The real problem was blitz pick-up (i.e. Left OL and RB pass-blocking)

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The real problem was blitz pick-up; you can’t just throw a blanket criticism to the OL, because if you dissect what really happened, it clearly becomes too generic to say the problem was with the OL. It’s better to really analyze what happened, and based on commentary I’ve read/heard from coaches/players and non-Cowboys reporters, this is what I’ve come to determine:

The OL did a great job run-blocking all the way around. When it came to pass-blocking it was a different story. But the real problem was on the left side of the line; Adams and Kosier had mental lapses.

The other linemen (Center through the right side) did a good job pass-protecting. That might seem odd since we had a lot of rush come up the middle. But if you have 3 OLinemen blocking the middle/left and the defense sends 4 rushers then one guy must come through the line unblocked. The Center through the right side picked up/bloced the right rushers most of the time. The extra rusher coming through becomes the responsibility of the back(s) in the backfield. They were horrible at picking that up, and that’s what led to the middle rush. Also, because the backs did not pick up their blitzing man, they were not able to set themselves up as the safety valve for the blitz. In other words, the pressure is not slowed enough to give the QB ample time to release to the safety valve.

On a blitz, the RB assigned to the rusher needs to set up in front of the Blitzer and direct the rusher inside. Then the RB should release/flair-out, if possible, to the outside, on the same side of the filed where the rusher came from. Successfully setting up the rusher will slow him down just enough to allow the QB to read the blitz and release/throw the ball to the area of the safety valve - where the RB should go after first setting up the rusher. If it’s executed properly then the blitz is nullified and the runner has the ball to run on the side where there is one less defender (one less because the rusher coming through that side is already behind the play.).

In short, missed rushes/blitzes that came from the left side of the OL were the result of Adams/Kossier missing blocking assignments, and rushes coming from the center/right side of the OL were the result of the backs missing blocking assignments. So before we blame the line for bad blocking let’s focus on the ones who missed assignments. But let’s also praise the whole OL for good run-blocking. And while we can also praise the RBs for good running, let’s remember that they were liabilities also in the passing game by missing blocks and not setting up proper safety-valves as a counter to the blitz.

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JJ and MB3 failures to pick up blitzes were noted by Chuck Knox Jr yesterday. No doubt this was an issue.
 

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After getting back from the game, I sat in front of the DVR and watched every play in slow motion to see what went right and what went wrong. The Eagles repeatedly blitzed between the Center and Left Guard. Gurode played pretty well, but Kosier kept blocking the guy Flo already had leaving a LB free to come up the middle. Kosier was especially unable to deal with stunts by Howard. He would take the DT expecting Flo to have responsibility for Howard only to realize too late that Flo was blocking the DT and Howard was looping around to his right. At least once Kosier's mistake forced MBIII to deal with 2 blitzing LBs coming right up the middle and he was unable to handle it. Kosier's missed block was the cause of Bledsoe's first interception.

Kosier was very good in run blocking. He got down field on a screen to Julius early in the 4th quarter, but it came one play after lunging to block the DT that was being picked up by Fasano out of the backfield, and leaving a LB untouched to hit Julius.

Flo was also terrible in pass protection. He is too slow to handle speed rushers and can't hold blocks for very long. He is dominant in run blocking, but he is a liability in pass protection.

The rest of the line had some bad moments, but played well over all. Julius ran hard and took advantage of the Eagles playing their safetys off the line most of the game to double TO and Glenn.
 

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luvtheboys;1083353 said:
After getting back from the game, I sat in front of the DVR and watched every play in slow motion to see what went right and what went wrong. The Eagles repeatedly blitzed between the Center and Left Guard. Gurode played pretty well, but Kosier kept blocking the guy Flo already had leaving a LB free to come up the middle. Kosier was especially unable to deal with stunts by Howard. He would take the DT expecting Flo to have responsibility for Howard only to realize too late that Flo was blocking the DT and Howard was looping around to his right. At least once Kosier's mistake forced MBIII to deal with 2 blitzing LBs coming right up the middle and he was unable to handle it. Kosier's missed block was the cause of Bledsoe's first interception.

Kosier was very good in run blocking. He got down field on a screen to Julius early in the 4th quarter, but it came one play after lunging to block the DT that was being picked up by Fasano out of the backfield, and leaving a LB untouched to hit Julius.

Flo was also terrible in pass protection. He is too slow to handle speed rushers and can't hold blocks for very long. He is dominant in run blocking, but he is a liability in pass protection.

The rest of the line had some bad moments, but played well over all. Julius ran hard and took advantage of the Eagles playing their safetys off the line most of the game to double TO and Glenn.

Well that merely confirms what the true analysts are saying. Many on this board are calling for the heads of Bledsoe and Flozell Adams and some what the whole OL taken to task. But nobody is realizing that the RBs contributed to the passing game woes and 3 of the 5 linemen had solid games, and even FLO and Kossied did a good run-blocking job. Calling for peoples heads, or making blanket statements like "the whoe OL needs to be replaced" are uninformend and mis-guided.

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AMERICAS_FAN;1083454 said:
Well that merely confirms what the true analysts are saying. Many on this board are calling for the heads of Bledsoe and Flozell Adams and some what the whole OL taken to task. But nobody is realizing that the RBs contributed to the passing game woes and 3 of the 5 linemen had solid games, and even FLO and Kossied did a good run-blocking job. Calling for peoples heads, or making blanket statements like "the whoe OL needs to be replaced" are uninformend and mis-guided.

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There was one play where a blitzer came straight down the pipes and JJ was back there but did absolutely nothing to stop him from sacking Bledsoe.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;1083454 said:
Well that merely confirms what the true analysts are saying. Many on this board are calling for the heads of Bledsoe and Flozell Adams and some what the whole OL taken to task. But nobody is realizing that the RBs contributed to the passing game woes and 3 of the 5 linemen had solid games, and even FLO and Kossied did a good run-blocking job. Calling for peoples heads, or making blanket statements like "the whoe OL needs to be replaced" are uninformend and mis-guided.

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Agreed. Fan anger is natural, but the coaches have to make the best of what they have. I still think that Bledsoe gives us a best chance to win, but he is what he is. You can't make him a mobile QB. Instead you have to roll him out of the pocket, ALWAYS keep a back in on pass protection, and try to teach the O-line to do a better job picking up the blitz.

Flo has problems, but benching him for McQ is not going to improve anything (except possibly sacrificing this season way too early to build for the future).

Witten and Fasano had some really horrible plays in pass protection also. You can't bench everyone.

I don't want to rationalize and paint an overly rosy picture, but with even a little better pass protection and McBriar able to hold onto the snap, the Cowboys had a good chance to win a divisional road game against a very good team that was VERY fired up for the game. It was as must-win a situation for Philly as any game they have ever played, including the Super Bowl. They did not want to lose to TO and the Cowboys. The fans were CRAZY! They started tailgaiting 8 hours before the game and they were very vocal.
 

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I posted the fact that we didn't do a good job at all with the Blitz pick up in another thread but it kinda degenerated into a Bench Adams discussion. I do agree with this point though. Blitz pick up was horrible. The most frustrating thing about that whole situation was that if we had been able to just do a bit better job of the blitz pick up, we could have beaten that secondary like a drum. The middle blitz would have probably been called off and we wouldn't be having these discussions. It's maddening I tell you.
 

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baj1dallas;1083488 said:
There was one play where a blitzer came straight down the pipes and JJ was back there but did absolutely nothing to stop him from sacking Bledsoe.

I'm not if I am thinking of the same play, but...

The Eagles blitzed between C and LG. Flo blocked the DE and Kosier picked up the blitzing LB, leaving the DT to come up the middle untouched. JJ was in the backfield, but he was on Bledsoe's right side. Bledsoe was directly between JJ and the DT. Before JJ had a chance to do anything, the DT was all over Bledsoe. I am no expert and I don't pretend to know the blocking assignments, but if Kosier had blocked the DT, JJ MIGHT have had a chance to chip the LB.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1083505 said:
I posted the fact that we didn't do a good job at all with the Blitz pick up in another thread but it kinda degenerated into a Bench Adams discussion. I do agree with this point though. Blitz pick up was horrible. The most frustrating thing about that whole situation was that if we had been able to just do a bit better job of the blitz pick up, we could have beaten that secondary like a drum. The middle blitz would have probably been called off and we wouldn't be having these discussions. It's maddening I tell you.

Everyone talks about what a genius Jim Johnson is with creating blitz packages. I don't disagree, but on Sunday I could have been a defensive genius: blitz a LB and stunt the DE into the C-LG gap, repeat. Kosier NEVER adjusted to that play.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;1083310 said:
The real problem was blitz pick-up; you can’t just throw a blanket criticism to the OL, because if you dissect what really happened, it clearly becomes too generic to say the problem was with the OL. It’s better to really analyze what happened, and based on commentary I’ve read/heard from coaches/players and non-Cowboys reporters, this is what I’ve come to determine:

Here a few things that can help the oline

  1. a quick slant
  2. a screen
  3. a reverse
  4. a bootleg
  5. a naked bootleg
  6. a little mobility
 

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luvtheboys;1083511 said:
I'm not if I am thinking of the same play, but...

The Eagles blitzed between C and LG. Flo blocked the DE and Kosier picked up the blitzing LB, leaving the DT to come up the middle untouched. JJ was in the backfield, but he was on Bledsoe's right side. Bledsoe was directly between JJ and the DT. Before JJ had a chance to do anything, the DT was all over Bledsoe. I am no expert and I don't pretend to know the blocking assignments, but if Kosier had blocked the DT, JJ MIGHT have had a chance to chip the LB.


The problem with this is who engages the Guard. If the LB engages the Guard, then it's almost impossible to get on the DT. Your tied, so to speak. In this situation, it's the QBs responsability to recognize the pressure and evade in such a way to try and help the player responsible for the blitz pick up. There is no physical way that JJ could have gotten over in time to get a block on the free man. At some point, you have to be able to side step a bit and allow that extra split second required to get on the block or get the ball off, one.
 

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luvtheboys;1083514 said:
Everyone talks about what a genius Jim Johnson is with creating blitz packages. I don't disagree, but on Sunday I could have been a defensive genius: blitz a LB and stunt the DE into the C-LG gap, repeat. Kosier NEVER adjusted to that play.

When we let Larry Allen go I questioned the move because FLO was coming back from injury. (I know LA is injured now but you could not have predicted that, and if he resamoined a Cowboy he may be healthy now). FLO was SLOW on Sunday - typicall the year back from an injury. He needed Kossie to pick up his slack but all Kossier has shown is that as FLO plays worse, so does Kossier.

This was the game when we needed Kossie to pick up the slack from FLO. He is proving he can't which is the concern I raised when we slotted him in for LA. LA would have done a much better Job Sunday against Philly's blitz - like he did last year in BOTH games, and years past - and had we still had him we could've easily been victors in this game. Remeber, one player on ther OL is 20% of the unit; one player could've made the difference.

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From what I have seen, Kosier is better in run blocking than LA was at the end of last year. But if he doesn't learn to play inside-out in pass protection he will get Bledsoe killed.
 

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I started to watch all the sacks myself this morning, and didn't get very far into the game... But the first fumble by Bledsoe that basically gave them the ball was Flo's fault. He should have blocked down on the tackle, and you could see him thinking that -- but too late. By that time he realized it, it was too late and we were giving them the ball deep in our territory AGAIN.
 

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luvtheboys;1083514 said:
Everyone talks about what a genius Jim Johnson is with creating blitz packages. I don't disagree, but on Sunday I could have been a defensive genius: blitz a LB and stunt the DE into the C-LG gap, repeat. Kosier NEVER adjusted to that play.


This is really an excellent point. What's more, he's been using the same blitz package on us since Vinnie was here. In fact, it's probably same one Philly used on us when Troy was in his later years. Don't know that to be a fact but yeah, I do agree with your point.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1083714 said:
I started to watch all the sacks myself this morning, and didn't get very far into the game... But the first fumble by Bledsoe that basically gave them the ball was Flo's fault. He should have blocked down on the tackle, and you could see him thinking that -- but too late. By that time he realized it, it was too late and we were giving them the ball deep in our territory AGAIN.

:hammer:

Flo let the DT come through clean. Bledsoe never had a chance on that play.
 
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