The Seymour situation

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Do you think if Spears leaves next year that there is a chance we bring in Richard Seymour?

The Raiders really screwed up by trading for this guy with a year left on his contract.
 

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Seymour? I've seen enough.

I really don't like the way hes behaving right now even if it is the Raiders. This is not the kind of player this team needs. He is someone who has already won and is only motivated by $contract. Also, I don't think the Patriots would have traded him if they thought he had any long term value.
 

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I guess w/ everything else it depends on the CBA, but Id sign for 5 more years of Marcus Spears

Hes pretty durable too
 

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Come on Seymour is going to resign with the Pats... Bill just stole a 1st rd pick from the old man by lending him Seymour for a yr.
 

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From Adam Schefter's Twitter ------------

Part III: Oakland did not give Seymour a new contract nor a promise not to slap its franchise tag on him after this season.
about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter


Part 2: Seymour is expected to fly to Oakland as early as Saturday and arrive in time to play Monday night against the San Diego Chargers.
about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter


Part I: Just sent to ESPN - Raiders and Richard Seymour are in final stages of planning the holdout DL's arrival in Oakland this weekend.
about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter
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Seymour will get a new deal from them.
 

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Pats weren't going t re-sign him after next year and they just bilked the raiders out of a first for him.:lmao2:
 

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I feel the league should step in and cancel the trade. This just seems iffy.
 

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Hostile;2934265 said:
Terrible idea.

Yep...x2

The Raiders got sucked big time. Seymour isnt worth a 1st rd pick anymore, even thoguh the pick is two yrs out though.
 

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Hypnotoad;2934239 said:
Seymour? I've seen enough.

I really don't like the way hes behaving right now even if it is the Raiders. This is not the kind of player this team needs. He is someone who has already won and is only motivated by $contract. Also, I don't think the Patriots would have traded him if they thought he had any long term value.

oh but he did have long term value.........the Raiders 1st rounder in 2011.....I have a feeling that pick will be helping the Pats for a long time
 

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Biggems;2934418 said:
oh but he did have long term value.........the Raiders 1st rounder in 2011.....I have a feeling that pick will be helping the Pats for a long time

There is only 1 team that would make this move though.
 

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Hypnotoad;2934239 said:
Seymour? I've seen enough.

I really don't like the way hes behaving right now even if it is the Raiders. This is not the kind of player this team needs. He is someone who has already won and is only motivated by $contract. Also, I don't think the Patriots would have traded him if they thought he had any long term value.

:hammer:

And I wish the league could somehow cancel this, too. But I don't think there's any way they can or will do that.
 

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Galian Beast;2934300 said:
if he doesnt report, im sure they dont get the pick...

I dont think this is true. The only thing that would negate the trade is if he flunked a physical.

Otherwise when you trade for a player, you are trading for their rights. The Raiders have Seymour's rights now.
 

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"Blindsided" Seymour says he's "happy"

Posted by Tom Curran on September 12, 2009 10:55 AM ET
Finally, the Seymour speaketh.

In comments to Ron Borges of the Boston Herald, Raiders defensive lineman Richard Seymour shed much-needed light on his feelings about being traded by New England last Sunday morning in exchange for the Raiders 2011 first round pick.

First off, Seymour described himself as "blindsided" when Patriots head coach Bill Belichick called and said, according to Seymour, "We traded your rights to Oakland."

"There are a lot of different emotions," Seymour told Borges. "Football was not my main concern at that point."

The trade was a major shock to Seymour's family system. Deciding how his his wife, four children and a 15-year-old cousin to whom he is guardian would proceed seems to have been a major factor in delaying his arrival in Oakland.

"When you get blindsided, you should take a moment to gather your thoughts," Seymour said. "I have a lot of personal issues more pressing than football."

Seymour acknowledged negotiations about his future with the Raiders have taken place but said he "didn't demand anything to go there."

"I've had discussions with the Raiders ... I'm excited and happy with the way they're looking at me," he said.

He said he plans on playing Monday night against the Chargers and added that, "I'll be the guy on top of the quarterback."
 

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calico;2934298 said:
Pats weren't going t re-sign him after next year and they just bilked the raiders out of a first for him.:lmao2:
Unfortunately that is likely 100% true.
 

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Hypnotoad;2934239 said:
Also, I don't think the Patriots would have traded him if they thought he had any long term value.


The Pats traded him because this was his last year in NE and they weren't going to pay big bucks for him because the DE spot just isn't that vital in a 3-4. He was going to walk anyway, so they gave up 1 year of Seymour in order to get a 1st round pick.

Very smart.

I don't know why more teams don't do that when they know they aren't going to pay the guy in free agency. Tenn could have gotten at least a #1 for Haynesworth last season, but instead they let him play out the last year and then walk for nothing.
 

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CATCH17;2934237 said:
The Raiders really screwed up by trading for this guy with a year left on his contract.

The screw up was the Raiders not talking to Richard Seymour and his agent first before agreeing to make the trade.

Who trades for a player in the final year of a contract without coming to terms on an extension first?

It's just dumb not to.

That is the Raider way.
 

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AsthmaField;2934474 said:
The Pats traded him because this was his last year in NE and they weren't going to pay big bucks for him because the DE spot just isn't that vital in a 3-4. He was going to walk anyway, so they gave up 1 year of Seymour in order to get a 1st round pick.

Very smart.

I don't know why more teams don't do that when they know they aren't going to pay the guy in free agency. Tenn could have gotten at least a #1 for Haynesworth last season, but instead they let him play out the last year and then walk for nothing.

Dallas would do well to heed the Pats strategy when dealing w/players they have no intention of re-signing. Every player has a value, to let one go for nothing is just bad business.
 
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