The play calling leash

[CouchCoach]

McC wanted to bring Moore back because he sees him as creative and innovative after just one season and there was speculation that his former HC might have held him back. I really didn't see him as either Sunday night.

He gave over the play calling duties to his OC but one thing has changed significantly from 2019, if what we saw Sunday is an indication, that OL is no longer the strength of the team.

It's a lot easier to call plays with a top 5 OL and if you watched that Giants game last night, Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Now, the question is how long McC can let this go with Moore calling the plays because calling plays with a damaged OL was McC's calling card, it also helped having the QB's he had.

The Cowboys face ATL this Sunday which is not a gimme and then onto SEA and are likely to be 1-2 and how willing will McC be to put his comeback, his road to redemption in the hands of Moore?

It was really hard to read McC in that game because of the mask but being a spectator and watching his offense only manage 17 points had to be difficult on him and I wonder if that leash got a little shorter after that game?

The other side of this is coaches evaluate execution a lot more than we do, we look to fix the blame and they look at the plays v execution. If the patterns were run correctly and the catches made, does that have a different outcome?

 

[GMO415]

"Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL"........really Coach? I thought it was 1995 last night all over again.

 

[Parcells4Life]

McC wanted to bring Moore back because he sees him as creative and innovative after just one season and there was speculation that his former HC might have held him back. I really didn't see him as either Sunday night.

He gave over the play calling duties to his OC but one thing has changed significantly from 2019, if what we saw Sunday is an indication, that OL is no longer the strength of the team.

It's a lot easier to call plays with a top 5 OL and if you watched that Giants game last night, Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Now, the question is how long McC can let this go with Moore calling the plays because calling plays with a damaged OL was McC's calling card, it also helped having the QB's he had.

The Cowboys face ATL this Sunday which is not a gimme and then onto SEA and are likely to be 1-2 and how willing will McC be to put his comeback, his road to redemption in the hands of Moore?

It was really hard to read McC in that game because of the mask but being a spectator and watching his offense only manage 17 points had to be difficult on him and I wonder if that leash got a little shorter after that game?

The other side of this is coaches evaluate execution a lot more than we do, we look to fix the blame and they look at the plays v execution. If the patterns were run correctly and the catches made, does that have a different outcome?

This is what upsets me from last night. With a Garrett game plan from last night combined with the talent he had here, this would have been Chiefs style football. Perhaps it really took him getting fired for him to realize what the league is doing offensively.

 

[Parcells4Life]

"Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL"........really Coach? I thought it was 1995 last night all over again.

Did you watch the game? The tempo they went at was the fastest I’ve seen any NFL team go after successful plays. Instead of running it up the middle on 3rd and 4th and short they were using play action and leaking TEs out across the field. Just because the Giants aren’t good, doesn’t mean the schemes weren’t impressive.

 

[GMO415]

Did you watch the game? The tempo they went at was the fastest I’ve seen any NFL team go after successful plays. Instead of running it up the middle on 3rd and 4th and short they were using play action and leaking TEs out across the field. Just because the Giants aren’t good, doesn’t mean the schemes weren’t impressive.

They stalled just like DAL has under his command. Running the ball on 1st down and facing 2 and 10, 3rd and 13 etc.

 

[jazzcat22]

All I seen in the Giants game was Barkley get tackled in the back field.
I don't care or want to hear excuse about their OL. Dallas was missing OL also. Zeke did way better.

I will wait and see adjustments in the Atlanta game before I even start to form an opinion.
Agree though game one we seen nothing new.

However I loved the crossing route to CeeDee as it reminded me of Dez doing that. However, every time it worked, even with Dez, they go away from it.
It is like Moore / Linehan has the entire game plan and plays scripted. like a list, checks off the plays as they go down the list. But never do back to see what works best.

It is like a list I keep for stocks. I go down the list and research each one. But if one does not look good at the time, I will note a comment, and go back and look at it again at another time. Until I am sure I do not want to buy it.

 

[CouchCoach]

"Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL"........really Coach? I thought it was 1995 last night all over again.

Comparatively speaking. He's not creative, in fact, most of them aren't. He learned under Norv Turner.

 

[GMO415]

Comparatively speaking. He's not creative, in fact, most of them aren't. He learned under Norv Turner.

I give Norm credit when he worked with Cam Newton. Ole Norv changed things up to exploit his strengths. Moore should be doing the same for Dak, with an average OL.

 

[Diehardblues]

McC wanted to bring Moore back because he sees him as creative and innovative after just one season and there was speculation that his former HC might have held him back. I really didn't see him as either Sunday night.

He gave over the play calling duties to his OC but one thing has changed significantly from 2019, if what we saw Sunday is an indication, that OL is no longer the strength of the team.

It's a lot easier to call plays with a top 5 OL and if you watched that Giants game last night, Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Now, the question is how long McC can let this go with Moore calling the plays because calling plays with a damaged OL was McC's calling card, it also helped having the QB's he had.

The Cowboys face ATL this Sunday which is not a gimme and then onto SEA and are likely to be 1-2 and how willing will McC be to put his comeback, his road to redemption in the hands of Moore?

It was really hard to read McC in that game because of the mask but being a spectator and watching his offense only manage 17 points had to be difficult on him and I wonder if that leash got a little shorter after that game?

The other side of this is coaches evaluate execution a lot more than we do, we look to fix the blame and they look at the plays v execution. If the patterns were run correctly and the catches made, does that have a different outcome?

This is where Jethro meddling rises to the occasion since he’s the one who stipulated retaining Moore as a pre- hire requisite which actually gives Mikey some leeway.

But at some point the discussion will need to be made. And if Jethro agrees to take away the play calling from Moore then we will begin to see this coaching situation dismantle or completely turn around which could mark the end for one of them. Drama.. lol

 

[visionary]

McC wanted to bring Moore back because he sees him as creative and innovative after just one season and there was speculation that his former HC might have held him back. I really didn't see him as either Sunday night.

He gave over the play calling duties to his OC but one thing has changed significantly from 2019, if what we saw Sunday is an indication, that OL is no longer the strength of the team.

It's a lot easier to call plays with a top 5 OL and if you watched that Giants game last night, Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Now, the question is how long McC can let this go with Moore calling the plays because calling plays with a damaged OL was McC's calling card, it also helped having the QB's he had.

The Cowboys face ATL this Sunday which is not a gimme and then onto SEA and are likely to be 1-2 and how willing will McC be to put his comeback, his road to redemption in the hands of Moore?

It was really hard to read McC in that game because of the mask but being a spectator and watching his offense only manage 17 points had to be difficult on him and I wonder if that leash got a little shorter after that game?

The other side of this is coaches evaluate execution a lot more than we do, we look to fix the blame and they look at the plays v execution. If the patterns were run correctly and the catches made, does that have a different outcome?

I don’t think Mike can switch it up
If this is not his offense he can’t call plays and can’t change the offense in mid season

I think we’re gonna have to live with boy wonder for this season

 

[Diehardblues]

I don’t think Mike can switch it up
If this is not his offense he can’t call plays and can’t change the offense in mid season

I think we’re gonna have to live with boy wonder for this season

Now this is an interesting thought. He’s right. This isn’t Mikeys offense. How will he change it up during the season.

He of course could begin inserting himself more with play calls . Hopefully not like the 4th and 3 call.

As always even if Moore is calling the plays , a HC will often insert his preference for the play or scheme for a drive or situation without calling every play.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I want to see MM take over play calling

 

[Jake]

McC wanted to bring Moore back because he sees him as creative and innovative after just one season and there was speculation that his former HC might have held him back. I really didn't see him as either Sunday night.

Did McCarthy really bring him back? If Jerry wanted Moore gone he'd have been sent packing before McCarthy was hired, so what choice did McCarthy really have?

What former head coach, who called his own offense, gets a new head coaching job and turns those duties over to someone he doesn't know and has less experience?

Come on. Keeping Moore was a Jerry move, regardless of what they've said publicly.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Now this is an interesting thought. He’s right. This isn’t Mikeys offense. How will he change it up during the season. He of course could begin inserting himself more sigh play calls . Hopefully not like the 4th and 3 call.

As always even if Moore is calling the plays , a HC will often insert his preference for the play or scheme for a drive or situation without calling every play.

The 4th and 3 was a great call. The 3rd and 6 call was trash

 

[CATCH17]

Barkley is a feast or famine player and doesn’t play like a 230 pound back.


He almost needs to be used like Alvin Kamara.

 

[Diehardblues]

The 4th and 3 was a great call. The 3rd and 6 call was trash

If you say so.

 

[Diehardblues]

Did McCarthy really bring him back? If Jerry wanted Moore gone he'd have been sent packing before McCarthy was hired, so what choice did McCarthy really have?

What former head coach, who called his own offense, gets a new head coaching job and turns those duties over to someone he doesn't know and has less experience?

Come on. Keeping Moore was a Jerry move, regardless of what they've said publicly.

Of course. Doesn’t mean Mikey didn’t like him but Jethro obviously pushed retaining Moore.

 

[blueblood70]

McC wanted to bring Moore back because he sees him as creative and innovative after just one season and there was speculation that his former HC might have held him back. I really didn't see him as either Sunday night.

He gave over the play calling duties to his OC but one thing has changed significantly from 2019, if what we saw Sunday is an indication, that OL is no longer the strength of the team.

It's a lot easier to call plays with a top 5 OL and if you watched that Giants game last night, Garrett called a more creative game than he had in Dallas with a top OL. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Now, the question is how long McC can let this go with Moore calling the plays because calling plays with a damaged OL was McC's calling card, it also helped having the QB's he had.

The Cowboys face ATL this Sunday which is not a gimme and then onto SEA and are likely to be 1-2 and how willing will McC be to put his comeback, his road to redemption in the hands of Moore?

It was really hard to read McC in that game because of the mask but being a spectator and watching his offense only manage 17 points had to be difficult on him and I wonder if that leash got a little shorter after that game?

The other side of this is coaches evaluate execution a lot more than we do, we look to fix the blame and they look at the plays v execution. If the patterns were run correctly and the catches made, does that have a different outcome?

4 games i suspect

 

[cern]

moore wasn't playing rt, erudites.

 

[blueblood70]

Did you watch the game? The tempo they went at was the fastest I’ve seen any NFL team go after successful plays. Instead of running it up the middle on 3rd and 4th and short they were using play action and leaking TEs out across the field. Just because the Giants aren’t good, doesn’t mean the schemes weren’t impressive.

Barkley had like 10 yards and .4 YPC lol thats not 1995

But eh zeke hate posts when many rbs had 1-0ties worse games is laughable..