The politics that go on amaze me

NoLuv4Jerry

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To pretty much read that Greg Ellis was starting over Spencer to protect his feelings

To pretty much read that the defense was constantly being designed to make Roy Williams happy and protect him from being embarassed

To pretty much read that Henry was starting to protect his feelings

To pretty much read the Romo and Garrett could not do their job because TO made it impossible

To pretty much read that Bruce Read was in over his head.

To pretty much read that Jerry made every concession possible to keep Pac Man Jones employed and on the field, and now this guy we just could not live without cannot even get a NFL job.

It just bugs me that as a fan of the Cowboys...with so much at stake...with so few games in a season (unlike in basketball, baseball, or hockey)...with all we had riding on last season...with coming off a 13 win season...with losing at home to the Giants in a game we all thought we gave away...with the longest drought for playoff wins in the franchise history.....it really bugs me that we threw an entire season away trying to pacify these guys.

All you have to do is look at the fact that they are gone...there was not a whole lot of interest in them around the NFL....and the coaches/players/front office people are speaking cryptically enough to justify my assertions.

Jerry is NOT a neophyte owner. Wade is NOTa neophyte head coach. NFL season are too short and precious to make the kinds of mistakes we made last year. I for one am very glad that the circus has ended.

But I cannot help but wonder what could have been as we reflect on the fact that the Arizona Cardinals were in the Super Bowl. As we reflect on the fact that a banged up injured Dallas Cowboys team owned the Super Bowl champ Pittsburgh Steelers for 3.5 quarters last year in their house. Or the fact that a NYG team that we beat twice the year before, how penalties and special teams and stunnigly bad 2 min defense just gave them a playoff game in our house last year.

I just hope the players and coaches that remain from the past 2 years are not too mentally damaged from probably the biggest momentum shift over a 2 year period this franchise has ever seen. It has been written, and I might agree...that last year was one of the most dissappointing season in franchsie history. BUT it is time to move forward...stop talking playoffs...stop talking Super Bowl....win ONE game. Then play the next and try to win that...and so on and so forth. Then we will add them up at the end and hopefully we will have won enough to be a playoff team. And if that happens...hopefully we will win a playoff game. And the core of this team (Ware, Romo, Witten, James, Barber) can finally know what it feels like to win in the postseason and see where it goes from there
 

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That is what you get when you hire Mr Cupcake as your HC and have Jerruh as the GM. Its clear that giving BP so much power just absolutely turned Jerruh's stomach to the point where he will never do it again. And made him pick the anti Tuna as his next coach. Hopefully he has learned that lesson so his next pick will actually have a spine.
 

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Well, every last one of those high maintenance and pride related issues are now gone.
 

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bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that Greg Ellis was starting over Spencer to protect his feelings

To pretty much read that the defense was constantly being designed to make Roy Williams happy and protect him from being embarassed

To pretty much read that Henry was starting to protect his feelings

To pretty much read the Romo and Garrett could not do their job because TO made it impossible

To pretty much read that Bruce Read was in over his head.

To pretty much read that Jerry made every concession possible to keep Pac Man Jones employed and on the field, and now this guy we just could not live without cannot even get a NFL job.

It just bugs me that as a fan of the Cowboys...with so much at stake...with so few games in a season (unlike in basketball, baseball, or hockey)...with all we had riding on last season...with coming off a 13 win season...with losing at home to the Giants in a game we all thought we gave away...with the longest drought for playoff wins in the franchise history.....it really bugs me that we threw an entire season away trying to pacify these guys.

All you have to do is look at the fact that they are gone...there was not a whole lot of interest in them around the NFL....and the coaches/players/front office people are speaking cryptically enough to justify my assertions.

Jerry is NOT a neophyte owner. Wade is NOTa neophyte head coach. NFL season are too short and precious to make the kinds of mistakes we made last year. I for one am very glad that the circus has ended.

But I cannot help but wonder what could have been as we reflect on the fact that the Arizona Cardinals were in the Super Bowl. As we reflect on the fact that a banged up injured Dallas Cowboys team owned the Super Bowl champ Pittsburgh Steelers for 3.5 quarters last year in their house. Or the fact that a NYG team that we beat twice the year before, how penalties and special teams and stunnigly bad 2 min defense just gave them a playoff game in our house last year.

I just hope the players and coaches that remain from the past 2 years are not too mentally damaged from probably the biggest momentum shift over a 2 year period this franchise has ever seen. It has been written, and I might agree...that last year was one of the most dissappointing season in franchsie history. BUT it is time to move forward...stop talking playoffs...stop talking Super Bowl....win ONE game. Then play the next and try to win that...and so on and so forth. Then we will add them up at the end and hopefully we will have won enough to be a playoff team. And if that happens...hopefully we will win a playoff game. And the core of this team (Ware, Romo, Witten, James, Barber) can finally know what it feels like to win in the postseason and see where it goes from there

I don't often agree with the perspective of this poster. And I don't necessarily buy as fact all of the assertions above (he admittedly took some license).

Overall, that's a damn fine post. :bow:
 

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I'm just glad they're all gone, especially TO and Henry. TO was a team killer, and Henry sucked.

Owens is looking old and I guarantee his numbers will show.
 

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bbailey423;2789564 said:
It just bugs me that as a fan of the Cowboys...with so much at stake...with so few games in a season (unlike in basketball, baseball, or hockey)...with all we had riding on last season...with coming off a 13 win season...with losing at home to the Giants in a game we all thought we gave away...with the longest drought for playoff wins in the franchise history.....it really bugs me that we threw an entire season away trying to pacify these guys.
Hell of a way to run a team isn't it?

:mad:
 

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i must say that i agree and im also happy that those guys are gone but i think that those politics take place alot of places not just here.

tuna had his politics too like when he brought in keyshawn and terry glenn and they automatically started over a young up and coming antonio bryant.

keyshawn was old and slow terry still had it but if we would have continued to develop antoino he would be better than he is now. and he had a very good season with spaghetti arm garcia throwing.

jason ferguson was brought here for what?? aaron glenn, and jason fabini oh boy.. and marco rivera was a parcells type of guy old and didnt miss many games in the past so we brought him in and that was all she wrote.

anthony henry was slow when we signed him and always injured that was todd bowles boy from cleveland who was a parcells guy.

bobby carpenter parcells loved his father = 1st round pick.

fasano italian jersey guy = parcells guy

and we actually went into seasons with testaverde as our starter and took forever to bench that bum bledsoe who he refused to make a holder and we probably win that playoff game against the seahawks.

im just saying that politics happen in the game all the time it definatley went on last season big time.

but its like the rest of the world its not about what u know its about who you know.
 

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Aikbach;2789656 said:
Well, every last one of those high maintenance and pride related issues are now gone.

WHAT??? Jerry sold the team??? :eek:
 

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bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read the Romo and Garrett could not do their job because TO made it impossible

That's the thing that gets me. Everyone blames Owens for FORCING the offense to have no flexibility, but Garrett is the OC, he can call whatever plays he wants, and Romo is the QB, he can throw to whoever he wants. Both have infinitely more power over the offense than TO did. If they couldn't overcome TO demanding the ball, then there really isn't much hope for this team. A severe lack of leadership, particularly from Garrett if they or anyone in the organization wants to blame Owens for the failures of the offense.

Personally I just think it's was JG and him running the offense very differently than in '07.
 

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Aikbach;2789656 said:
Well, every last one of those high maintenance and pride related issues are now gone.


There's still the "i-me" fallout 'mimi-me's"...............we'll see where their alliegence lies. I try and remain optomistic but I've read blurbs from some guy's that don't inspire me.
 

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I don't see much "politics" at play in any of the situations you're referencing.

bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that Greg Ellis was starting over Spencer to protect his feelings
Ellis was the better player early on in Spencer's career. It's a no brainer and had nothing to do with Ellis's feelings or politics.

To pretty much read that the defense was constantly being designed to make Roy Williams happy and protect him from being embarassed
You mean not playing deep Cover 2 every single down is considered a bad thing? You design your plays to fit your players' strengths and weaknesses. That's not politics, just good coaching.

To pretty much read that Henry was starting to protect his feelings
Never read this at all.

To pretty much read the Romo and Garrett could not do their job because TO made it impossible
TO had nothing to do with much of Garrett's idiocy last year. Hopefully Garrett can grow as a coordinator regardless of whether TO is on the team.

To pretty much read that Bruce Read was in over his head.
Read was a special teams coach for the preceding 8 years before we hired him, coaching for the Chargers, Giants, and in college. He wasn't "in over his head." He just wasn't good at his job.

To pretty much read that Jerry made every concession possible to keep Pac Man Jones employed and on the field, and now this guy we just could not live without cannot even get a NFL job.
Low-risk, high-reward situation. I'd do the same thing 1000 times over.
 

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bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that Greg Ellis was starting over Spencer to protect his feelings

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.

bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that the defense was constantly being designed to make Roy Williams happy and protect him from being embarassed

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.

bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that Henry was starting to protect his feelings

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read the Romo and Garrett could not do their job because TO made it impossible

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that Bruce Read was in over his head.

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
To pretty much read that Jerry made every concession possible to keep Pac Man Jones employed and on the field, and now this guy we just could not live without cannot even get a NFL job.

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.

Keep tryin' to "drive right thru the drink" instead of a guaranteed chipshot jed. H'yuck, they'll make more golf balls.

bbailey423;2789564 said:
It just bugs me that as a fan of the Cowboys...with so much at stake...with so few games in a season (unlike in basketball, baseball, or hockey)...with all we had riding on last season...with coming off a 13 win season...with losing at home to the Giants in a game we all thought we gave away...with the longest drought for playoff wins in the franchise history.....it really bugs me that we threw an entire season away trying to pacify these guys.

Today's posting was brought to you by Jerry Jones.

He seriously thought that bringing in Roy Williams from Detroit, MID SEASON, would fix it all. Only adding fuel to the delicate ego of #81. Adam was a real brainstorm. Tell me Garrett blew enough smoke up our GM's butt to make him stay with Brad Johnson. C'mon. ANY GM worth his salt could've seen through that one. I bought into Brad. Then again, I most certainly aren't around the league enough nor have I witnessed his practice sessions.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
All you have to do is look at the fact that they are gone...there was not a whole lot of interest in them around the NFL....and the coaches/players/front office people are speaking cryptically enough to justify my assertions.

Wade is still here, which in jeds' eyes, still allow's jed to "run" the team (into the ground) virtually unopposed. Justification is well past used up. It's into As the World Turns. Cue the "Dallas" theme...........



bbailey423;2789564 said:
Jerry is NOT a neophyte owner. Wade is NOTa neophyte head coach. NFL season are too short and precious to make the kinds of mistakes we made last year.

Last year? 14 of 'em. "Short" is not operative for the Dallas Cowboys.

Every season has mistakes. Every player, every scheme, every game plan, opposition and injuries, not with-standing. We are, however, guaranteed to to make them bigger and better than most. Jerry style.




bbailey423;2789564 said:
I for one am very glad that the circus has ended.

Jerry will continue to be the first clown out of the car, center stage. Embrace that.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
But I cannot help but wonder what could have been as we reflect on the fact that the Arizona Cardinals were in the Super Bowl. As we reflect on the fact that a banged up injured Dallas Cowboys team owned the Super Bowl champ Pittsburgh Steelers for 3.5 quarters last year in their house. Or the fact that a NYG team that we beat twice the year before, how penalties and special teams and stunnigly bad 2 min defense just gave them a playoff game in our house last year.

It's ok. Jerry will have individual player meetings, at his house, and figure it all out. He'll also insist that HE give the half-time pep talks to further undermine any resemblance of a coach.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
I just hope the players and coaches that remain from the past 2 years are not too mentally damaged from probably the biggest momentum shift over a 2 year period this franchise has ever seen. It has been written, and I might agree...that last year was one of the most dissappointing season in franchsie history.

The Little Ball'o Hate nailed last year's entire season early in TC with the 'camp cupcake' moniker. She was dead nuts on. We saw talent out the ying-yang and assumed the rest. We saw jed distracted with a brand new toy now called Cowboy's Stadium. Pick your passion, jed. Financial success via the horse and pony show or the real deal which got you where you are today. The Dallas Cowboys. The athletes. The coaches and the loyal you've thrust to the back seat with little to no regard.


bbailey423;2789564 said:
BUT it is time to move forward...stop talking playoffs...stop talking Super Bowl....win ONE game. Then play the next and try to win that...and so on and so forth. Then we will add them up at the end and hopefully we will have won enough to be a playoff team. And if that happens...hopefully we will win a playoff game. And the core of this team (Ware, Romo, Witten, James, Barber) can finally know what it feels like to win in the postseason and see where it goes from there

A wing and a prayer, brother. Hope? Break out your mojo-beads, chickens feet and anti-hex gourd. You're gonna need them. Sad, but that's what we've got.
 

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My gosh, what could have been.

Let's talk about what could have been.

After spotting the 49ers 21 points, Dallas was within 10 and driving late in the fourth quarter at Candlestick.

A deep pass to Irvin was ruled as incomplete. The video replay of the pass on TV showed without a dount that Deion had Irvin's arm and pulled it away from the ball before the ball arrived.

It should have been first and goal at the 4-yard line.

What could have been was Dallas needing 3 to tie the game with 6 minutes left and a 9er team questioning if they can actually beat this Cowboy team.

Crying over last year is ridiculous considering everything involved.

Because without Kosier, Romo, Barber, Jones and RW11 with no chemistry, what could have been is moot. And much less significat than a non-call by the refs in a game when we were the best team in the league.
 

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theogt;2789963 said:
I don't see much "politics" at play in any of the situations you're referencing.

Ellis was the better player early on in Spencer's career. It's a no brainer and had nothing to do with Ellis's feelings or politics.

You mean not playing deep Cover 2 every single down is considered a bad thing? You design your plays to fit your players' strengths and weaknesses. That's not politics, just good coaching.

Never read this at all.

TO had nothing to do with much of Garrett's idiocy last year. Hopefully Garrett can grow as a coordinator regardless of whether TO is on the team.

Read was a special teams coach for the preceding 8 years before we hired him, coaching for the Chargers, Giants, and in college. He wasn't "in over his head." He just wasn't good at his job.

Low-risk, high-reward situation. I'd do the same thing 1000 times over.
Jerry, is that you?
 
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