The QB situation and a new HC

[CouchCoach]

One thing we haven't discussed that I would bet will be discussed by any HC candidates is the QB and the QB situation with regards to the contract and future.

We watch Prescott play but not with a coach's eye, the critical eye. We don't even know if Garrett was ever on board with Prescott as the QB1. Or that another coach would want him or prefer another.

Few HC candidates come into a situation like this one, a QB out of contract so they could have input in that area as to either signing him or tagging him and drafting another.

Say this is Lincoln Riley, where do you think Jalen Hurts is going in the draft? Think they'd have to give up a lot of collateral to get him? Since Riley is a college QB guru, think he would be willing to settle for Prescott as his guy? If he did, that would say a hell of a lot about Prescott and he wouldn't be settling. And if you haven't followed OU, Riley did help Hurts with his accuracy, he is not the same QB he was at Bama.

The team is in a great position to talk QB's with any candidate because they're not locked in and the fact that Booger couldn't sign him and he seems to have regressed a little, he might be easy to talk into a tag and drafting a QB.

And here again, not a Prescott thread, it's a new HC and QB thread. But I realize there will be some Prescott defense as there is in every thread.

But please, none of that leading the league in passing. His winning record of 67% carried a hell of a lot more weight than empty passing yards.

The real question now is are the Joneses sitting firmly on the Prescott wagon as they were earlier in the season? Are they open to a discussion with a candidate about other options? Or are they looking to get a HC that's on the Prescott wagon with them?

 

[cityochamps]

Good point, we at least need to bring someone in to challenge Dak

 

[erod]

This is critical.

What does each coaching candidate think of Dak? Will he be honest?

Don't just hire a yes man.

 

[BoysForLife]

One thing we haven't discussed that I would bet will be discussed by any HC candidates is the QB and the QB situation with regards to the contract and future.

We watch Prescott play but not with a coach's eye, the critical eye. We don't even know if Garrett was ever on board with Prescott as the QB1. Or that another coach would want him or prefer another.

Few HC candidates come into a situation like this one, a QB out of contract so they could have input in that area as to either signing him or tagging him and drafting another.

Say this is Lincoln Riley, where do you think Jalen Hurts is going in the draft? Think they'd have to give up a lot of collateral to get him? Since Riley is a college QB guru, think he would be willing to settle for Prescott as his guy? If he did, that would say a hell of a lot about Prescott and he wouldn't be settling. And if you haven't followed OU, Riley did help Hurts with his accuracy, he is not the same QB he was at Bama.

The team is in a great position to talk QB's with any candidate because they're not locked in and the fact that Booger couldn't sign him and he seems to have regressed a little, he might be easy to talk into a tag and drafting a QB.

And here again, not a Prescott thread, it's a new HC and QB thread. But I realize there will be some Prescott defense as there is in every thread.

But please, none of that leading the league in passing. His winning record of 67% carried a hell of a lot more weight than empty passing yards.

The real question now is are the Joneses sitting firmly on the Prescott wagon as they were earlier in the season? Are they open to a discussion with a candidate about other options? Or are they looking to get a HC that's on the Prescott wagon with them?

Regarding the red, you're right, there are always varying versions of what "really went down" but I'll believe without shadow of doubt until the day I die, that Garrett was the guy who wanted Prescott in 2016. Zero doubt in my mind. That was one time, in his measly career, that JG stood up to Jerry and insisted on something being done his way. Ironically, it's a key reason he's about to be fired. But anyways, I digress. That was JG's call. Jerry to me was pretty clear that Romo was the guy he wanted at that time. He should have stood his ground.

Regarding the blue--now, in this day and age, Jerry has done an about face and seems to think Dak is "what we need".
My guess is, Jerry will insist that any coach come in and build around him. And again, Jerry will be making the wrong call at the wrong time.

I am positive I'm right on the red.
I hope I'm wrong on my analysis of the blue. Time will tell

that's why Urban Meyer or to a lesser degree Riley is the only reasonable choice.
Meyer won a national title with Cardale freakin Jones. And Riley has made Jalen Hurts look like a legitimate QB after he was nothing more than a glorified RB at Bama.

if I'm right and Jerry's insisting on going with Dak, then we need a guy that can polish that turd effectively. We need a guy who can make Dak look like a legitimate top tier QB. That's a tall challenge.

Meyer and Riley are the only 2 that make sense.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

If we bring in Riley, I believe he can elevate Dak, or at least make the offense more suitable for him. He's a QB guru. However, I wouldn't rule it out if he wanted to bring in Hurts if we could get him or another QB.

End of the day, let the HC decide.

 

[BoysForLife]

This is critical.

What does each coaching candidate think of Dak? Will he be honest?

Don't just hire a yes man.

I wish you were right but Jerry will insist that someone come in and build around Dak regardless of what they think of him.
And he'll dangle enough money in front of them to get someone to bite.

Sad, but true.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Jerry is behind Garrett 100% ...

If we make the playoffs , JG will get an extension .

 

[LandryFan]

One thing we haven't discussed that I would bet will be discussed by any HC candidates is the QB and the QB situation with regards to the contract and future.

We watch Prescott play but not with a coach's eye, the critical eye. We don't even know if Garrett was ever on board with Prescott as the QB1. Or that another coach would want him or prefer another.

Few HC candidates come into a situation like this one, a QB out of contract so they could have input in that area as to either signing him or tagging him and drafting another.

Say this is Lincoln Riley, where do you think Jalen Hurts is going in the draft? Think they'd have to give up a lot of collateral to get him? Since Riley is a college QB guru, think he would be willing to settle for Prescott as his guy? If he did, that would say a hell of a lot about Prescott and he wouldn't be settling. And if you haven't followed OU, Riley did help Hurts with his accuracy, he is not the same QB he was at Bama.

The team is in a great position to talk QB's with any candidate because they're not locked in and the fact that Booger couldn't sign him and he seems to have regressed a little, he might be easy to talk into a tag and drafting a QB.

And here again, not a Prescott thread, it's a new HC and QB thread. But I realize there will be some Prescott defense as there is in every thread.

But please, none of that leading the league in passing. His winning record of 67% carried a hell of a lot more weight than empty passing yards.

The real question now is are the Joneses sitting firmly on the Prescott wagon as they were earlier in the season? Are they open to a discussion with a candidate about other options? Or are they looking to get a HC that's on the Prescott wagon with them?

Just a SWAG here, but my guess is that JJ's locked in on Dak and the new HC will have to be, as well.

 

[conner01]

If we bring in Riley, I believe he can elevate Dak, or at least make the offense more suitable for him. He's a QB guru. However, I wouldn't rule it out if he wanted to bring in Hurts if we could get him or another QB.

End of the day, let the HC decide.

I don’t see walking away from a solid QB
Hire a coach who can use his skills to better his game

 

[erod]

I wish you were right but Jerry will insist that someone come in and build around Dak regardless of what they think of him.
And he'll dangle enough money in front of them to get someone to bite.

Sad, but true.

Then our fate is already sealed.

And so is Jerry''s.

I think he senses this, which is why he's freaking out.

 

[BoysForLife]

Then our fate is already sealed.

And so is Jerry''s.

I think he senses this, which is why he's freaking out.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[CouchCoach]

This is critical.

What does each coaching candidate think of Dak? Will he be honest?

Don't just hire a yes man.

That's the beauty of this, they do not have to be unless the Joneses have decided he's the guy. It also depends on the candidate, Riley, going to be 80% about the QB and D coaching. And his remarkable track record with QB's may be the reason he's the frontrunner. I'd bet that the subject of Prescott has already come up in some discussions they've had off the record.

I do know that Hurts became a more accurate passer at OU than he was at Bama so Riley may think he can take him to Tier 1. I also wonder if something is wrong with Prescott that we don't know about. Some of those throws are awful, worse than any other time with the team. Then he'll make some wow throw.

Looks like to me they have to decide if they want Prescott going forward with what they're going to have to pay first. Then that dictates whet they do with a HC. Go the AZ route and get one just for your QB. However, if you've watched Murray play, little bit o difference between him and Prescott. And Jalen Hurts is a better run QB than Prescott.

 

[Xeven]

One thing we haven't discussed that I would bet will be discussed by any HC candidates is the QB and the QB situation with regards to the contract and future.

We watch Prescott play but not with a coach's eye, the critical eye. We don't even know if Garrett was ever on board with Prescott as the QB1. Or that another coach would want him or prefer another.

Few HC candidates come into a situation like this one, a QB out of contract so they could have input in that area as to either signing him or tagging him and drafting another.

Say this is Lincoln Riley, where do you think Jalen Hurts is going in the draft? Think they'd have to give up a lot of collateral to get him? Since Riley is a college QB guru, think he would be willing to settle for Prescott as his guy? If he did, that would say a hell of a lot about Prescott and he wouldn't be settling. And if you haven't followed OU, Riley did help Hurts with his accuracy, he is not the same QB he was at Bama.

The team is in a great position to talk QB's with any candidate because they're not locked in and the fact that Booger couldn't sign him and he seems to have regressed a little, he might be easy to talk into a tag and drafting a QB.

And here again, not a Prescott thread, it's a new HC and QB thread. But I realize there will be some Prescott defense as there is in every thread.

But please, none of that leading the league in passing. His winning record of 67% carried a hell of a lot more weight than empty passing yards.

The real question now is are the Joneses sitting firmly on the Prescott wagon as they were earlier in the season? Are they open to a discussion with a candidate about other options? Or are they looking to get a HC that's on the Prescott wagon with them?

Dak should go replace Brady under Belichek. His career will be garbage under Jerry/Garret.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

I don't see Garrett walking away anytime soon .

Jerry is ferociously defending Garrett, everywhere ...

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Dak should go replace Brady under Belichek. His career will be garbage under Jerry/Garret.

He isn't signed yet, & Belichek loves him... it might happen .

 

[Gaede]

Jerry is in the third stage of grief.

Anger and bargaining. Last week he was suffering pain and guilt.

Once this cycle is over, he will be on to depression, then optimism, and eventually, acceptance

 

[baltcowboy]

Dak is a quality quarterback. One of the best bargains in league history. I would move on because I would not pay 30+ million to any quarterback except Russ, Rodgers and Mahomes. We could use that money to improve defense, special teams and depth. I am in favor of first round rookie quarterback on a 5 year locked in contract. Let the coach develop a new guy.

 

[Bigdog]

A friend of mine told me this that may make sense. He said the Cowboys should tag Dak and then draft Tua if he falls to them and his injury is not career ending. Let Tua rehab and get use to NFL life.

 

[erod]

That's the beauty of this, they do not have to be unless the Joneses have decided he's the guy. It also depends on the candidate, Riley, going to be 80% about the QB and D coaching. And his remarkable track record with QB's may be the reason he's the frontrunner. I'd bet that the subject of Prescott has already come up in some discussions they've had off the record.

I do know that Hurts became a more accurate passer at OU than he was at Bama so Riley may think he can take him to Tier 1. I also wonder if something is wrong with Prescott that we don't know about. Some of those throws are awful, worse than any other time with the team. Then he'll make some wow throw.

Looks like to me they have to decide if they want Prescott going forward with what they're going to have to pay first. Then that dictates whet they do with a HC. Go the AZ route and get one just for your QB. However, if you've watched Murray play, little bit o difference between him and Prescott. And Jalen Hurts is a better run QB than Prescott.

I'm a huge OU fan.

I watched Riley take three transfers and turn them into two Heisman winners, two first overall picks, and a legit passer out of a guy who was awful at Alabamab at throwing the football.

If Riley can't fix Dak, it can't be done.

If they sign Dak, there is only one candidate for the job.

Urban Meyer runs the RPO. His quarterbacks run the football. They aren't good passers. Terrible idea.

 

[CouchCoach]

Regarding the red, you're right, there are always varying versions of what "really went down" but I'll believe without shadow of doubt until the day I die, that Garrett was the guy who wanted Prescott in 2016. Zero doubt in my mind. That was one time, in his measly career, that JG stood up to Jerry and insisted on something being done his way. Ironically, it's a key reason he's about to be fired. But anyways, I digress. That was JG's call. Jerry to me was pretty clear that Romo was the guy he wanted at that time. He should have stood his ground.

Regarding the blue--now, in this day and age, Jerry has done an about face and seems to think Dak is "what we need".
My guess is, Jerry will insist that any coach come in and build around him. And again, Jerry will be making the wrong call at the wrong time.

I am positive I'm right on the red.
I hope I'm wrong on my analysis of the blue. Time will tell

that's why Urban Meyer or to a lesser degree Riley is the only reasonable choice.
Meyer won a national title with Cardale freakin Jones. And Riley has made Jalen Hurts look like a legitimate QB after he was nothing more than a glorified RB at Bama.

if I'm right and Jerry's insisting on going with Dak, then we need a guy that can polish that turd effectively. We need a guy who can make Dak look like a legitimate top tier QB. That's a tall challenge.

Meyer and Riley are the only 2 that make sense.

According to the story at that time, Wade Wilson was the Prescott fan. If Garrett had been that, why try and trade up for Lynch and plan on taking Cook but OAK beat them to it? I don't agree on Garrett being the Dak guy, he might have been the one to send Booger back into the 1st for Lynch. Booger was still regretting not matching DEN's offer the next day of the draft. I do not even think he was in favor of Dak over Romo when he was healthy. I think the riff between the two of them was because he didn't fight hard enough for Romo when that was his first choice.

Boys, I don't know what makes sense about the HC because I don't know how much power he will have. I would really prefer a D coach as HC and get a good OC and I am OK with letting Moore have another year as OC.

One thing about it. Any candidate will know so goes their QB, so goes their career and they will never have a better time to discuss this than in the interview. If I am a candidate and keeping this QB as my guy is a requirement, then I'd better be damned sure he's my guy.

They also have Cooper, Jones, Bennett and Quinn up to bring into the discussion as well. As a HC, he's got to look at this is the Cowboys team right now but not my team. And if I am that candidate, I am bringing up the elephant in the corner. Every player they gave a nice contract to regressed, Elliott, Lawrence and Smith and about that TE? Think he might like to consider coaching TE's?