The Romo Problem

[Rack]

I stared to put this in a thread as an answer, but it occurs to me this may need its own space.

Romo has attained a level of understanding about this game that only the elite players have. Not to say the run of the mill QB's don't see it, perhaps. But an understanding of what works and what doesn't is where Romo is now.

What makes Peyton, Brady, Rogers, and Brees special. Certainly it's the talent they possess. But it also is a complete understanding of their teams strengths and weaknesses and what the defense is doing.

But there is one other aspect to the top flight QB.

And that is the collective intelligence of the team surrounding him.

Romo is audibling like crazy. He sees where the ball needs to go. But too many times the people who surround Tony are not on the same page. They do not have the understanding.

This comes down to it takes a team. But this is less the talent the team has than the brains the team has that surrounds Romo.

Factor in the offensive line weaknesses, and Romo now seems to appear as if he is struggling, and what is different between this year and the ones when he wqas in complete control?

He has a finite window for success on every play, but getting his pieces into place is not always a done deal.

I think the combination of the line play along with the intelligence factor, and that Romo is now not playing sand lot football but directing a team that doesn't see what he sees is the biggest reason he is not as successful this year.

Put the team around him that will protect him and get to the spot he deems necessary and this guy will take the team all the way.

And if this is the case, then how sad is it that a guy who is mentally and physically in the top level of the game has to suffer not only from a lack of talent, but the fact that his team doesn't have a big brain like Brad.

He is truly unique.

 

[percyhoward]

percy speaks the truth.

I bet you can't believe we're on pace to repeat those 5 rushing TDs from last year.

After the draft and FA came and went, you couldn't realistically expect anything else. I think the coaches understood our offensive limitations going into the season, and then were maybe fooled a little by the first game, but are now back to the original thinking that this is in the defense's hands.

The 3rd and 9 run call late in the game was a give-up call, and says it all about where they're placing their confidence this year. They don't have much of a choice, do they?

 

[Bluestang]

After the draft and FA came and went, you couldn't realistically expect anything else. I think the coaches understood our offensive limitations going into the season, and then were maybe fooled a little by the first game, but are now back to the original thinking that this is in the defense's hands.

The 3rd and 9 run call late in the game was a give-up call, and says it all about where they're placing their confidence this year. They don't have much of a choice, do they?

Dare I say that maybe they don't trust Romo either in that situation?

(putting flame suit on)

 

[Ender]

LOL, this whole thread is funny. Romo's poor play is because he's got such an understanding of the game now that he's not on the same page as the receivers? Give me a break. He accuracy has been horrible, his decision making has been horrible, his ball control has been horrible. The offense has score less than 20 points in 4 out 6 games, he's forced passes and thrown picks at the worst possible time and its cause he's got a better understanding of the game? i have no idea what you guys are watching.

The failures of this team are a collective. It is now, like it has always been. Romo is included in those failure just as much as Otree Jerry Jones, and the other clowns in this organization.

 

[percyhoward]

Dare I say that maybe they don't trust Romo either in that situation?

(putting flame suit on)

Last year, Romo had the #2 red zone passer rating in the league, so I don't think they suddenly lost faith in Romo. They are however quite aware that the receiver Romo trusted most in that situation last year is no longer on the team.

 

[perrykemp]

They are however quite aware that the receiver Romo trusted most in that situation last year is no longer on the team.

That's probably true.

Some argued last season that Robinson was essentially really the #2 WR.

It makes you question, however, why the heck they overloaded on CB in the offseason at the expense of #3 WR and OL.

Carr is a good player, but you kinda wonder, in hindsight, if that $10m year could have been spent more effectively.

 

[Bluestang]

Last year, Romo had the #2 red zone passer rating in the league, so I don't think they suddenly lost faith in Romo. They are however quite aware that the receiver Romo trusted most in that situation last year is no longer on the team.

The problem with that thinking though is a good portion of those 11 TDs came on busted plays and Romo extended the play to find him after the initial coverage broke down.

Did we forget that almost INT he threw today trying to extend the play?

I know that Romo is a good QB but he too has had his errors with situational football.

It's the whole team.

 

[percyhoward]

The problem with that thinking though is a good portion of those 11 TDs came on busted plays and Romo extended the play to find him after the initial coverage broke down.

Sure, Romo might have thrown INT's on those plays, but so what?

In a very general sense, it's "the whole team." More specifically though, the receiver whom everyone agreed he counted on most has been replaced by the receiver he can count on least, and sure enough we're seeing the effect play out.

 

[Bluestang]

Sure, Romo might have thrown INT's on those plays, but so what?

In a very general sense, it's "the whole team." More specifically though, the receiver whom everyone agreed he counted on most has been replaced by the receiver he can count on least, and sure enough we're seeing the effect play out.

We aren't seeing alot of redzone plays where Romo is extending the play.

Instead we are seeing mental errors that are costing us yardage and forcing the playcalling.

Against the Ravens, the final TD drive we went 110 yds to only cover 80. You can only do that effectively so much and then the coordinator is going to go conservative because he can't trust his players to execute the playcalls.

Parcells had the same problem in the playoff game against SEA, he went conservative because he didn't want those mistakes to cost him the game.

 

[percyhoward]

We aren't seeing alot of redzone plays where Romo is extending the play.

Robinson could get away from the other team's 3rd corner, and Ogletree can't. Robinson knew where Romo was expecting him to be, and Ogletree doesn't.

 

[cowboyzz11]

we will never WIN with Romo

we drafted a CB who is Average - while letting the OG and C position go

we reached for Claiborne - while Carolina good a just as good CB in the 5 rd

Josh Norman - 3 tackles

Claiborne - 1

Dez I think hes brain dead he missed another read today

Olgetree omg might as well try any one else

I don't think Romo has the arm strength to throw the ball accurately

for over 20 yards - like last week he was way off even on his short throws

we need to draft his replacement this year

 

[Keystone_Heavy]

we will never WIN with Romo

we drafted a CB who is Average - while letting the OG and C position go

we reached for Claiborne - while Carolina good a just as good CB in the 5 rd

Josh Norman - 3 tackles

Claiborne - 1

Dez I think hes brain dead he missed another read today

Olgetree omg might as well try any one else

I don't think Romo has the arm strength to throw the ball accurately

for over 20 yards - like last week he was way off even on his short throws

we need to draft his replacement this year

Is this serious or a really bad attempt to troll?

 

[pgreptom]

we will never WIN with Romo

we drafted a CB who is Average - while letting the OG and C position go

we reached for Claiborne - while Carolina good a just as good CB in the 5 rd

Josh Norman - 3 tackles

Claiborne - 1

Dez I think hes brain dead he missed another read today

Olgetree omg might as well try any one else

I don't think Romo has the arm strength to throw the ball accurately

for over 20 yards - like last week he was way off even on his short throws

we need to draft his replacement this year

For the love of all things wonderful.. I hope you're joking. Are you really using cornerback tackle statistics as a measure of how good a corner is? Alan Ball had a lot of tackles... he must be a sure fire hall of famer.

Didn't the Falcons pick on Norman the entire game winning drive ?? Norman is nowhere near the player Claiborne is... nor does he have have the same potential.

 

[cowboyzz11]

Is this serious or a really bad attempt to troll?

your drunk so it does not count

 

[cowboyzz11]

so we are going dink an dunk the ball to Witten an win a SB

 

[Bluestang]

Robinson could get away from the other team's 3rd corner, and Ogletree can't. Robinson knew where Romo was expecting him to be, and Ogletree doesn't.

I can agree with that.

 

[cowboyzz11]

For the love of all things wonderful.. I hope you're joking. Are you really using cornerback tackle statistics as a measure of how good a corner is? Alan Ball had a lot of tackles... he must be a sure fire hall of famer.

Didn't the Falcons pick on Norman the entire game winning drive ?? Norman is nowhere near the player Claiborne is... nor does he have have the same potential.

Alan Ball Cowboys (2007-11), recording 105 total tackles (83 solo) and three INTs.

so your saying that Claiborne will be a hall of famer ?


and get your magic eight ball out

I still take a 5 rounder who can stick to Austin any day over Claiborne where was he on that Carolina TD 3 yards behind L a Fell

 

[CaptainMorgan]

I think Romo is part of the issue here with this offense and I'll tell you why.

He is an enormously talented QB and may be the best in the league at feeling pressure in the pocket and making something out of nothing. He is a fairly accurate QB, not the best but far from the worst.

Here is where it goes wrong. He lets all you mental midget fans and the cooky Dallas media get in his head. He is a gunslinger in the purest form, he is a risk taker by nature, he is going to throw his share of pics whether its a communication thing with his receivers or not, but I really believe he is mentally weak. He is not the happy go lucky smiling guy we saw take over for Bledsoe. Those days are gone and we have all had a hand it.

Tony will never meet the expectations of the media and Cowboys fans. His best will never be good enough. We will make sure of that regardless what kind of crap players we stick in the huddle with him.

A QB for the Dallas Cowboys has to be mentally resilient and self insulated from outside opinion. Tony, I dont believe, is either. I think Tony is realizing that, hence shelving the contract extension talks. I think he wants to go have fun again with another team. Some place that can appreciate his style of play. I cant see for the life of me how anything that goes on with this team would be fun for any of these current players but especially not so for him.

I would be surprised if he returns next season.

 

[Keystone_Heavy]

so we are going dink an dunk the ball to Witten an win a SB

The criticism of Dez and Olgetree isn't even the part I had a problem with. That makes me think that you ARE a troll, seeing as you assumed it was :laugh2:

No, my problem is that you would are saying that Norman is better than Claiborne after 6 games into their careers, based soley on the tackles in today's game.

And that you think teams can nonchalantly draft QBs that are better than Romo like its Madden 2010.

 

[Keystone_Heavy]

Alan Ball Cowboys (2007-11), recording 105 total tackles (83 solo) and three INTs.

so your saying that Claiborne will be a hall of famer ?


and get your magic eight ball out

I still take a 5 rounder who can stick to Austin any day over Claiborne where was he on that Carolina TD 3 yards behind L a Fell

Yep. Troll.