the reason why i am not mad about the loss...

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sean payton! the guy is a genius! he was tomy romo's qb coach and he knew how to show pick on his weakness...it seemes like the saints knew our wr routes too good.....GIVE ME A BREAK! IT WAS THE SAINTS DEFENSE! but im not hatin i still give credit to the saints. they just wanted it more than we did. as for romo's performance, he had a chance to bring us back if the defense didnt stink it up......as for reggie bush....i am really impressed with this guy! i love how sean payton uses him on those "florida state" RB flat passes...bush is amazing to watch because he could break any play into a highlight reel TD....i wonder how many fake cowboy fans jumped off the romo bandwagon? as for T.O. GET RID OF HIM JERRY!
 

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I agree, plus we had an emotional let down after our big giants win last week........
 

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cowboys#1;1225633 said:
sean payton! the guy is a genius! he was tomy romo's qb coach and he knew how to show pick on his weakness...it seemes like the saints knew our wr routes too good.....GIVE ME A BREAK! IT WAS THE SAINTS DEFENSE! but im not hatin i still give credit to the saints. they just wanted it more than we did. as for romo's performance, he had a chance to bring us back if the defense didnt stink it up......as for reggie bush....i am really impressed with this guy! i love how sean payton uses him on those "florida state" RB flat passes...bush is amazing to watch because he could break any play into a highlight reel TD....i wonder how many fake cowboy fans jumped off the romo bandwagon? as for T.O. GET RID OF HIM JERRY!

I just dont understand this logic.

Look, I know when a team you are a fan of loses you have to find the positives to feel better.

Did Payton know more than most coaches we have went up against sure, but at the end of the day, it is up to Parcells to counter this advantage and he didnt.

We had no creativity on offense. How about doing a reverse with Glenn to get him involved, how about doing more than just doing Up-N-Outs deep with Terrell Owens? Parcells featured Julius Jones in this game and I was just waiting to see a Screen Pass thrown to counter the blitz.

There was just no creativity on offense, which I think is more of Parcells (or whoever calls the plays) not being creative rather than Payton preventing us from being creative.
 

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mickgreen58;1225675 said:
I just dont understand this logic.

Look, I know when a team you are a fan of loses you have to find the positives to feel better.

Did Payton know more than most coaches we have went up against sure, but at the end of the day, it is up to Parcells to counter this advantage and he didnt.

We had no creativity on offense. How about doing a reverse with Glenn to get him involved, how about doing more than just doing Up-N-Outs deep with Terrell Owens? Parcells featured Julius Jones in this game and I was just waiting to see a Screen Pass thrown to counter the blitz.

There was just no creativity on offense, which I think is more of Parcells (or whoever calls the plays) not being creative rather than Payton preventing us from being creative.
its simple PATYON knows the saints and the cowboys players/ PARCELLS knows the cowboys players but not the saints....except of course fujita copper and shanle....
 

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Reggie Bush played an excellent game.

Payton really knows how to get the most out of his players.
 

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So.....what exactly was it that Payton did to throw Romo off. Sure didn't look like anything more then what other teams have tried and IMO, the Giants gameplanned much better for Romo then New Orleans did.


Payton didn't do anything special.....fortunately, the Boys coaches didn't do anything at all.
 

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i agree there is no reason to be mad we will bounce back against atlanta i also think this loss was on bp's head i don't think he prepaired this team when you face a coach that know's your offense like sean did you work on new or differant plays so that they don't know what's coming i think bp new at the begining of the season he would play the saints why didn't he install new plays for this game
 

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Thehoofbite;1225741 said:
So.....what exactly was it that Payton did to throw Romo off. Sure didn't look like anything more then what other teams have tried and IMO, the Giants gameplanned much better for Romo then New Orleans did.


Payton didn't do anything special.....fortunately, the Boys coaches didn't do anything at all.

Yeah.

Sadly, people are going to use "Payton" knowing our players and system as an excuse for the Cowboys to lay an egg.

- Mike G.
 

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You know if you are not mad about this loss, whether it was last night or this morning.

Than you better check your pulse.

I don't care what excuse that is being used to justify the loss. I mean a loss happens so I am not saying it should never have happened.

But we got abused on Offense and Defense. We got abused in almost every aspect of the game with the possible exception of special teams.

Not only were we out coached in this game, which includes your SP logic, but we were also outplayed.

So, I get what you are getting at, and the anger will pass.

But for someone not to be mad at not the loss, but the way we loss, again I say you better check your pulse.

Time will go on, we will move on, but that was just a horrible loss by any standards.
 

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mickgreen58;1225770 said:
Yeah.

Sadly, people are going to use "Payton" knowing our players and system as an excuse for the Cowboys to lay an egg.

- Mike G.

Yeah. Sadly it's true.
 

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cowboys#1;1225692 said:
its simple PATYON knows the saints and the cowboys players/ PARCELLS knows the cowboys players but not the saints....except of course fujita copper and shanle....


But anyway, it is extremely foolish to say we got DESTROYED 42-17 because Payton knew our players. Please.

There is literally hundreds of film that Parcells and Co. have at their finger tip to analyze Brees, it is not like the guy is a rookie for the Saints.

What was Parcells saying at least 2 or 3 times Thursday and Friday of last week? He was PO'ed at the media and kept saying, "Anything else guys...I got film to watch".

Why even play the Damn game if you have never coached the opposing QB before.

Did Payton have some "Qualitative" advantages because of his background, sure, but those advantages dont TRANSLATE to a 42-17 drumming.

Blaming Payton's knowlege of the Boys is the easy choice. You can live with it and sleep better at night.

The real problem was the Offensive and Defensive Scheme and Parcells and Company got outcoached and alot of that had nothing to do with Payton's knowledge of the Cowboys....like Parcells throwing the Challenge Flag under 2 minutes when all coaches had been warned that this would result in a ULC penalty and was huge in yardage and downs for the Saints :rolleyes: .

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mickgreen58;1225808 said:
Did Payton have some "Qualitative" advantages because of his background, sure, but those advantages dont TRANSLATE to a 42-17 drumming.

Payton probably used to walk all over Zimmer's defense in practice while he was here. Nothing has changed.
 

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Last night was one of those crazy scenarios where one team executed almost flawlessly and played their best game of the year, while the other had horrid execution and played its worst game.......props to the Saints, but I would like another shot at them in the playoffs.
 

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Deputy493;1225854 said:
Last night was one of those crazy scenarios where one team executed almost flawlessly and played their best game of the year, while the other had horrid execution and played its worst game.......props to the Saints, but I would like another shot at them in the playoffs.

I agree. It was a game where the Saints could do no wrong and Dallas on the other hand could not get anything to break their way. Hopefully the team will learn from this experiance and then put it behind them and move on.
 

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we got manhandled by a team with our offensive and defense PLAYBOOK

i'd be more pissed if we lost on the road, as our building is the lamest of the arenas any great team has played in. utterly lame.

also we weren't winning 13 straight so 3 + 3 wins is a superbowl trip... not outside the realm of possibility
 

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mickgreen58;1225770 said:
Yeah.

Sadly, people are going to use "Payton" knowing our players and system as an excuse for the Cowboys to lay an egg.

- Mike G.

You are exactly right. The players didn't execute. The coaches didn't coach. The team, both players and coaches laid an egg. If you want to point fingers, you could do that with your eyes closed. Whichever way you point, you'd be on target.

But, regardless of what the score was and how it happened, it was just another regular season game. Anybody who actually thought the Cowboys would win-out all the way to the Superbowl was probably misguided.

I am never happy with a loss, but this is an opportunity for all of us, fans and players, to see what this team is made of. Romo just got slapped around; we'll see how he responds.

Oh, and since T.O. has often been a no-class selfish player, I was pleased to see that he didn't make a spectacle of himself on that lucky touchdown pass.

And, my own theory, is that the Cowboys were ready to play, but the game started so well, the 3 and out for the Saints followed by a big play for the Cowboys, that the team hit the "cruise" button and waited for the Saints to fold. In a big game, once the intensity goes, it's gone forever.

And, as far as Payton knowing our players being the big difference, he knew our players on the first 3 and out also. I'm sure he didn't do that on purpose. The difference was the intensity levels on each side of the field. The Saints are not that good, and the Cowboys are not that bad, and I don't care who is coaching. There are no secrets in the NFL. If Payton knows the Cowboys are vulnerable to passes in the flats, so does every other offensive coordinator.

And, even Peyton Manning looked bad yesterday. Stuff happens.

Funny poster of the day yesterday, Fox pre-game poster held by a fan in Carolina "Eli is adopted."
 

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CooterBrown;1226162 said:
You are exactly right. The players didn't execute. The coaches didn't coach. The team, both players and coaches laid an egg. If you want to point fingers, you could do that with your eyes closed. Whichever way you point, you'd be on target.

But, regardless of what the score was and how it happened, it was just another regular season game. Anybody who actually thought the Cowboys would win-out all the way to the Superbowl was probably misguided.

I am never happy with a loss, but this is an opportunity for all of us, fans and players, to see what this team is made of. Romo just got slapped around; we'll see how he responds.

Oh, and since T.O. has often been a no-class selfish player, I was pleased to see that he didn't make a spectacle of himself on that lucky touchdown pass.

And, my own theory, is that the Cowboys were ready to play, but the game started so well, the 3 and out for the Saints followed by a big play for the Cowboys, that the team hit the "cruise" button and waited for the Saints to fold. In a big game, once the intensity goes, it's gone forever.

And, as far as Payton knowing our players being the big difference, he knew our players on the first 3 and out also. I'm sure he didn't do that on purpose. The difference was the intensity levels on each side of the field. The Saints are not that good, and the Cowboys are not that bad, and I don't care who is coaching. There are no secrets in the NFL. If Payton knows the Cowboys are vulnerable to passes in the flats, so does every other offensive coordinator.

And, even Peyton Manning looked bad yesterday. Stuff happens.

Funny poster of the day yesterday, Fox pre-game poster held by a fan in Carolina "Eli is adopted."

Good post.

This one really stings because despite key talent in several positions, our roster is superior to theirs. Yet it was domination on both sides of the ball.

And we got outcoached BAD.

But better teams than this got their arses whipped yesterday, including the NE Patriots.

Let's come back from it.

Fast.
 

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Yep. It's only ONE regular season loss although it feels like about 5.

Course we got similarly shellacked last year in Wash 35-7 down the stretch and bounced back pretty good against Carolina the next week so whatever.
 
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