The start of every Cowboys HC's era is interesting

[Bobhaze]

To be fair there was criticism even in our glory eras as well as gratitude. It should always go both ways.

Fans are more than willing to celebrate their teams success when applicable .

Only in amateur sports should we be more celebratory without more success as in many cases they are our children, neighbors,etc participating and our Alma maters.

Professional sports falls in a sharply different contrast of situation for fans expectations.

I definitely remember tons of criticism being leveled against Landry, Staubach and other Cowboys greats back in those days. And Troy Aikman took a lot of heat too back in the 90s too.

Fans are always scrutinizing their favorite teams. Nothing new there.

 

[Ranching]

To be fair there was criticism even in our glory eras as well as gratitude. It should always go both ways.

Fans are more than willing to celebrate their teams success when applicable .

Only in amateur sports should we be more celebratory without more success as in many cases they are our children, neighbors,etc participating and our Alma maters.

Professional sports falls in a sharply different contrast of situation for fans expectations.

I don't agree...with amateur sports, you know the players, coaches involved. You see the pain, sacrifice and joy up close. You take it personal when some idiot fan is yelling at and chastising your kid, spouse ect. These are adults living vicariously through people they have never met and they don't give a rat's behind what you think. Pro sports is entertainment, amateur sports are part of your life. Seeing your kid come home crying, because they lost, is way more important that whatever the hell Jerry is doing

 

[rags747]

Brian Schottenheimer is now the 10th head coach in Cowboys history. I find it very interesting who was the first player the Cowboys selected in the draft to start each head coach’s era. It’s also very interesting how often those picks ended up being somewhat representative of that head coach’s time in Big D.

FIRST PLAYER SELECTED IN EACH FORMER HC’s FIRST DRAFT

• Tom Landry: Bob Lilly
• Jimmy Johnson: Troy Aikman
• Barry Switzer: Shante Carver
• Chan Gailey: Greg Ellis
• Dave Campo: Dwayne Goodrich
• Bill Parcells: Terence Newman
• Wade Phillips: Anthony Spencer
• Jason Garrett: Tyron Smith
• Mike McCarthy: CeeDee Lamb

The two Hall of Fame head coaches in Cowboys history - Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson - both drafted a future HOF player in their first draft. Landry with the great Bob Lily, and Jimmy with the unbelievably accurate Troy Aikman. Granted, they both benefitted from having the first pick in the draft.

You can also see one of the worst starts to a HC’s era in Dallas with the 2000 draft of Dwayne Goodrich under Dave Campo.

So as the Brian Schottenheimer era begins, it will be interesting to see if begins with the entrance of someone special or not.

Late Edit: Bill Parcells was also a HOF HC who coached the Cowboys. But he earned that from his time in NY and NE, not Dallas.

To be fair Dwayne Goodrich was picked in the 2nd round at #38.

 

[nightrain]

First 34 Years - 2 Head Coaches - 4 Superbowl Championships - 7 NFC Championships
Next 31 Years** - 9 Head Coaches - 1 Superbowl Championship* - 2 NFC Championships*

*Strong argument to be made that this team was built by the 2nd Head Coach
**Through 2024 Season

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Shotty will Notty.

 

[Ranching]

Brian Schottenheimer is now the 10th head coach in Cowboys history. I find it very interesting who was the first player the Cowboys selected in the draft to start each head coach’s era. It’s also very interesting how often those picks ended up being somewhat representative of that head coach’s time in Big D.

FIRST PLAYER SELECTED IN EACH FORMER HC’s FIRST DRAFT

• Tom Landry: Bob Lilly
• Jimmy Johnson: Troy Aikman
• Barry Switzer: Shante Carver
• Chan Gailey: Greg Ellis
• Dave Campo: Dwayne Goodrich
• Bill Parcells: Terence Newman
• Wade Phillips: Anthony Spencer
• Jason Garrett: Tyron Smith
• Mike McCarthy: CeeDee Lamb

The two Hall of Fame head coaches in Cowboys history - Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson - both drafted a future HOF player in their first draft. Landry with the great Bob Lily, and Jimmy with the unbelievably accurate Troy Aikman. Granted, they both benefitted from having the first pick in the draft.

You can also see one of the worst starts to a HC’s era in Dallas with the 2000 draft of Dwayne Goodrich under Dave Campo.

So as the Brian Schottenheimer era begins, it will be interesting to see if begins with the entrance of someone special or not.

Late Edit: Bill Parcells was also a HOF HC who coached the Cowboys. But he earned that from his time in NY and NE, not Dallas.

Lily and Aikman were number 1 picks....Tyron will be in the HOF...does that mean Garrett is in the same league as Landry and Jimmy? I guess Garrett doesn't Suck......nah....Garrett Sucks! Lol

 

[Bobhaze]

To be fair Dwayne Goodrich was picked in the 2nd round at #38.

Right. I was just mentioning the first person taken in each era.

 

[CCBoy]

Lily and Aikman were number 1 picks....Tyron will be in the HOF...does that mean Garrett is in the same league as Landry and Jimmy? I guess Garrett doesn't Suck......nah....Garrett Sucks! Lol

Football family who's strength was Scouting.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't agree...with amateur sports, you know the players, coaches involved. You see the pain, sacrifice and joy up close. You take it personal when some idiot fan is yelling at and chastising your kid, spouse ect. These are adults living vicariously through people they have never met and they don't give a rat's behind what you think. Pro sports is entertainment, amateur sports are part of your life. Seeing your kid come home crying, because they lost, is way more important that whatever the hell Jerry is doing

Of course which also explains why there should be more emotional support attached to Amateur sports. That doesn’t mean there could be some idiot or disrespectful fan in the stands.

Regardless none of this disputes the point I was attempting to make which I think you might have misconstrued.

 

[Diehardblues]

Lily and Aikman were number 1 picks....Tyron will be in the HOF...does that mean Garrett is in the same league as Landry and Jimmy? I guess Garrett doesn't Suck......nah....Garrett Sucks! Lol

Garrett may have suked in some aspects of coaching especially as a field general. But he definitely brought some signs of keen insight in talent and team building which probably suits him more in front office.

And this era despite whatever shortcomings he had in coaching has still came as close to breaking thru this era as many greater coaches. So what does that say about much greater coaches. I’d argue he was well suited in our dysfunctional situation. But like everyone else just too much to overcome .

 

[Ranching]

Of course which also explains why there should be more emotional support attached to Amateur sports. That doesn’t mean there could be some idiot or disrespectful fan in the stands.

Regardless none of this disputes the point I was attempting to make which I think you might have misconstrued.

My point is, how can you expect something if you can’t do anything about it. We all wanna win a SB every year, but it's out of our hands. Pro sport is for entertainment, if you don't enjoy it, why bother? Of course, some enjoy it, win or lose. I enjoy the game, in general. The Cowboys are my favorite team, win or lose. I didn't get paid when we won and I haven't gotten cut, yet.

 

[Diehardblues]

My point is, how can you expect something if you can’t do anything about it. We all wanna win a SB every year, but it's out of our hands. Pro sport is for entertainment, if you don't enjoy it, why bother? Of course, some enjoy it, win or lose. I enjoy the game, in general. The Cowboys are my favorite team, win or lose. I didn't get paid when we won and I haven't gotten cut, yet.

Im not sure why you equate critical thinking with lack of enjoyment.

I love watching Cowboys football win or lose. It’s obviously more fun winning.

I’m a critic at nature whether it’s attending a game, movie or concert. I can still enjoy the entertainment while expressing my disappointments if any.

 

[KJJ]

Carver and Goodrich were mega busts.

 

[Ranching]

Im not sure why you equate critical thinking with lack of enjoyment.

I love watching Cowboys football win or lose. It’s obviously more fun winning.

I’m a critic at nature whether it’s attending a game, movie or concert. I can still enjoy the entertainment while expressing my disappointments if any.

I'm very critical, that's part of my enjoyment...but I let it go. That's all

 

[plasticman]

The Cowboys did not have the benefit of participating in the draft before their inaugural season.

Bob Lilly was the 2nd to last pick in the first round of the 1961 NFL draft. He was pick #13. This was before the NFL-AFL merger. He was also drafted in the 2nd round, #14 overall, in the AFL draft.

In 1961 the expansion Vikings received the first pick in the draft. The Cowboys had traded their #1 draft pick, 2nd overall, to Washington the previous year, for Eddie LeBaron. The Cowboys got the #13 pick in the 1st round from a trade with the Cleveland Browns

 

[TheCritic]

In this draft, I don't see a HOF on the level of a Bob Lilly or Troy Aikman, at least within the #12 pick. At first I thought the Cowboys would be the one to draft Jeanty, but now I believe there will be a team that will trade into the top 7-8 and take him. Not that I want him..too much mileage.

Instead it will be DL, CB or WR who will have a solid career, something like a Greg Ellis type of career. Good but not HOF.

 

[plasticman]

During the time that Tom Landry was HC of the Dallas Cowboys, 134 other head coaches came and went. The OP reminded me of this when he mentioned how quickly the Cowboys went through the next nine.

Tom Landry's career as a Dallas Cowboys HC is longer than the next seven combined.

This is a vicious league, but that is professional sports. You win or you are gone. Longevity belong only to the greats. This is also true of GMs with one exception.

As far as the HC's contribution to drafts are concerned, the most powerful entity for the early years of the Cowboys franchise was a computer. The Cowboys were the first to use one and it took a long time for other teams to catch up.

The Cowboys almost always went with the BPA according to the computer's evaluation score. They did this regardless of perceived needs or present talent at the position.

For example, the 1st round pick in the 1969, 1970 and 1972 draft was a RB. In fact, both the 1st and 2nd round picks in the 1972 draft was a RB.

In the 1964 draft they took 3 QBs.

The formula was programmed by Gil Brandt but based on position profiles created by Landry.

Landry, who majored in civil engineering in college, worked well with Brandt. Landry provided the physical and mental traits he prioritized for each position. Jason Garrett's preference for intelligent O-linemen was based on Landry's profile for the position.

The Cowboys were far ahead of other NFL teams in the area of innovation, not only when it came to scouting. Landry changed the way the game is played. He invented a lot of what we still see today. He also took preparation to a whole new level.

Landry invented the position of Quality Control, a deceptive title for the guy that researches upcoming opponents in regards to tendencies as well as injuries that effect their lineup.

However, the strongest attribute that Landry possessed was always his ability to teach. He was even great at teaching his assistant managers how to teach.

The Cowboys first #1 pick, Bob Lilly is a perfect representative of those times for the Dallas Cowboy's. He really personifies the identity and personality of that team. Lilly was all business, he was never out to inflict physical harm, he wasn't like that. he just did his job really well.

Campo's first daft pick was a 2nd round pick and that also personified the lack of talent during those three years. It wasn't all Campo's fault. Jerry had destroyed the cap with contracts to the triplets as well as Deion Sanders. I also noticed on Hard Knocks that Campo wasn't the most influential voice when it came to talent acquisition.

Today there is nothing new or cutting edge about the team when it comes to acquiring talent and devising new strategies. It is nothing more than a feeble attempt to keep up by copying other team's strategies a few years too late.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Brian Schottenheimer is now the 10th head coach in Cowboys history. I find it very interesting who was the first player the Cowboys selected in the draft to start each head coach’s era. It’s also very interesting how often those picks ended up being somewhat representative of that head coach’s time in Big D.

FIRST PLAYER SELECTED IN EACH FORMER HC’s FIRST DRAFT

• Tom Landry: Bob Lilly
• Jimmy Johnson: Troy Aikman
• Barry Switzer: Shante Carver
• Chan Gailey: Greg Ellis
• Dave Campo: Dwayne Goodrich
• Bill Parcells: Terence Newman
• Wade Phillips: Anthony Spencer
• Jason Garrett: Tyron Smith
• Mike McCarthy: CeeDee Lamb

The two Hall of Fame head coaches in Cowboys history - Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson - both drafted a future HOF player in their first draft. Landry with the great Bob Lily, and Jimmy with the unbelievably accurate Troy Aikman. Granted, they both benefitted from having the first pick in the draft.

You can also see one of the worst starts to a HC’s era in Dallas with the 2000 draft of Dwayne Goodrich under Dave Campo.

So as the Brian Schottenheimer era begins, it will be interesting to see if begins with the entrance of someone special or not.

Late Edit: Bill Parcells was also a HOF HC who coached the Cowboys. But he earned that from his time in NY and NE, not Dallas.

Good analysis as always.
I had forgotten about Anthony Spenser.