The Parcells Factor...

CaptainAmerica

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...Hear me out here guys and gals because I know this may ruffle some of you.
But if Bill Parcells ultimately signed off on us bringing in T.O. I would LOVE it, even though I can't stand T.O. for his antics the past 5 years or so.

That is how much respect I have for Parcells and his uncanny ability to get inside the head of a player to reach him and make him subjugate himself to the team concept. No other coach has the gift Parcells has and I believe he is the one coach, if anyone can, who could handle T.O.

Parcells himself said it..."You really have to know the player and know what's going on with him." If T.O. comes to Dallas you can bet Big Bill will have done more homework on him than any other player he's ever researched.

Michael Irvin said on Monday Night Countdown that T.O., in private, realizes he screwed up big time, this time and that he is very contrite and even embarrassed about what happened. The possible loss of $850,000 in salary, in a little over a month has a way of getting anyone's attention, including T.O. So, whoever gets T.O. this time will be getting a T.O. who realizes he's one strike away from being out of the NFL. You may not think that would get T.O.'s attention, but I guarantee you it will.
Also, I believe Irvin has been and will continue to tell T.O. that Jerry Jones is the absolute best owner to play for in all of professional sports because Jerry loves his players and especially the ones who perform on the big stages and make big-time plays for him.

As for T.O.'s effect on the field, it simply cannot be overstated. His presence opposite Key, thus moving Glenn to the slot and Crayton in the 3rd or 4th WR role would create impossible mismatches for every defense in the league. Glenn is getting older and Parcells realizes he must limit Glenn's role more as each year passes and thus, make Glenn a more effective player at this point in his career. Crayton is a young pup who has plenty of time and will probably move into Key's starting spot in a couple or 3 years.

I leave you with one final statistic on T.O.
On Monday Night Countdown they gave the list of the offensive players in the NFL the last 2 years with multiple plays covering 50 yards or more. The Skins' Santana Moss was second on the list with 14, (think about his effect this year on the Skins). :mad:
But #1 on the list was T.O., with 15 plays in the past 2 seasons of over 50 yards. That is impressive even to a cynic like me.

So guys and gals, as much as I don't like T.O., the bottom line in this business is very simple...WIN SUPER BOWLS. When you compare the risk/reward with T.O. and then factor in the unique advantage we have over every team in the league, and that is Bill Parcells and his ability to handle players, you have to support the decision if Parcells brings T.O. to Dallas.

Flame away and I'll hang up and listen.
 

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I wouldn't mind having TO on the team. The guy is a physical specimen and a complete player. The problem is who do you get rid of? Also, the most important thing is team chemistry. If he f*cks that up, and it looks like he can do that very easily, I don't want him.
 

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That is the one wild card in the equation.

As much of a Freak as TO is......Parcells "powers" just may be able to tame him.

And there is another wild card.

Perhaps...just perhaps...it is all about money for TO. If you give him a salary that is equivelant to his market value....then perhaps the problem goes away.

But you had better be damn sure before you start down that path.

Me...I'm betting that Parcells can't get through to him just like he could not get through to that wideout who is now in Cleveland

I'm also betting that it is not just a money issue with TO. The guy is insane. And he is going to become a worse cancer once age starts to catch up to him.
 

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Mike 1967 said:
That is the one wild card in the equation.

As much of a Freak as TO is......Parcells "powers" just may be able to tame him.

And there is another wild card.

Perhaps...just perhaps...it is all about money for TO. If you give him a salary that is equivelant to his market value....then perhaps the problem goes away.

But you had better be damn sure before you start down that path.

Me...I'm betting that Parcells can't get through to him just like he could not get through to that wideout who is now in Cleveland

I'm also betting that it is not just a money issue with TO. The guy is insane. And he is going to become a worse cancer once age starts to catch up to him.


Mike, I agree with your points. But, the distinction between Bryant and T.O. would be this. Parcells inherited Antonio Bryant and so he had no choice but to work with him. He couldn't and so AB, like Q, was out of here.

If T.O. ever comes to Dallas it will be because Big Bill researched him, just like he did Bryant Cox, (another insane idiot a few years ago Bill had remarkable success with), and Bill decided to put him on the team. That point is crucial to the debate.
 

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Am I dreaming or didn't parcell make the statement that he was getting too old to deal with thugs.
 

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kycowboyfan said:
Am I dreaming or didn't parcell make the statement that he was getting too old to deal with thugs.

Depends on your definition of "thugs". T.O. has never been arrested or has a history with drugs or bad off-the-field activities like strip clubs, etc.

Keep in mind, I'm not defending T.O. at all, I'm just saying if he ends up in Dallas you'll know if T.O. fits Parcells definition of a "thug".

I gotta feeling that Parcells is going to look long and hard at a guy who has 15 plays of over 50 yards in the past 2 seasons.

JMO, but there is way too much smoke out there from all the national sources, (Peter King, Mort) and the locals, (like JJT in the pre-season and now Norm), for there not to be some fire to these rumors about T.O. and Dallas.
 

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I think TO will probably be a nice bargain for some team next year and I agree with you, I think Parcells certainly can handle him, but I wonder what happens after Parcells leaves. I personally would want it to be no more than a two year deal, and only under your stipulation that Parcells researched it heavily and really believed he could make it work. I would not want Jerry to talk Parcells into this one. I would want a committed Parcells, because this would be a task.

Captain America (or anyone else who wants to reply) since you said that you feel Parcells gives us an advantage over every team in the league in his handling of players, I'm curious, and I was going to start a thread on this but decided to reply to yours instead, are there any other areas that you feel that way about Parcells? Any ways that you feel he puts us at a disadvantage to other teams in the league?
 

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Am I just dreaming, or is the idea of TO coming to Dallas starting to NOT offend people around here as much? This post would have caused widespread panic and hysteria three days ago.
 

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sporadic said:
Am I just dreaming, or is the idea of TO coming to Dallas starting to NOT offend people around here as much? This post would have caused widespread panic and hysteria three days ago.
I have stated, and will say again, that if, after meeting with TO, Parcells signs off on TO coming to Dallas, I will support that, .. and be glad to have him probably.

I feel that Parcells could control him if he is indeed controlable.

(But I hate the end zone dances) :D
 

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I am not disagreeing with that...BP is the coach, and he knows better than any of us, I will assume that he has the teams best interest in mind whatever he does...and cheer for whoever wears the star.
 

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TO didn't get Philly over the hump..... why would he put us over the hump???

You guys make it sound like he's the missing piece and that he will get us to the promised land.
 

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WV Cowboy said:
I have stated, and will say again, that if, after meeting with TO, Parcells signs off on TO coming to Dallas, I will support that, .. and be glad to have him probably.

I feel that Parcells could control him if he is indeed controlable.

(But I hate the end zone dances) :D

Basically my view on it as well, except I don't hate the dances all the time.


If Parcells wants T.O. on board, then by golley, bring him on. I know many of us wanted to gnash our teeth when the Primetime rumors first came out, but being the best player currently playing your position (with about 3 others) certainly smooths things over a bit, as we saw with Deion. Just like Deion, you love him if he is on your team and hate him if he ain't.

Indeed the Parcells factor is huge here as the possibility of such a move being successfull increases dramatically with Captain P at the helm.
 

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You know there is one thing about T.O. that always puzzled me.

As disruptive as he has been in San Fran and now Philly, he had a very curious reaction when his agent, David Joseph, messed up and didn't file the papers in time for him to become a FA. I fully expected T.O. to go off on the poor guy and publicly lambast him, fire him and ruin the guy professionally.
But he didn't do that. If you recall, T.O. supported Joseph and said something like "hey he made a mistake, but I still respect him and want him as my agent". Joseph negotiated the deal with the 49ers and Philly, got T.O. a trade and a new contract and everything seemed alright.

We now learn that after the Super Bowl Drew Rosenhaus approached T.O. through Jevon Kearse and sells T.O. on what a bad deal the Eagles gave him and how he, Rosenhaus, will be able to get him a better deal. at that point, Rosenhaus gets in T.O.'s head and T.O. fires his friend/agent. But, if you remember, T.O. did it very respectfully, even saying he and his agent would remain friends.

As T.O. now looks back on all that's happened I can't help but wonder if he doesn't realize what an intregal part Rosenhaus has played in the damage to his career.
 

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Personally, I think the cancer that is T.O. is a major reason why the Eagles are 4-5 right now. He may be gone, but he left his stain behind him there.

IMO, there is a huge downside to taking a risk on someone like him. Why do it when you don't need to?
 
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