The real King has spoken... M.J.

StylisticS;3463017 said:
I think many people's beef is not with Lebron signing with Bosh and Wade in Miami. Just the way he handled the situation and how he did it. That's the bigger beef most people have.

Word.
 
Rampage;3462986 said:
Pippen was traded to the Bulls right off the bat. it's not like Jordan left his team to play with Pippen.
My point was that it's not like he was devoid of talent on his squad like LeBron was. If he didn't have Pippen and 6 rings he might think differently. Of course, players didn't move in free agency in the 80s early 90s like they do now. Look at the stars of that era. Bird was a lifetime Celtic, Magic was a lifer, Jordan... until he retired for the 2nd time, James Worthy, Kareem was traded to LA, Barkley was a Sixer for years before being traded to Phoenix and then Houston, etc.
 
StylisticS;3463017 said:
I think many people's beef is not with Lebron signing with Bosh and Wade in Miami. Just the way he handled the situation and how he did it. That's the bigger beef most people have.

nevermind the fact that it wasn't even LeBron's idea...
 
Audiman;3463182 said:
nevermind the fact that it wasn't even LeBron's idea...
It doesn't matter whether or not it was his idea. He went through with the spectacle, so it's on him. A few years from now no one will probably remember this, but until then he's going to lose some fans.
 
Cover 2;3463294 said:
It doesn't matter whether or not it was his idea. He went through with the spectacle, so it's on him. A few years from now no one will probably remember this, but until then he's going to lose some fans.
The "no one will probably remember this in x-amount of years" analogy is very rarely accurate. Many people within the Cleveland Cavaliers fanbase will remember how LeBron James announced his decision to leave their team. Should the Miami Heat experience the success James expects, there will be some fans within his newest fanbase who shall remember how he can to be there as well.

Now, will the vast majority of NBA and sports fans (outside of both fanbases) care about how James conducted his Cleveland exit strategy? Nope, but media hype machines such as ESPN will make certain that many fans (regardless of whether they enjoy pro basketball or not) will be reminded of The Totally Unnecessary LeBron James Good-Bye Show for years to come.

Things like this very rarely have a deadline and go *poof!* It's human nature to rue.
 
At the end of the day, would James like to be "the man" on a team that doesn't win a title or the A-Rod of the Miami Heat. That was two straight years that Cleveland had the best record in the regular season only to come up short in the playoffs. LeBron needs someone to close the deal in the post-season and Dwayne Wade can be that guy.

None of this matters anyway because Orlando is going to win the title! :D
 
I agree with what Mike says.

I think Lebron had every right to go to another team ...... but the way he did it was classless.

He knew he was not returning to Cleveland ...... and should have informed them of that with dignity.

The way he did it ....... in a public spectacle ..... was crap.

And although I find it hilarious how Lebron fanboys suddenly act like he sucks ..... I completely understand why the people of Cleveland hate his guts now.
 
DallasEast;3463320 said:
The "no one will probably remember this in x-amount of years" analogy is very rarely accurate. Many people within the Cleveland Cavaliers fanbase will remember how LeBron James announced his decision to leave their team.

And the vast majority of people could care less about the Cleveland Cavaliers(or Cleveland sports in general) fanbase.
 
Cover 2;3463294 said:
It doesn't matter whether or not it was his idea. He went through with the spectacle, so it's on him. A few years from now no one will probably remember this, but until then he's going to lose some fans.

a few years? the only way I remember it is this thread won't die and the media won't shut up.

3 days, nobody will remember. Cowboys training camp starts and the haters will be out in full force.
 
joseephuss;3463484 said:
And the vast majority of people could care less about the Cleveland Cavaliers(or Cleveland sports in general) fanbase.
True, but it's a different story for the Cleveland fans themselves.
 
casmith07;3463527 said:
a few years? the only way I remember it is this thread won't die and the media won't shut up.
Let's say that aloud:

"The only way I remember it is... the media won't shut up."

In this day and age, where true sports reporting often takes a backseat to sensationalistic broadcasting, exactly when does the media ever truly 'shut up'?

;)
casmith07;3463527 said:
3 days, nobody will remember. Cowboys training camp starts and the haters will be out in full force.
:laugh2: That's some GOOD amnesia. In three days, guys like Slate will be saying, "LeBron who?" after hearing the latest ESPN quip about James. Now, if I could only bottle that and sprinkle it over the Randy Moss rue-ers, life would be perfect. :D
 
I don't like the way he handled it, but at this point I'm starting to get backlash against the LBJ backlash because it's gotten so ridiculous and over the top. What LeBron did with that franchise was a miracle. Let's not act like Kobe would have done any better ... we've seen what Kobe does without a 2nd Superstar, it's called the 2004, 2005 and 2006 Lakers who finished a combined 121-125. LeBron gets criticized for not winning a championship with a sad sack supporting cast, Kobe couldn't even finish over .500.
 
joseephuss;3462967 said:
In what way? The gambling? He made himself into an icon that extended far beyond the court. He did a lot of things to show he was very smart. He also has done some dumb things.

Maybe you are thinking of Isaiah Thomas. Speaking of which, how the hell does he keep getting jobs. What is wrong with the owner in New York that he would want to bring Thomas back as GM? The guy has been a disaster since his playing days. He must have some kind of leverage on people.

Isaiah is in a whole other category. Its hard to believe anyone who wears a Hitler mustache is all there mentally. I think his ego has gotten the best of him and he is a bit over the top and off the ranch. JMO
 
Bonecrusher#31;3462794 said:
Don't forget Shaq (Even now he is better than Longley, Wennington and Cartwright all combined)


Your fooling yourself with that statement. Shaq was one of the all time greats but he is a fringe player now and a flat out liaibility if his team is winning late in a game when you can use the hack a shaq tactic.
 
DallasEast;3463320 said:
The "no one will probably remember this in x-amount of years" analogy is very rarely accurate. Many people within the Cleveland Cavaliers fanbase will remember how LeBron James announced his decision to leave their team. Should the Miami Heat experience the success James expects, there will be some fans within his newest fanbase who shall remember how he can to be there as well.


LOL most of the Cavaliers fanbase was LeBron James fans that will follow him and root for him no matter where he went.

Your fooling yourself if you think Miami cares about how LeBron left Cleveland. They are welcoming him with open arms.

Just think about this.... fans in Dallas had reason to hate TO and no doubt many didn't want him or his antics coming to town. But the min he started racking up yards and scoring TD all was forgiven.

In a year or two this will be a non issue mark it!
 

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