The "Moose" talks cowboys on dfw sports beat

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tonight they had the moose loose on dfw sports beat, talking cowboys;

talked about team chemistry and the intangibles, how much more important that is, then just trying to buy a team like snyder did with Commanders a few years ago. the moose even said, just go back and look at the raiders 92 team, they were loaded with talent even more than cowboys, but they didnt jell.

said the releasing on t o is so much important along with adam jones etc, that this team is still talented to win.

another thing the moose pointed to which was very important is the penalities. When your 3rd and 15 its hard to overcome past 3rd and 7. Because teams are loaded now on defense and just hard to get past that.

said that the cowboys should be able to load up just like the giants did with their earth wind and fire. That for all of the running backs dont be consumed by your stats or how many carries you get but do it for the team to win.

said also that if you look at the cowboys with their running when the moose ran, when teams stacked the line to stop the run, then aikman would kill you with passes to irvin, novachek, etc, thats very important to have balance.

thats kinda it, wanted to give you all a chance to listen to either dc or theebs hopefully posting the podcast first, was very good read to me

also brady said that they will try to have 2 cowboys on monday, something like that, joe
 

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cowboyjoe;2807119 said:
tonight they had the moose loose on dfw sports beat, talking cowboys;

talked about team chemistry and the intangibles, how much more important that is, then just trying to buy a team like snyder did with Commanders a few years ago. the moose even said, just go back and look at the raiders 92 team, they were loaded with talent even more than cowboys, but they didnt jell.

said the releasing on t o is so much important along with adam jones etc, that this team is still talented to win.

another thing the moose pointed to which was very important is the penalities. When your 3rd and 15 its hard to overcome past 3rd and 7. Because teams are loaded now on defense and just hard to get past that.

said that the cowboys should be able to load up just like the giants did with their earth wind and fire. That for all of the running backs dont be consumed by your stats or how many carries you get but do it for the team to win.

said also that if you look at the cowboys with their running when the moose ran, when teams stacked the line to stop the run, then aikman would kill you with passes to irvin, novachek, etc, thats very important to have balance.

thats kinda it, wanted to give you all a chance to listen to either dc or theebs hopefully posting the podcast first, was very good read to me

also brady said that they will try to have 2 cowboys on monday, something like that, joe

This is the most important part of the entire interview. IF the O-line proves that they can consistently manhandle the opposition, then people will HAVE TO stack the box to stop the run. People can hate on Roy Williams all they want, but he, Witten, and Austin/Crayton vs. single coverage? I like those odds. And, I would bet, so does Romo.
 

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JeffInDC;2807561 said:
This is the most important part of the entire interview. IF the O-line proves that they can consistently manhandle the opposition, then people will HAVE TO stack the box to stop the run. People can hate on Roy Williams all they want, but he, Witten, and Austin/Crayton vs. single coverage? I like those odds. And, I would bet, so does Romo.
I would agree with you, but without Terrell Owens, it doesn't matter whether our offensive line will even destroy defensive fronts each week. Teams will still stack the box and double both Jason Witten and Roy Williams and wedgy Rowdy on every offensive down.

/enormously thick sarcasm off

PS I do agree with you :)
 

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Football really is not as complicated as everyone wants to make it. Everything depends on your O-Line. If your O-line can create holes for the running game, it creates second and third and short, which are easier to convert. It causes defenses to stack the box making it easier to pass, especially if that offensive line can give the necessary protection. The O-line can make an average NFL QB look great, or make him look lost if the O-line cannot protect.

When I hear people post their concerns about Romo or our lack of receiving depth that is not what concerns me. I know Romo can play at the highest level possible. I know that Roy Williams and Witten can play at a Pro Bowl level. Crayton is servicable and Austin a rising talent.

What I don't know is if our offensive line is championship caliber. I don't know if Adams will be in shape. I don't know if Kosier's foot will ever heal. I don't which Holland will show up this season and if he can start if Kosier cannot. I don't want to watch another Cowboys game with Proctor allowing our entire offense to get blown up.

That's why while a lot of posters are mulling over the list of available FA WR's I find myself looking for another LG and LT.
 

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another thing the moose pointed to which was very important is the penalities. When your 3rd and 15 its hard to overcome past 3rd and 7. Because teams are loaded now on defense and just hard to get past that.

I have been harping on this quite a bit. When defense knows you are looking at 2nd or 3rd in long it is not that hard to defend they know what you will be doing. Dallas has to cut down on penalties these are major drive killers that this team or any team can't deal with
 

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Doomsday101;2807734 said:
another thing the moose pointed to which was very important is the penalities. When your 3rd and 15 its hard to overcome past 3rd and 7. Because teams are loaded now on defense and just hard to get past that.

I have been harping on this quite a bit. When defense knows you are looking at 2nd or 3rd in long it is not that hard to defend they know what you will be doing. Dallas has to cut down on penalties these are major drive killers that this team or any team can't deal with

yep and that goes back to the head coach making players accountable;
 

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cowboyjoe;2807754 said:
yep and that goes back to the head coach making players accountable;

It also comes back to players holding themselves accountable and focusing on the job at hand. They know the snap count the defense doesn't. I agree coaches need to come down on a player who is committing too many penalties but players also have an obligation to know their job and focus on what they are doing. I played high school and college ball and never needed a coach to tell me I just screw up I knew that and I knew I was the only one who could control it. Why should I not expect as much from a pro?
 

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Its pretty simple.....

The game is won in the trenches.....

The OL must earn its money.....as a unit ....last year they played well below expectations.

Give Romo time.....give the RB's lanes to run......this team will win....and it would of won with TO....Pac last year with all those distractions. IMHO
 

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Wrangler87;2807706 said:
Football really is not as complicated as everyone wants to make it. Everything depends on your O-Line. If your O-line can create holes for the running game, it creates second and third and short, which are easier to convert. It causes defenses to stack the box making it easier to pass, especially if that offensive line can give the necessary protection. The O-line can make an average NFL QB look great, or make him look lost if the O-line cannot protect.

When I hear people post their concerns about Romo or our lack of receiving depth that is not what concerns me. I know Romo can play at the highest level possible. I know that Roy Williams and Witten can play at a Pro Bowl level. Crayton is servicable and Austin a rising talent.

What I don't know is if our offensive line is championship caliber. I don't know if Adams will be in shape. I don't know if Kosier's foot will ever heal. I don't which Holland will show up this season and if he can start if Kosier cannot. I don't want to watch another Cowboys game with Proctor allowing our entire offense to get blown up.

That's why while a lot of posters are mulling over the list of available FA WR's I find myself looking for another LG and LT.


Post of the Day.
 

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Doomsday101;2807734 said:
another thing the moose pointed to which was very important is the penalities. When your 3rd and 15 its hard to overcome past 3rd and 7. Because teams are loaded now on defense and just hard to get past that.

I have been harping on this quite a bit. When defense knows you are looking at 2nd or 3rd in long it is not that hard to defend they know what you will be doing. Dallas has to cut down on penalties these are major drive killers that this team or any team can't deal with


Since Flo and Columbo are still starters, the penalty killing drives are here to stay. Flo is only gonna get worse as he looks to get a jump on the defender or hold the defender to compensate for his diminishing skills.
 

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dmq;2807835 said:
Since Flo and Columbo are still starters, the penalty killing drives are here to stay. Flo is only gonna get worse as he looks to get a jump on the defender or hold the defender to compensate for his diminishing skills.

Oh well, I guess I spoke way too soon. :bang2:
 

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I think Garrett is working the traditional timing based passing game. The reason for the Romo friendly comments and TO release. He was unable to run precise routes.

The reports of missed timing in OTA's is a result of this focus I believe. Romo's freelance work will be restricted and controled better with this focus.
 

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dmq;2807835 said:
Since Flo and Columbo are still starters, the penalty killing drives are here to stay. Flo is only gonna get worse as he looks to get a jump on the defender or hold the defender to compensate for his diminishing skills.

I don't buy that I think they capable of cutting down on penalties. I don't expect games with 0 penalties but we have avg double figures in penalties that number needs to go down and I think it can.
 

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Wrangler87;2807706 said:
Football really is not as complicated as everyone wants to make it. Everything depends on your O-Line. If your O-line can create holes for the running game, it creates second and third and short, which are easier to convert. It causes defenses to stack the box making it easier to pass, especially if that offensive line can give the necessary protection. The O-line can make an average NFL QB look great, or make him look lost if the O-line cannot protect.

When I hear people post their concerns about Romo or our lack of receiving depth that is not what concerns me. I know Romo can play at the highest level possible. I know that Roy Williams and Witten can play at a Pro Bowl level. Crayton is servicable and Austin a rising talent.

What I don't know is if our offensive line is championship caliber. I don't know if Adams will be in shape. I don't know if Kosier's foot will ever heal. I don't which Holland will show up this season and if he can start if Kosier cannot. I don't want to watch another Cowboys game with Proctor allowing our entire offense to get blown up.

That's why while a lot of posters are mulling over the list of available FA WR's I find myself looking for another LG and LT.

:hammer:

This is one of the better posts on this subject. My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to have a TG at the 2 and a Fitz at the 1 with our TEs. But you can only be so loaded in today's NFL. And we may very well be loaded.

If this OL will protect Romo and open up some holes those RBs will look All Pro. It will be hard to pick a guy for the Pro Bowl. People will argue over it. And if RW is all that and Austin steps up as a #1-3 WR then our QB will go to the Pro Bowl with the rest of them including 2-4 OL. Add in the defense and you're talking about a sea of silver and blue.



I see Dallas East beat me to it.
 

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jobberone;2807945 said:
:hammer:

This is one of the better posts on this subject. My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to have a TG at the 2 and a Fitz at the 1 with our TEs. But you can only be so loaded in today's NFL. And we may very well be loaded.

If this OL will protect Romo and open up some holes those RBs will look All Pro. It will be hard to pick a guy for the Pro Bowl. People will argue over it. And if RW is all that and Austin steps up as a #1-3 WR then our QB will go to the Pro Bowl with the rest of them including 2-4 OL. Add in the defense and you're talking about a sea of silver and blue.



I see Dallas East beat me to it.

Another best thing for the Cowboys is that hardly no player for the Cowboys gets elected to the pro bowl. If you remember what happened to the cowboys defense in 92 and the giants defense in 2007. The cowboys defense in 92 was number one defense in the league, but no players got elected to the pro bowl that year, best to me memory, ken norton jr and the other players took offense to that.
Same thing happened to the Giants defense in 92, when our cowboys got all of the pro bowl honors, giants defense didnt get nominated. The giants defense took offense to that.
So in regards, same thing needs to happen to our cowboys this year, let hardly none of them get elected, get their dander up to prove all of the voters etc wrong and the other teams coaches etc that voted against them.
 

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cowboyjoe;2808029 said:
Another best thing for the Cowboys is that hardly no player for the Cowboys gets elected to the pro bowl. If you remember what happened to the cowboys defense in 92 and the giants defense in 2007. The cowboys defense in 92 was number one defense in the league, but no players got elected to the pro bowl that year, best to me memory, ken norton jr and the other players took offense to that.
Same thing happened to the Giants defense in 92, when our cowboys got all of the pro bowl honors, giants defense didnt get nominated. The giants defense took offense to that.
So in regards, same thing needs to happen to our cowboys this year, let hardly none of them get elected, get their dander up to prove all of the voters etc wrong and the other teams coaches etc that voted against them.

i also saw something noteworthy about the cowboys in the super bowl the cowboys lost to the steelers in 79 with the jackie smith drop. None of the cowboys players blamed jackie smith, in fact one of them said if it hadnt been for jackie smith they wouldnt have been their to play against the steelers because of what jackie smith said.

The cowboys were like 5-5 in wins and losses and jackie smith called a private meeting, (something that I have stated over and over this team needs, leaders stepping up making players accountable). Now smith had just joined the cowboys that year, and he told them the reason why they were losing was because of their bad practice habits. The players looked within themselves and realiazed it was true they werent practing like they had been, but playing like they were so super they didnt really have to practice etc. something like that.

So, the players worked harder in their practice habits and they got to the superbowl. Which goes back to the penalty issue. Either the head coach and coaches have to keep the players working hard, etc, to not make the dumb stupid penalties or we might be in trouble. Just like jimmy johnson said, fatigue makes cowards of you all, and he hated sloppy football.
 

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I don't have an idea of why they commit so many penalties. They had it hard and soft and I didn't see a difference. IMO, they are immune from their mistakes and just blow it off. They got the money and they aren't hungry enough. Or they're just incapable of not committing them.
 

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jobberone;2808165 said:
I don't have an idea of why they commit so many penalties. They had it hard and soft and I didn't see a difference. IMO, they are immune from their mistakes and just blow it off. They got the money and they aren't hungry enough. Or they're just incapable of not committing them.

i think you hit the nail on the head, they got their money and some of them arent hungry enough, the ones that committ the most mistakes like flozell adams;
 

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cowboyjoe;2808187 said:
i think you hit the nail on the head, they got their money and some of them arent hungry enough, the ones that committ the most mistakes like flozell adams;

Well, I either hope I'm very wrong which is quite possible or they are trainable and the coaches will find a way.
 
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