The thing I like about the Bryant and Lee picks

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This is the first time we picked the best player avialble instead of need. Remember in the 95 draft if i'm correct we passed on Derrick Brooks because it wasn't a need and drafted Sherman Williams and tight end Kendall Watkins. Barry Switzer refered to Sherman as the insurance policy and look what need got us here.

Look at Bill Parcells when he drafted Bobby Carpetner as his first round pick for need. The best player availble looking back on that draft and knowing Parcells thinking is I'm guessing Nick Mangold. He went I think 28th but you know draft boards vary. We have Gurode at the time but tell me who would be paying more dividens now on our roster. We could of slid Gurode out to guard and have Kosier be our first alternate. In addition, Carp was the 5th LB taking that draft with Hawk, Wimbley, Sims and Greenway. If someone wanted an Olineman the same could of been said this year about drafting a tackle as it was linebacker in 06, we would of recieved the 5th best tackle. It doesn't work out drafting for need unless your top 5-10.

Look at the year we passed on Steven Jackson. We ended up getting Julius Jones and Marcus Spears(I beileve it was the Spears pick and not the Ware.) Both are avearge players in the league while Steven Jackson is a 1500 and 15tds a year guy. Again, avoiding the best player.

This is the first year now we have drafted the best player regardless of poistion. This is how I would draft every year. If we would of drafted DE Jared Odrick do you think he will ever amount to more than Spears? I dont. Or, if we drafted Roger Safford as the 5th best OT in the draft do you think he is a gimmie player? I dont think so.

I don't know what it is but when you look at Dez Bryant you can just see as Jon Gruden said "He's a bad man." He straight up looks like a player in street clothes let alone in pads. You cant say that about many players. 19 tds in 08 any questions? That tells me that this player is too good for the league he is playing in. You cant say that about many players. Moss at Marshall, Reggie Bush at USC, APeterson at OU, etc. I would be shocked if he is a bust. At best we have a recieving core like the 98 Vikes Reed, Carter and Moss. At worst I think we have one like the 06 Bengals in Chad, Tj Housh and Chris Henry.

And this Lee guy I had no idea who he was until right after we picked him I had all my Penn St. friends text me and say he is going to torment the Eagles throughout his career. I live in Philly btw. Another guy just looks like a football player who eats, drinks and sleeps it. Watching him run at the combine you can straight tell he is an athlete. If it wasnt for his knee injury in 08 I heard he was in line to be a top 10 pick in the mold of Aj Hawk. The knee scared teams away but from what I hear the second year after acl surgey you should be back to 100 percent. We might have a steal there. As for the other picks you cant say anything good or bad about 3rd and on because no one knows how they will turn out. Again, I like the philosphy change.
 
The thing I liked about the Bryant and Lee picks are they are two of the four players (Iupati, Pouncey other two) that I would have been happy with if we took them at 27.

So we got Lee, a guy I would have been happy with in the first . . . in the 2nd.

Gotta love that.
 
Z mann R2;3375309 said:
elaborate

In 2002, Roy Williams, Antonio Bryant, Derek Ross and Pete Hunter were all the BPA on the Cowboys' board. Some of the later picks that year might have been, too.

The only two years when we know what most of the Cowboys' draft board looked like are 2002 and 2010, and we drafted the BPA with almost every pick. I'm guessing it's been that way every year in the past decade or so, but because fans don't have a clue what the board looks like most of the time, they think we're reaching instead of taking our BPA.
 
Ugh. Derek Ross.

5 picks his rookie year . . . to being out of the league.

What a knucklehead.
 
should only take BPA if you are a contender with no big holes--we are now as we were in the Landry and JJ years when we took the BPA
 
AdamJT13;3375539 said:
In 2002, Roy Williams, Antonio Bryant, Derek Ross and Pete Hunter were all the BPA on the Cowboys' board. Some of the later picks that year might have been, too.

The only two years when we know what most of the Cowboys' draft board looked like are 2002 and 2010, and we drafted the BPA with almost every pick. I'm guessing it's been that way every year in the past decade or so, but because fans don't have a clue what the board looks like most of the time, they think we're reaching instead of taking our BPA.

One thing Jerry talked about changing how we would draft. I do think Dallas put more of a premium on need in many of the past drafts over getting top players regardless of position. I think there is a fine line of getting BPA that fills need and just looking at player because of the position he plays.
 
HoosierCowboy;3375547 said:
should only take BPA if you are a contender with no big holes--we are now as we were in the Landry and JJ years when we took the BPA

taking a position just for the sake of the position can be just as harmful. As much movement that takes place in the NFL now days drafting a position that does not look like need today can change quickly the following year.
 
Doomsday101;3375555 said:
One thing Jerry talked about changing how we would draft. I do think Dallas put more of a premium on need in many of the past drafts over getting top players regardless of position. I think there is a fine line of getting BPA that fills need and just looking at player because of the position he plays.

He talked about changing how they determine BPA: by focussing more on the opinion of scouts and less on the opinions of coaches. But he was also talking generally, and about a general shift rather than anything unique to this year. Nothing about that implied a shift towards overdrafting players based on positions of need.
 
Adam, disagree if I understand what your saying, in 06 if four linebackers are already taken in the first 18 picks I dont see how the 5th linebacker would be the BPA at that time on our board.
 
playmakers;3376344 said:
Adam, disagree if I understand what your saying, in 06 if four linebackers are already taken in the first 18 picks I dont see how the 5th linebacker would be the BPA at that time on our board.

Like I said, you don't know what the board looked like, so you don't know whether Carpenter was the BPA. Maybe we can go back and find quotes from after the draft that might tell us, but it's very possible that Carpenter was the BPA on our board. Just because he was the fifth linebacker taken, that doesn't mean he was the fifth linebacker on OUR board. Chad Greenway was more of a 4-3 outside linebacker, and Ernie Sims is much smaller than Parcells likes his linebackers. AJ Hawk and Kamerion Wimbley might have been higher, but there's nothing to say we couldn't have three linebackers in our top 18. We had four THIS year, with a fifth linebacker ranked No. 20.
 
I doubt either player even makes the roster. They are both wannabe's.

Besides, there is no room for them. The Cowboys are all set.
 
AdamJT13;3376536 said:
Like I said, you don't know what the board looked like, so you don't know whether Carpenter was the BPA. Maybe we can go back and find quotes from after the draft that might tell us, but it's very possible that Carpenter was the BPA on our board. Just because he was the fifth linebacker taken, that doesn't mean he was the fifth linebacker on OUR board. Chad Greenway was more of a 4-3 outside linebacker, and Ernie Sims is much smaller than Parcells likes his linebackers. AJ Hawk and Kamerion Wimbley might have been higher, but there's nothing to say we couldn't have three linebackers in our top 18. We had four THIS year, with a fifth linebacker ranked No. 20.


Fair enough.
 
BPA works some times but not every time. Its about balance, you can not draft simply by BPA and you can not draft simply straight by need. You have to look at both and then come to a conclusion. Drafting completely 1 way or another leads to problems.
 
HoleInTheRoof;3375541 said:
Ugh. Derek Ross.

5 picks his rookie year . . . to being out of the league.

What a knucklehead.

He had the talent to be a shutdown CB but couldn't keep his head on straight... Damn shame.
 
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