The Real Reason there are so many Cowboy fans in DC

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I'm sure most of u alread know this, but the real reason there are soo many Cowboy fans in Dc is bc they know the history. The Washington Commanders were one of the last teams to allow black players in the league. DC is majority Black, they don't like this "tradition" very well... That is why so many DC residents like the Cowboys, pretty much bc it was their rival even before the league got started. Who ever was the most hated rival will be there favorite bc of the history. I just thought I should acknoweldge that living in DC.
 

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Wow. Not even sure what to think about this post. I guess that counts as a theory.
 

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Actually there are a lot of Cowboys fans everywhere. Even in cities where they have rivals. However, if I lived in DC I could not root for the Skins for these reasons.
 

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one of my favorited moments in the movie The Express, was when Ernie Davis was coming out of college, and the Skins owner was talking with Modell and saying how he would never draft a colored player. I started cracking up at how accurately the movie portrayed that racist.
 

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Biggems;3047130 said:
one of my favorited moments in the movie The Express, was when Ernie Davis was coming out of college, and the Skins owner was talking with Modell and saying how he would never draft a colored player. I started cracking up at how accurately the movie portrayed that racist.
In real life The Kennedy Administration sent Arizona Senator Morris Udall to threaten the Skins with sanctions. They drafted Ernie Davis as the first Black man to be selected #1 overall. Davis said, "I won't play for that son of a *****." He was traded to the Cleveland Browns for Bobby Mitchell, who went on to a Hall of Fame career.
 

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Interesting. I wouldn't necessarily say that's the reason for the huge amount of Cowboys fans in DC, but I would say that's definitely a reason for the lack of Black Commanders fans in DC.
 

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This is not the first time I've heard this theory. I've heard it talked about on DC area sports talk stations as well.
 

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BTW, does anyone else see it as sweet irony that the one franchise who fought integration the most, ended up being the first and only franchise to win a championship (Super Bowl) with a black QB.
 

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Hostile;3047122 said:
Actually there are a lot of Cowboys fans everywhere. Even in cities where they have rivals. However, if I lived in DC I could not root for the Skins for these reasons.

I heard the largest conglomerate of Cowboys fans outside of Texas is in the Washington DC area. How crazy is that. Talk about a fifth column.
 

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Actually talking about the Commanders past re anti-black players is not a fact but reality. Commanders owner George Preston Marshall was indeed very much against black players being allowed into the NFL. In an age when George Hallas, owner of the Bears & other team owners like the Steelers, etc. were interested in bringing black player in, Marshall forced their hand and prevented team integration for many years. Articles have been written about it and I believe even a book was out. All you have to to do is to search the web for info re Marshall and you will quickly find out his views were indeed very much reality & he took actions to prevent NFL integration for many years. BTW: Marshall was vehementally opposed to allowing the Cowboys to become a team in the NFL. Among the reasons, besides his desire to keep the south within the sphere of influence of the Commanders was also because he knew the Cowboys owner would side with George Hallas & other owners to allow black players to play in the NFL. It's fascinating to read all the stuff re Marshall.
 
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Personally speaking the fact the Deadskins were the last to intergrate played a huge role in me hating them and NOT being a fan. Also I hated the way Joe Gibbs treated the whole Doug Williams situation.
 

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BigStar;3047089 said:
I'm sure most of u alread know this, but the real reason there are soo many Cowboy fans in Dc is bc they know the history. The Washington Commanders were one of the last teams to allow black players in the league. DC is majority Black, they don't like this "tradition" very well... That is why so many DC residents like the Cowboys, pretty much bc it was their rival even before the league got started. Who ever was the most hated rival will be there favorite bc of the history. I just thought I should acknoweldge that living in DC.

Hmm... That very well could be why the Commanders have a huge following too.

No matter, I still hate them... ...though it does make me think. I know only one fan of the Commanders that is white. (he is from the DC area) The rest are all black. That seems to dispute your claim.

btw, lazy type is for lazy *** Commander fans. Don't ever type bc for because again.

Thanks, and goodnight.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;3047205 said:
Personally speaking the fact the Deadskins were the last to intergrate played a huge role in me hating them and NOT being a fan. Also I hated the way Joe Gibbs treated the whole Doug Williams situation.

What? Letting him win a Superbowl? :laugh2:
 

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Hostile;3047122 said:
Actually there are a lot of Cowboys fans everywhere. Even in cities where they have rivals. However, if I lived in DC I could not root for the Skins for these reasons.
There isn't anywhere near as many C-boys fans elsewhere as there is in the Maryland, DC, Virginia area. (except for Texas, of course)

1 out of every 3 fans here roots for the cowboys. In response to the original poster... I don't think that has anything whatsoever to do with the numbers though it is an interesting tidbit. Speaking from experience, it boils down to the simple fact that Sunday football games on television used to consist of the local team and the team they were playing that week. No Sunday Ticket, no internet, etc.
We were limited in what teams we saw here but the division rivals were always a team you could catch twice a year against the local Skins. Basically, the Boys were a great team during the years that most of us became old enough to begin following football and the Skins sucked. The 90's followed soon and imbedded the Boys in the hearts of anyone who hadn't painted themself into a specific team corner yet. The Boys also got a lot of nationally televised games and way more national exposure than any other team back when NFL exposure was very limited outside of gametime on Sunday.

For me, I remember getting a little extra exposure to the star just because my mother watched the nighttime soap opera "Dallas" and they showed Texas Stadium and the cheerleaders every week during the opening credits. Little things like that can be very influential to a child.
 

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casmith07;3047147 said:
Interesting. I wouldn't necessarily say that's the reason for the huge amount of Cowboys fans in DC, but I would say that's definitely a reason for the lack of Black Commanders fans in DC.

but their mascot is a black Indian
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3047258 said:
but their mascot is a black Indian
hey

that's an African-American Native American. Get it right.
 

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can't believe somebody just cried over another poster putting bc for because. Apparently it didn't take much effort for him to figure out what it meant.. and to say only a lazy typer would be a lazy Commanders fan is quite ridiculous. to call another cowboys fan a Commanders fan over typing, just pitiful.
 

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The Emperor;3047168 said:
I heard the largest conglomerate of Cowboys fans outside of Texas is in the Washington DC area. How crazy is that. Talk about a fifth column.

I always thought our biggest collection of Cowboys fans outside Dallas was in Arizona, and if you want to get really technical, the Cowboys are huge in Mexico.
 

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sago1;3047202 said:
Actually talking about the Commanders past re anti-black players is not a fact but reality. Commanders owner George Preston Marshall was indeed very much against black players being allowed into the NFL. In an age when George Hallas, owner of the Bears & other team owners like the Steelers, etc. were interested in bringing black player in, Marshall forced their hand and prevented team integration for many years. Articles have been written about it and I believe even a book was out. All you have to to do is to search the web for info re Marshall and you will quickly find out his views were indeed very much reality & he took actions to prevent NFL integration for many years. BTW: Marshall was vehementally opposed to allowing the Cowboys to become a team in the NFL. Among the reasons, besides his desire to keep the south within the sphere of influence of the Commanders was also because he knew the Cowboys owner would side with George Hallas & other owners to allow black players to play in the NFL. It's fascinating to read all the stuff re Marshall.

Black players had been in the NFL since 1946 when the Rams signed Kenny Washington and Woody Strode. The AAFC was actually first with the Browns signing Marion Motley and Bill Willis prior to the Rams signing their guys.

By the time the Cowboys were even considered as an expansion team every team in the league had several black players except the Commanders of course.

Marshall was instrumental in getting black players unofficially banned when he started the Boston Braves in 1932. Prior to that there had been a number of black players in the NFL including one black HC, Fritz Pollard. Actor/singer Paul Robeson, best known for his role in the musical "Show Boat" played in the NFL in the early 20s.

Marshall was influential among the owners because he brought a great deal of financial backing into the league at a time when many teams were struggling. In return for loans the owners pretty much gave in to whatever he wanted to do. He was a staunch racist and didn't think it was right for whites and blacks to "mix" so he pushed for them to be quietly blocked from playing in the NFL.

Once the Browns signed black players the Rams were quick to follow and within a few years nearly every team was drafting black players.

To be a little bit fair, not a lot of black athletes were in college back then so there was not nearly the number to choose from in the draft as there is now. Scholarships were not awarded as easily and most colleges were not integrated yet so the small numbers of black players in the 50s should not be construed as the NFL keeping them out. Once the gate was open teams were quick to sign quality players. There just wasn't that many available at the time.

Once the 60s and Civil Rights came along the number of black football players in college increased dramatically and the draft reflected that as well. The AFL in particular drafted a lot of black athletes and the NFL didn't want to be left behind. Scouting at black colleges like Grambling had been nearly non-existent, until the AFL came along. Plus there was still a lot of southern players & coaches who didn't want black players on their teams. It took time to break that bias down but eventually it happened.

Sorry for the history lesson this morning... :D
 
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