DeMarcus offsides when he isn't.
 

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superpunk;1801529 said:
That's gonna happen to players who get 14 carries. But you can't take those plays away, and so 92 yards on 14 carries remains impressive to me, no matter how you slice it.

B to a B+ effort on the night IMO. Things need tightened up. Refs need to stop calling DeMarcus offsides when he isn't.

I am not taking the play away, but I just didn't see him gouging the Cowboys consistently. The stats say he averaged 6.7 yards per carry. If he were truly getting over 5 yards a carry I would be really worried. As you say things do need to be tightened up. They need to tackle better and take better angles. That has been an issue all season.

I agree about Ware and offsides. He timed that one beautifully.
 

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joseephuss;1801533 said:
I am not taking the play away, but I just didn't see him gouging the Cowboys consistently. The stats say he averaged 6.7 yards per carry. If he were truly getting over 5 yards a carry I would be really worried. As you say things do need to be tightened up. They need to tackle better and take better angles. That has been an issue all season.

I agree about Ware and offsides. He timed that one beautifully.

http://img20.*************/img20/199/wareoffsidespackers07tr2.gif

Add that to his 2 sacks that weren't because of grounding calls, and we'd have a DPOY shoo-in. As it is, he's gonna need to bring it hard against Detroit and Philly. :p:
 

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superpunk;1801539 said:
http://img20.*************/img20/199/wareoffsidespackers07tr2.gif

Add that to his 2 sacks that weren't because of grounding calls, and we'd have a DPOY shoo-in. As it is, he's gonna need to bring it hard against Detroit and Philly. :p:

Goodness that is a beauty to watch. Brings a tear to my face this morning.
 

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I wouldn't call them a fraud...they are a solid team....we're just better right now that's all.
 

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I was very underwhelmed by the Packer as well, especially their much ballyhooed defense.

Every guy they felt they needed to stop ended up being the reason they lost. Terrell Owens made them pay early and in the 4th Quarter, they could not stop Witten or Marion Barber.

Good teams usually force other players to beat you.
 

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With or without KGB (and Flozell could have handled him anyway) I don't think the Pack can get any pressure on Romo. That is the difference between them and us that has me confident in a rematch with all their players.

Romo had all day and with or without Woodson, all day and Romo is going to tear them up!
 

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superpunk;1801529 said:
Refs need to stop calling DeMarcus offsides when he isn't.
Great point. Wade needs to point this out to the refs that Ware is not jumping early.
 

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superpunk;1801529 said:
That's gonna happen to players who get 14 carries. But you can't take those plays away, and so 92 yards on 14 carries remains impressive to me, no matter how you slice it.

B to a B+ effort on the night IMO. Things need tightened up. Refs need to stop calling DeMarcus offsides when he isn't.

actually you can take those plays away........well if you are Dallas you can......and how, you might ask?

Answer: by not committing the stupid 3rd down defensive penalty that allowed the drive to continue a few plays prior to that long run. If Dallas had remained disciplined, the Packers would had to punt, and thus no long run for Grant. In fact, all 3 first half scoring drives for the Packers were aided by key 3rd down penalties by Dallas, that allowed the drives to continue. If Dallas doesn't go stupid on those plays, GB probably has a nice, fat goose egg going into the half.

I was impressed with Grant though, considering GB was pass happy for most of the game, Grant ran very hard and was tough to bring down on a lot of runs. He has given that team hope for the future of their running game.

I am very impressed with Jennings and have been all year. That kid is going to be a very good WR for a long time if he can remain healthy.

I am not impressed with Rodgers. Yes he played well when he was in there, but he also didn't have the Cowboys being aggressive either. He had the luxury of not having a team game plan against him. Dallas sat back and played some funky zone or something and simply allowed the kid to pick them apart. I am sure he will have a much tougher go when a team actually game plans for him and the defense brings the thunder at him.
 

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Biggems;1801644 said:
actually you can take those plays away........well if you are Dallas you can......and how, you might ask?

Answer: by not committing the stupid 3rd down defensive penalty that allowed the drive to continue a few plays prior to that long run. If Dallas had remained disciplined, the Packers would had to punt, and thus no long run for Grant. In fact, all 3 first half scoring drives for the Packers were aided by key 3rd down penalties by Dallas, that allowed the drives to continue. If Dallas doesn't go stupid on those plays, GB probably has a nice, fat goose egg going into the half.

I was impressed with Grant though, considering GB was pass happy for most of the game, Grant ran very hard and was tough to bring down on a lot of runs. He has given that team hope for the future of their running game.

I am very impressed with Jennings and have been all year. That kid is going to be a very good WR for a long time if he can remain healthy.

I am not impressed with Rodgers. Yes he played well when he was in there, but he also didn't have the Cowboys being aggressive either. He had the luxury of not having a team game plan against him. Dallas sat back and played some funky zone or something and simply allowed the kid to pick them apart. I am sure he will have a much tougher go when a team actually game plans for him and the defense brings the thunder at him.

One of those penalties was the supposed offisides on Ware. It was not a stupid play on his part. It was a great play that the ref missed.
 

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superpunk;1801539 said:
http://img20.*************/img20/199/wareoffsidespackers07tr2.gif

Add that to his 2 sacks that weren't because of grounding calls, and we'd have a DPOY shoo-in. As it is, he's gonna need to bring it hard against Detroit and Philly. :p:

I'm willing to bet there isn't 5 other players in the league that could get that good of a start.... if they knew the snap count.
 
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