The problem that will not be solved

[CouchCoach]

I keep seeing either the owner steps down as GM or the new HC is given complete autonomy over everything from the locker room to the field. Both of these are wonderful ideas, probable solutions but both are totally unreasonable and will not happen. I will be shocked if the new HC is allowed to hire his own staff.

To attempt to solve a problem, it must first be recognized and then a willingness to address and solve the problem enacted. The first might be possible but the second is impossible because that would involve admitting failure and incompetence. And if the owner were to step aside, that would be for his son, equally as incompetent, to step in.

So, by asserting these two ideas, we are only wasting our time because those are two things that will not happen so we need to think of the next best thing.

I think Garrett's greatest contribution to the betterment of the Cowboys is that he's used his influence with the owner in the selection of players and positions and I believe he's seen as the conduit to the owner and his son from others on the team. He's the messenger.

As fans, we need a HC that is better on the sideline with strategy and tactics but influential with the Joneses when it comes to decisions regarding players and the type systems used to implement those players.

One thing we know, the Joneses are follow the ball fans and love their offensive stars so a counter balance to that is needed with a HC that is either from the D side or balanced and aware that ST are not an afterthought. I do not think Riley or Roman fit that.

We need a guy that can "stand up" to the Joneses but with diplomacy and understanding of the fragile egos he's dealing with and remember Parcells' advice when dealing with it. Don't let the owner think all of the GM's ideas are good. Think 'the owner comes first' is the mantra and he can get some things done.

This man must be equally adept at handling the FO and the team and retain respect from both and that is a tall order because in order to accomplish that, he must subrogate his own ego with the former but strengthen that with the latter.

So, who is that guy? Who can best fit his ego in with the Joneses and the team? Who can realize he can't solve the problem; he has to work with the problem in order to work around the problem?

We can begin by recognizing our real problem isn't getting resolved anytime soon. We need the guy to work around our problem and we've had that guy except on the sideline during games.

 

[Jake]

What kind of championship team is a coach going to build when priority one is making sure the owner/GM/President doesn't get his feelings hurt?

 

[Captain43Crash]

I think we need a Head Coach with Head Coaching experience and life experience. The coach should be confident, hard working, demand accountability, and expect everyone in the organization to their job, well. It can possibly be a college coach. My choices.
1. Belicheat
2. Sean Payton
3. Urban Meyer

 

[Bullflop]

As the former assistant coach for the Saints since 2016, I think Dan Campbell would most likely be a good choice for in-game decisions but I'm not sure he's prone to present his ideas in such a way as to appeal to Jerry's sensitive ego. This may or may not be the case. If anyone here is fairly familiar with his personal approach, I'd appreciate their input.

 

[CouchCoach]

What kind of championship team is a coach going to build when priority one is making sure the owner/GM/President doesn't get his feelings hurt?

Well, since that is our only hope as fans, we better hope there is one. I didn't say it was easy, it's going to be difficult.

 

[catiii]

I think we need a Head Coach with Head Coaching experience and life experience. The coach should be confident, hard working, demand accountability, and expect everyone in the organization to their job, well. It can possibly be a college coach. My choices.
1. Belicheat
2. Sean Payton
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Fixed it for ya
(I'm thinking 3 will not only be divisive but also will not be the second coming of Jimmy Johnson.)

 

[visionary]

I keep seeing either the owner steps down as GM or the new HC is given complete autonomy over everything from the locker room to the field. Both of these are wonderful ideas, probable solutions but both are totally unreasonable and will not happen. I will be shocked if the new HC is allowed to hire his own staff.

To attempt to solve a problem, it must first be recognized and then a willingness to address and solve the problem enacted. The first might be possible but the second is impossible because that would involve admitting failure and incompetence. And if the owner were to step aside, that would be for his son, equally as incompetent, to step in.

So, by asserting these two ideas, we are only wasting our time because those are two things that will not happen so we need to think of the next best thing.

I think Garrett's greatest contribution to the betterment of the Cowboys is that he's used his influence with the owner in the selection of players and positions and I believe he's seen as the conduit to the owner and his son from others on the team. He's the messenger.

As fans, we need a HC that is better on the sideline with strategy and tactics but influential with the Joneses when it comes to decisions regarding players and the type systems used to implement those players.

One thing we know, the Joneses are follow the ball fans and love their offensive stars so a counter balance to that is needed with a HC that is either from the D side or balanced and aware that ST are not an afterthought. I do not think Riley or Roman fit that.

We need a guy that can "stand up" to the Joneses but with diplomacy and understanding of the fragile egos he's dealing with and remember Parcells' advice when dealing with it. Don't let the owner think all of the GM's ideas are good. Think 'the owner comes first' is the mantra and he can get some things done.

This man must be equally adept at handling the FO and the team and retain respect from both and that is a tall order because in order to accomplish that, he must subrogate his own ego with the former but strengthen that with the latter.

So, who is that guy? Who can best fit his ego in with the Joneses and the team? Who can realize he can't solve the problem; he has to work with the problem in order to work around the problem?

We can begin by recognizing our real problem isn't getting resolved anytime soon. We need the guy to work around our problem and we've had that guy except on the sideline during games.

I’ll never understand how smart intelligent people just delude themselves

#1: Garrett has NO positive contribution. He is total trash who has wasted 10 years of this fan bases lives and the careers of multiple players just make money

#2: change will not cone by appeasing Jerry. This franchise (under Jerry) has had only 2 tines when they have actually been good and those have been under HCs who stood up to Jerry and not ones who appeased him. We need a strong HC who will come here with real authority and nit another spineless moron like Garrett

 

[CouchCoach]

I think we need a Head Coach with Head Coaching experience and life experience. The coach should be confident, hard working, demand accountability, and expect everyone in the organization to their job, well. It can possibly be a college coach. My choices.
1. Belicheat
2. Sean Payton
3. Urban Meyer

Think any of those 3 could deal with the Joneses? The first two have been calling their own shots and are comfortable, financially and ego wise, where they are. Are that many here not aware of Meyer's problems with authority at FL and OSU? That's why he left both but OSU still retains him on a consultancy basis.

Don't know how Kraft and Belichick are and this latest video venture might have put a strain on that relationship but do we think he was unaware of the cheating incidents? Do fans really want a guy like that? Want to win that badly?

 

[ConstantReboot]

The reason why Garrett was given the head coach job was because Jerry knows that he is a complete pushover. He doesn't talk back or answer back to his master. It's all "yes, Jerry, anything for you, Jerry," and nothing else matters.

We all know Jerry is incompetent. But the head of the incompetence is Garrett. Cut off the head of the incompetence, and you will start to breath back life into this team.

 

[CouchCoach]

I’ll never understand how smart intelligent people just delude themselves

#1: Garrett has NO positive contribution. He is total trash who has wasted 10 years of this fan bases lives and the careers of multiple players just make money

#2: change will not cone by appeasing Jerry. This franchise (under Jerry) has had only 2 tines when they have actually been good and those have been under HCs who stood up to Jerry and not ones who appeased him. We need a strong HC who will come here with real authority and nit another spineless moron like Garrett

What a nice compliment, left-handed, but nice just the same.

#1, I disagree, I think he's been that voice in Booger's other ear that the son needed . I do think he's been influential with the positions selected. I do not think he's a good HC, I wasn't sold on him as the OC....and neither was Parcells.

#2, there is no standing up to the owner and no HC in his right mind is even going to approach that. Johnson and Parcells were selected out of need, get in the black and get that stadium. What does Booger need now? His team is 7-8 and still the most profitable and watched one in the NFL. The HC is a minor annoyance in his world and he's more concerned with being comfortable with his HC than what the man accomplishes.

vissy, the owner of this team sends a clear and loud message to any HC that might be interested. You might be the HC but this team belongs to me. And he's insistent on furthering that message every day. He is more "socks to jocks" than when he came in as the GM. He's gotten worse.

The mistake we make is thinking this is like any other team, there has never been another one like this. Not the Raiders or Yankees even approached this level. The owner has established himself as the face of the franchise on purpose and he will not tolerate any shade on his face.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

The first 2 for sure is not coming here.

 

[CouchCoach]

The reason why Garrett was given the head coach job was because Jerry knows that he is a complete pushover. He doesn't talk back or answer back to his master. It's all "yes, Jerry, anything for you, Jerry," and nothing else matters.

We all know Jerry is incompetent. But the head of the incompetence is Garrett. Cut off the head of the incompetence, and you will start to breath back life into this team.

Do you think Booger thinks it needs life breathed back into it? It is still the ratings and revenue champ and that is "life" to him.

 

[817Gill]

Well, since that is our only hope as fans, we better hope there is one. I didn't say it was easy, it's going to be difficult.

I think especially with the SJ and Will McClay era that we’ve seen this team be able to build personnel at a level good enough to compete with the leagues best. That’s all you can ask for from a GM.

Yes it’s hard to work around the Joneses, but it’s not like they have been putting crap personnel on the field for JG. If Garrett had above average in game decision making, better game management, and the ability to adjust and correct (all things that a good coach should be able to do), then this this team goes much farther than it has.


For all the complaining about the Joneses, Stephen has provided enough talent to at least be able to line-up against anyone and not be outmatched. I think a good HC goes a lot farther for this team than a new GM does.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Do you think Booger thinks it needs life breathed back into it? It is still the ratings and revenue champ and that is "life" to him.

He can make double that amount if he wins the Superbowl. As whatever story has been said about Jerry, he wants to win before he makes his maker.

 

[CouchCoach]

The first 2 for sure is not coming here.

I agree, they're too high profile, if either is successful they will get all the credit and Booger is back to getting credit for hiring the right guy. That would be enough for me since I see that as the primary job of the GM. Primary job of the owner is to hire the right GM. This problem started at the top.

We do have one hope. In the past, it's all been about anyone bot the real problem with the media but that changed during this season. I wonder if Booger is feeling a little exposed and that could be the catalyst for real change. But I gotta see that to believe it. And I don't believe it if he says it, need to see proof. He eventually sideswiped Parcells with Owens so any HC is going to have to play Whack A Mole with Booger. When he doesn't see or hear him is when he'll have to worry.

 

[visionary]

The reason why Garrett was given the head coach job was because Jerry knows that he is a complete pushover. He doesn't talk back or answer back to his master. It's all "yes, Jerry, anything for you, Jerry," and nothing else matters.

We all know Jerry is incompetent. But the head of the incompetence is Garrett. Cut off the head of the incompetence, and you will start to breath back life into this team.

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Jason Bend Over Garrett

 

[CouchCoach]

He can make double that amount if he wins the Superbowl. As whatever story has been said about Jerry, he wants to win before he makes his maker.

No, he cannot make double that amount. You do realize they all share in the playoff picture? Of all the owners, except maybe Kraft, he's one that stands to makle the least, financially, for another ring.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

The coach is hired to coach the team and not put them at a disadvantage with stupid and bad situation awareness. Sure Jerry and Stephen have their shows and are always seeking a mic, but the coach is there to coach the team. The disaster we have now is because the incompetency of the coaching staff and Jerry refusing to fire Garrett for his incompetency. Garrett has and still has the personnel to win a championship. He's not exactly coaching a pop warner team, although his offense might me pop warner. Garrett's problem is that he always thinks he's the smartest person in the room. He is stubborn with his coaching refusing to change. He never schemes, on either side of the ball, and says that simpler is better because the players won't have to be thinking about their assignments. Every year you can attribute at least 2 losses to something stupid Garrett will do. None of that is Jerry's fault, other than wasting so many years keeping Garrett here.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

As the former assistant coach for the Saints since 2016, I think Dan Campbell would most likely be a good choice for in-game decisions but I'm not sure he's prone to present his ideas in such a way as to appeal to Jerry's sensitive ego. This may or may not be the case. If anyone here is fairly familiar with his personal approach, I'd appreciate their input.

Jerry needs to move away from hiring anyone with a past with the Cowboys, or nothing will change.

 

[CouchCoach]

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Jason Bend Over Garrett

And do we think the next HC is going to be an "in your face" HC? You think Booger is the type guy for that? LMAO, Kiffin thought that about Crazy Al too. Do you think there wasn't some give from Madden and Flores in getting along with Davis? You guys set this up as Garrett was already bent over, don't think so. I do think the personal relationship between the Garrett's and Joneses is a big problem.

I've worked for quite a few bosses and my first job was to figure out just how much leeway I had and what type of cat I was dealing with before I proceeded. If I was wrong, it wouldn;t last and it wouldn't be the boss leaving.

Man, you act as if any HC is going to just ride in and put Booger & Son in their place, talk about delusions. There is no such thing as the Cowboys way, it is the Joneses way. And that is the usual with a family ruin business.