The player positives so far

[jazzcat22]

Not Carson ,I'm sorry , the guy lost all credibility started out looking good in camp had a good play here and there completely sharded his pants my man I mean he didn't look good at all he got was burned to a crisp the man's nickname was toast before he got hurt thank God for the other two dudes the one I can't pronounce his name playing pretty well he's back on the roster this week in Butler but still too small a sample size to save whether we can put him in that group but Carson if you if you wanna concede something it's gotta be Carson...

I disagree. I think all 3 showed some promise. Even if a small sample.

 

[dupree89]

I wanted to post a thread with some positives about some young players for a change. Even as bad as this season has been, there have been some good things, even if there haven’t been many.

So here are some positives I’ve seen from players in the 2024 season so far in no particular order.

• Brandon Aubrey continues to be one of the best, most accurate kickers in the NFL. It’s not an exaggeration to say he is the best, most consistent player on this team.
• DeMarvion Overshown has been a star in the making in what has essentially been a rookie season because he missed all of last year with that knee injury. He has 84 tackles, 5 sacks, 8 TFL, and a pick 6. The sky is the limit for this kid.
• Rico Dowdle has shown he is a capable NFL running back. IMO, he needs to be paired with another back who has breakaway potential but we will have to wait and hope this hapless FO drafts a RB to pair with Rico next year.
• Micah Parsons - although he missed multiple games with a high ankle sprain, his recent return to the lineup has reminded us that he remains one of the most disruptive defensive players in the league. Paired with Overshown, we have some hope to build around on D.
• Deron Bland has missed 10 games this season but his recent return shows his value by how often QBs refuse to throw his way. IMO he’s way better than Trevon Diggs. If Bland can stay healthy, he‘s our 2nd or 3rd best defensive player.
• Cooper Beebe. I hesitated to list CB here. Although he has not been great, he has shown flashes of potential to be great. This being his first year to ever play C, he has done well at times, just not consistently. But he has a bright future at C or G depending on who we draft next year, thinking we need more help at OL.

So what are some other player positives? Anyone else I left off?

good post. My extra 3 would be Turpin, Butler, Hoffman

 

[blueblood70]

I disagree. I think all 3 showed some promise. Even if a small sample.

I bet there's not a person in here that would put Carson on their list he literally was absolutely toasted most of the place he was the reason we were getting burned but that's OK you have your list we have ours but Carson doesn't make I guarantee just about everyone's list here not even small sample size he looked good in preseason he looked good a couple of plays into the season then all of a sudden he was toast when they started going at him he just absolutely had a big poop stain on him bro//

 

[gtb1943]

a rookie CB is going to be a target and he was; did OK for a game or two and then the wheels fell off
hard to tell if he really is that bad or just lost confidence

Would like to give him another shot next year but I would not pencil him in as a starter at all

 

[jazzcat22]

I bet there's not a person in here that would put Carson on their list he literally was absolutely toasted most of the place he was the reason we were getting burned but that's OK you have your list we have ours but Carson doesn't make I guarantee just about everyone's list here not even small sample size he looked good in preseason he looked good a couple of plays into the season then all of a sudden he was toast when they started going at him he just absolutely had a big poop stain on him bro//

I do not care what others think or say. He is on my list as a positive. Even if a slight positive.
I am not here to put down what players are on ones list or not. Nor to argue about it.
I am not trying to convince any fan of anything.

 

[blueblood70]

I do not care what others think or say. He is on my list as a positive. Even if a slight positive.
I am not here to put down what players are on ones list or not. Nor to argue about it.
I am not trying to convince any fan of anything.

Actually it would be a democracy in here we literally have to vote on who we think should make that list not just put a name but they're gonna have to be enough votes for that player to be put on that list.

Do you better start pandering get people on your boats buy some boats because right now you're the only one with one vote..

 

[jazzcat22]

Actually it would be a democracy in here we literally have to vote on who we think should make that list not just put a name but they're gonna have to be enough votes for that player to be put on that list.

Do you better start pandering get people on your boats buy some boats because right now you're the only one with one vote..

What do you not understand that I don’t care what others say? I have not seen anyone come in and support you yet.
Nor me. Because they don’t care either.

This is not about being correct.

 

[fivetwos]

-It’s been mentioned but Bass and Hoffman are genuine positives. I think they are completely fine on the OL for now, especially inside. The ‘best five’ lip service bs has to include Tyler at LT, but let’s see what they actually do eventually.

-Overshown is obviously a bright spot, but his injury history will probably always be a concern.

-Yeah, he overdrafted himself, but Schoonmaker isn’t a terrible player. They are set at TE for a little while.

-Maybe Turpin can be more of a part of the offense than originally thought, but on every touch I worry he is going to be split in two.

 

[baltcowboy]

Zimmer as defensive coordinator. There were times when the Cowboys have had nothing on the defense because of injury and this defense would fight to keep us in the game. Our offense has been pathetic all season.

Side not Bebe has been below average but some of you act like he is the Overshown of the offense.

 

[shabazz]

Im POSITIVE that Jameis Winston has been the most entertaining player in the NFL this season


Not even a close 2nd.....

 

[DuncanIso]

Mazi Smith..........he better than last year That's worth something (lol)

His PFF numbers stink though.

 

[DuncanIso]

Yes we all saw it the Pittsburgh game should've been the game that he became the number one guy on the team that got the bulk of the carries unless he was needing to be rested or if he was injured it didn't happen!!

that's on the head coach, I mean the offensive coordinator , oh wait they're both the same guy,

we're over here blaming Jerry Jones for not bringing in the players which a lot of that is true but all the while our run game didn't need to have another guy off the street brought in he's every bit as good has at least 16 other runners when you look at what he's doing as far as breaking tackles, his yards per carry, pass catcher, he's actually a pretty good player.. that two years in a row have been misused in my opinion ..

everything I saw last year ,that they tried to make Tony be the next starter here, I think Rico should have got all those carries last year and Tony should have been the same player he's always been and yes he should have got almost the same amount of carries but in the different situations that used his speed , but right now to me Rico it's not much of a different player than Tony Pollard... When you watch Tony play he is not the player we lost that we should have kept you know there's no regret go look at a lot of his games he's had maybe one or two good games with the Titans but really been very average outside of that the man's making way too much money but the way Rico don't make that much money he's in my opinion that guy we need a speed guy like gives to go with him you know just like Bob said that would be nice to keep a guy like Rico or in my opinion if we lose him we lose him...

My plan would be this is a very deep draft with running backs you get a really good one in the first 3 rounds and then you pick up another one around the fifth round and you get 2 young running backs in here and go let them do it figure out which one of them is the best and then you feed them but I don't trust Mike McCarthy so hopefully he's actually gone because all these rumors now first it's Prescott now it's Parsons they're all actually getting in Jerry's ear about keeping McCarthy if McCarthy stays here he needs to be only the head coach and we need a new offensive staff...

Draft RB1 in the first Round.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Side not Bebe has been below average but some of you act like he is the Overshown of the offense.

Yeah its not a popular opinion but its 100% accurate. I'm a huge Beebe fan, and see reason to be optimistic on his future, but his overall play has been below average for a starting NFL C. I'm still hoping they take a serious look at bumping him to G next season, his skillset just seems to fit so much better there. I'd look at brining back Hoffman or going after a veteran C in free agency.

 

[cowboyed]

Yeah, good call on Turpin. I should have included him. He’s a real weapon in everyone’s eyes except our HC, lol!

Perhaps they are selectively or carefully using him because of his physique. He is small in stature and thin. Just returning and getting tackled or stopped at full speed is brutal enough. Mentally he is as strong and unrelenting as any player can get. Turpin is turbo charged.

 

[baltcowboy]

Yeah its not a popular opinion but its 100% accurate. I'm a huge Beebe fan, and see reason to be optimistic on his future, but his overall play has been below average for a starting NFL C. I'm still hoping they take a serious look at bumping him to G next season, his skillset just seems to fit so much better there. I'd look at brining back Hoffman or going after a veteran C in free agency.

I think he will be ok eventually but some on the board think he was better than Biadasz. Bebe is not.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I think he will be ok eventually but some on the board think he was better than Biadasz. Bebe is not.

Yep its what people do. Its easiest to make the guy walking out the door the fall guy for a units failure to keep optimism high. Biadasz was a solid player and it was very unlikely a rookie would step in and outperform him.

 

[blueblood70]

I think he will be ok eventually but some on the board think he was better than Biadasz. Bebe is not.

I don't know what you think you're watching but BB is better right now he's on the same level as a rookie never playing the position as TB was when he left I'm sorry but I don't know what you're watching I'm watching a better player he blocks better he holds up blocks better he had only a few weird snaps this year literally he's been a very steady rookie his name's hardly ever called in my opinion he is better there's no fall guy here you can have this conversation with some casuals but literally baby is better right now as a rookie than Tyler was as a rookie and that was tyler's spot he came in as a center played center and left with 0 progress the dude was the same as a rookie as he was when he left.. He had no center no low center of gravity the man was bullied so much you all forget I think some people around here thought he was good because he could snap the ball very well but after that he could not block especially in the running game the run game is better without him the problem with the run game is one we didn't draft any runners and two Mike McCarthy didn't know how to commit to the run game 'cause the way rico's running right now is the way it could have been all year long but I don't know where this is coming from my eyes tell me right now this is rookie BB but he will progress and when he's in year 3 he's gonna be light years better than Tyler I'm sorry my eyes tell me he's got a better body he's built more like Frederick he looks more like Frederick Tyler was too light he could not block the big dudes and guess what when you're a center that's where all the big dudes are that's the nose tackles those are the heavy 3 texts and he could not hold up on most plays he handle he was better in a zone blocking where he wasn't straight up on big dudes and that's a problem especially in the run game no one said he sucks but he definitely wasn't worth the second contract..

 

[KJJ]

Turpin has been a positive. Currently the most dangerous returner in the league who’s made plays in the passing game.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I don't know what you think you're watching but BB is better right now he's on the same level as a rookie never playing the position as TB was when he left I'm sorry but I don't know what you're watching I'm watching a better player he blocks better he holds up blocks better he had only a few weird snaps this year literally he's been a very steady rookie his name's hardly ever called in my opinion he is better there's no fall guy here you can have this conversation with some casuals but literally baby is better right now as a rookie than Tyler was as a rookie and that was tyler's spot he came in as a center played center and left with 0 progress the dude was the same as a rookie as he was when he left.. He had no center no low center of gravity the man was bullied so much you all forget I think some people around here thought he was good because he could snap the ball very well but after that he could not block especially in the running game the run game is better without him the problem with the run game is one we didn't draft any runners and two Mike McCarthy didn't know how to commit to the run game 'cause the way rico's running right now is the way it could have been all year long but I don't know where this is coming from my eyes tell me right now this is rookie BB but he will progress and when he's in year 3 he's gonna be light years better than Tyler I'm sorry my eyes tell me he's got a better body he's built more like Frederick he looks more like Frederick Tyler was too light he could not block the big dudes and guess what when you're a center that's where all the big dudes are that's the nose tackles those are the heavy 3 texts and he could not hold up on most plays he handle he was better in a zone blocking where he wasn't straight up on big dudes and that's a problem especially in the run game no one said he sucks but he definitely wasn't worth the second contract..

This is a very entry level evaluation of the players talking about snapping, holding up blocks, and center of gravity. Not that there is anything wrong with those discussion points but I'm not sure how you can call out people as being "casuals" when you give the most surface level evaluation possible.

Center in the NFL is a much more finesse position than you're making it out to be. Beebe is the heaviest Center in the league by a decent margin, most guys are closer to 310lbs not 335 and it shows up in his blocking at the second level. This is an area I thought would get better results as Beebe has gotten more snaps, but its just not the case so far. For non goal line situations runs are about 70% zone blocking schemes than gap or power runs and this includes the Cowboys although they are slightly under leave average. Beebe certainly matches up against certainly players better than Biadasz does and we saw that this past week against NY as he did an excellent job against Lawrence, but you're overly focused on the power aspect of the position which I think is more relevant to Guard. I doubt it happens mid season like this but I'd love to see them swap Beebe and Hoffman the rest of the way.

 

[blueblood70]

Turpin has been a positive. Currently the most dangerous returner in the league who’s made plays in the passing game.

right total 100% consensus that he needs to be on the list and can make McCarthy please take the handcuffs off Turpin the wide receiver let's just let him eat.... Stop all the behind the line of scrimmage stuff with CD lamb give those to Turpin but I wanna see a bunch of crossing routes slants double moves and 9 routes until the end of the year let's see if he can catch let's see if he can do it.....