The state of Philadelphia

DallasDW00ds0n

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Five more minutes? Lol

If you can't do it during regulation, then you are what you are.

Lol if you walked away from that game on monday and honestly felt that Philly was a bad team and had a bad system despite outscoring them 26-7 in that second half then that's a laugh in itself. I'm not gonna knock them for a slow start week 1 when the Cowboys themselves had a slow start
 

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playing in front of a flawed city of flawed people.

And it's fascinating to watch.


Are not we all, such is life.


It does seem like watching a car wreck, you can't stop it from happening and you can't stop from looking at the same time.


That said Chip has back to back 10-6 seasons and may well have another in 2015, there isn't an easy win for Dallas on the schedule, especially in Philthy.
 

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Lol if you walked away from that game on monday and honestly felt that Philly was a bad team and had a bad system despite outscoring them 26-7 in that second half then that's a laugh in itself. I'm not gonna knock them for a slow start week 1 when the Cowboys themselves had a slow start

I don't give a rat's *** about Philthy and how they started or how they finished. Last I checked, they lost to an inferior opponent. Good teams find a way to win when the chips are down.

We did, they didn't.
 

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In a 16 game season, I'm not so sure there is such a thing as "house money." Even with the injuries the Cowboys are dealing with, I don't see Philly having much of an advantage; this actually levels the playing field. The Eagles don't have a #1 WR, a young and promising pass rusher, a guard like Leary or a corner like Scandrick. So, this will actually be a better barometer for where the Cowboys are at then you may think.

They had two #1 receivers, an All Pro guard and a really good young corner until Chipper cut them or traded them for next to nothing.
 

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They had two #1 receivers, an All Pro guard and a really good young corner until Chipper cut them or traded them for next to nothing.

I'm aware...but the Eagles we are facing Sunday are pretty close to being on par with us...in fact, I'd still give the nod to the Cowboys in terms of talent, even without Dez, Leary, Scandrick, and Gregory.
 

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Good read. To be fair to the running game. They got down in that first half. forget the score, but I think it may have been 3 scores. DM didnt have the yardage, but he did score 2 bringing the team back. Bradford had them rolling in that second half.

And they shouldve won the game. A missed field goal, and a drop pass by a rookie. They probably shouldve won the game. And , we probably should have lost. :) and of course Denver probably shouldve have lost last night!

-- these early games..... can be deceiving.

having said that; The decisions Philly and Chip are making, as you detailed above, are confusing. Even if they luck out and have a good season, the decisions being made right now seem extrememely odd.

I would love to stick it to them this week...... We get a 2 game lead on them, and its going to be very hard for them to catch us.

What is this crap about the Eagles should have won? No they shouldn't have. They missed a FG, partly because they rushed the kicker on to the field because they were in the middle of their hurry up offense and there was confusion. But he still MISSED it. They have a sub par kicker. Guess what, that's part of the game and part of their team. AND even if he had hit it, Atlanta had over 2 minutes to score a FG to win. So, no, sorry, Atlanta deserved to win, they were the better team on Sunday. Period. Point. Blank.

So was Denver. Their defense MADE PLAYS when it matter. Just like Romo and Co., who MADE PLAYS.

Erod's points are very valid. The Eagles style is very hard on their team late in the season. For them to drop early season games HURTS more than most teams.

I think there biggest mistake was changing their two OL Guards. It was Kelly's most egotistical move. OL is essential in any offense, but especially his. And he is acting like the 5 people upfront do not matter.
 

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I completely disagree with Chip about T.O.P. .... I think that's the one part of the game that Romo has milked so many wins with.
 

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I completely disagree with Chip about T.O.P. .... I think that's the one part of the game that Romo has milked so many wins with.
 

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What is this crap about the Eagles should have won? No they shouldn't have. They missed a FG, partly because they rushed the kicker on to the field because they were in the middle of their hurry up offense and there was confusion. But he still MISSED it. They have a sub par kicker. Guess what, that's part of the game and part of their team. AND even if he had hit it, Atlanta had over 2 minutes to score a FG to win. So, no, sorry, Atlanta deserved to win, they were the better team on Sunday. Period. Point. Blank.

So was Denver. Their defense MADE PLAYS when it matter. Just like Romo and Co., who MADE PLAYS.

Erod's points are very valid. The Eagles style is very hard on their team late in the season. For them to drop early season games HURTS more than most teams.

I think there biggest mistake was changing their two OL Guards. It was Kelly's most egotistical move. OL is essential in any offense, but especially his. And he is acting like the 5 people upfront do not matter.

alrighty then......................................................
 

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I do not understand whatsoever getting rid of Jackson and Maclin.

If those 2 were playing on Sunday I know I would be worried. I only fear 2 of there players now, Demarco and Cox.
 

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I've had this big question mark on my face all offseason when it comes to the Eagles. Just what in the Sam Hill are they - meaning Chip - doing? None of these moves make sense to me.

The Eagles are an enigma wrapped in a puzzle. Occasional moments of brilliance are fogged over with frequent bouts of ridiculousness.

First off, Chip is hamstrung. He DESPERATELY needs a quarterback that can run for his offense to work. Foles couldn't do it, Sanchez couldn't do it, and Bradford definitely can't do it. It's little wonder why he was basically offering the Liberty Bell for Mariotta. Defenses don't even have to acknowledge the read option fake at all; in fact, it kind of makes it open season on Bradford.

Then, he goes and signs Demarco Murray, a downhill runner custom built for lining up seven yards behind the line of scrimmage. Lesean McCoy was successful because he could make quick, scat-back moves in the backfield and cut upfield. Elusiveness is the key to running from the shotgun sidekick formation, especially as close as Chip lines his QB up to the line of scrimmage. Murray doesn't have that ability, and Matthews only slightly more. Sproles is the best option here, other than the guy Chip sent to Buffalo.

Philly had a decent option as a nickel slot cover guy in Boykin. Then, Chip traded him for a box of jelly beans and watched his corners go down in camp. Now, they have almost nobody to mark Beasley in the slot, or Escobar, or anybody. It was a strange move.

Then, he ran off a good guard in Mathis, and if you watched the Eagles play on Monday, their offensive line didn't look good at all. Murray and Matthews combined for 13 whole yards rushing. Wow.

Add to this the dismantling of the receiving corps from Jackson and Maclin, a tandem that had big days against Dallas. He just replaced them with lesser versions of the same. Small, quick guys that aren't as good as Jackson or Maclin (although Jordan Matthews shows promise).

Add to all this Chip's bizarre insistence of playing every game in breakneck fashion. It tires defenses, yes. BOTH defenses. And it adds miles and wear and tear on his own team as they play 20 percent more plays each season. That's the same as 2-3 more games. I wonder if and when the NFLPA starts complaining about it, and in fact, if it starts to affect free agents' willingness to play there. It did seem to factor in Frank Gore's decision to back out.

I sense an uneasy panic in Philly, and if Dallas pulls this out on Sunday like I think they will, it could get really ugly up there. That "amazing" preseason offensive display stoked the flames of media and Eagle fan alike, and it may serve to set them up for a thunderous crash early this season.

That's a flawed franchise with a flawed coach, a flawed scheme, and a flawed roster, playing in front of a flawed city of flawed people.

And it's fascinating to watch.

Maybe Chip really works for Jerry, and it's all part of the process.. :))))))
 

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Sunday won't say much unless Dallas wins. Philly is healthy, Dallas isn't. Philly is at home. Philly is the desperate team at this point.

Dallas is playing with house money.

Not sure desperation is the correct word to use in week 2.
 

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I think the Cowboys have a chance to play without a lot of pressure because no one expects them to win this week with all of their injuries. I like that spot better than the Eagles who face a lot of backlash if they lose to a hobbled Cowboys team at home. Without Dez, Hardy, Scandrick, Gregory and McClain the Cowboys are in survival mode. Funny how many people thought the Eagles were better even with all of those guys playing.
 

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Erod:

Philadelphia is not a state, it is a city.

:p

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I've had this big question mark on my face all offseason when it comes to the Eagles. Just what in the Sam Hill are they - meaning Chip - doing? None of these moves make sense to me.

The Eagles are an enigma wrapped in a puzzle. Occasional moments of brilliance are fogged over with frequent bouts of ridiculousness.

First off, Chip is hamstrung. He DESPERATELY needs a quarterback that can run for his offense to work. Foles couldn't do it, Sanchez couldn't do it, and Bradford definitely can't do it. It's little wonder why he was basically offering the Liberty Bell for Mariotta. Defenses don't even have to acknowledge the read option fake at all; in fact, it kind of makes it open season on Bradford.

Then, he goes and signs Demarco Murray, a downhill runner custom built for lining up seven yards behind the line of scrimmage. Lesean McCoy was successful because he could make quick, scat-back moves in the backfield and cut upfield. Elusiveness is the key to running from the shotgun sidekick formation, especially as close as Chip lines his QB up to the line of scrimmage. Murray doesn't have that ability, and Matthews only slightly more. Sproles is the best option here, other than the guy Chip sent to Buffalo.

Philly had a decent option as a nickel slot cover guy in Boykin. Then, Chip traded him for a box of jelly beans and watched his corners go down in camp. Now, they have almost nobody to mark Beasley in the slot, or Escobar, or anybody. It was a strange move.

Then, he ran off a good guard in Mathis, and if you watched the Eagles play on Monday, their offensive line didn't look good at all. Murray and Matthews combined for 13 whole yards rushing. Wow.

Add to this the dismantling of the receiving corps from Jackson and Maclin, a tandem that had big days against Dallas. He just replaced them with lesser versions of the same. Small, quick guys that aren't as good as Jackson or Maclin (although Jordan Matthews shows promise).

Add to all this Chip's bizarre insistence of playing every game in breakneck fashion. It tires defenses, yes. BOTH defenses. And it adds miles and wear and tear on his own team as they play 20 percent more plays each season. That's the same as 2-3 more games. I wonder if and when the NFLPA starts complaining about it, and in fact, if it starts to affect free agents' willingness to play there. It did seem to factor in Frank Gore's decision to back out.

I sense an uneasy panic in Philly, and if Dallas pulls this out on Sunday like I think they will, it could get really ugly up there. That "amazing" preseason offensive display stoked the flames of media and Eagle fan alike, and it may serve to set them up for a thunderous crash early this season.

That's a flawed franchise with a flawed coach, a flawed scheme, and a flawed roster, playing in front of a flawed city of flawed people.

And it's fascinating to watch.

A lot you got wrong here.

Chip doesn't prefer a rb who dances. He wants a one cut runner. Aka Murray and Mathews. Also known as not McCoy.

Chip doesn't prefer small quick receivers. He wants bigger wrs. Matthews is 6'3 and their first rounder Nelson is 6'0.

Chip let Evan Mathias walk when he cut him. He then proceeded to sit on the street for over a month before Denver gave him a look. He is now getting Peyton Manning killed.

This is a flawed post with some flawed premises, some flawed research and some flawed analysis.
 

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Chip Kelly's an idiot. Any team could line up and use a short passing game in a hurry up offense and have bursts of success. No team can sustain that over long periods, though, and it kills your defense, so no one else does it with regularity. It's exciting to watch, and it'll always have flashes of success, but there's nothing novel about it -- it's a rejected philosophy that's been proven not to work in the NFL.
 
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