The Tiki "meter" is rising again in NY

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Tiki Barber complained about his recent use in the offense Wednesday.

"I felt insignificant for the first time in this season, and it was frustrating ... I think you put yourself halfway to failure when you say we can’t do something because of another team’s personnel. It’s a slap in the face of me, it’s a slap in the face of my front five guys. We don’t take to that very kindly... This isn’t rocket science. It’s football." The next Giants broadcast will probably be too busy building flowery Tiki career montages to mention that he sells out his coaches as much as anyone in football. After all, he and Ronde are the sexiest twins of the year!

Source: New York Daily News
 

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Gryphon;1181549 said:
Tiki Barber complained about his recent use in the offense Wednesday.

"I felt insignificant for the first time in this season, and it was frustrating ... I think you put yourself halfway to failure when you say we can’t do something because of another team’s personnel. It’s a slap in the face of me, it’s a slap in the face of my front five guys. We don’t take to that very kindly... This isn’t rocket science. It’s football." The next Giants broadcast will probably be too busy building flowery Tiki career montages to mention that he sells out his coaches as much as anyone in football. After all, he and Ronde are the sexiest twins of the year!

Source: New York Daily News

He's right. Manning was awfull, they should have forced the run to take the pressure off. I'm not complaining though.:D
 

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As expected, coach Tom Coughlin said Tuesday that he's not considering benching QB Eli Manning.

As fun as it might be to see the Hefty Lefty in action, it's not like Coughlin coul realistically turn to QB Jared Lorenzen. And his other option is Tim "The View" Hasselbeck, which is the same story. "I think what we have to do is get the improvement, get Eli back on track," Coughlin said.

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He's a cocky SOB, that is somewhat painful to listen to on the radio.
 

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Gryphon;1181555 said:
"I think what we have to do is get the improvement, get Eli back on track," Coughlin said.
You just keep thinkin' Butch. That's what yer good at.:D
 

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We need to KICK their *** BIG TIME. I only hope that Romo really puts on a display Dec 3, give them something to remember.

The defense needs to put some woop *** on Manning as well. Can't wait.
 

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Barber upset with lack of carries last week
NFL.com wire reports

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (Nov. 22, 2006) -- A frustrated Tiki Barber criticized the New York Giants' play calling, saying abandoning the running game against Jacksonville was a slap in his face and a sure way to lose more games.

The mild blowup from Barber came two days after the Giants (6-4) called only 14 running plays in a 26-10 loss to the Jaguars.

Barber, whose 998 yards rushing are fourth in the NFL, got a season-low 10 carries for 27 yards. He spent most of the second half blocking as Eli Manning threw 27 of his 41 passes.

"We have to find a way to correct it," Barber said. "That's the bottom line. I talked about this earlier in the season; if you don't have balance you can't win in the NFL. A disproportionate amount of teams that win, win it by running the football.

"That's football," Barber added. "It's not complicated. This is something that teams and kids and coaches do from 12 years old to college and beyond. It isn't rocket science."

This is the second time Barber has had issues with the coaching staff. After New York was shut out by Carolina in the playoffs last year, he said the team was outcoached.

Barber had not spoken with either coach Tom Coughlin or offensive coordinator John Hufnagel by noon on Nov. 22, but he relayed his concerns to running backs coach Jerald Ingram. He expected his message to be passed along.

Coughlin had already spoken with the media before Barber's comments. He was not available for further comment. Giants assistant coaches speak to the media about four times a year. This was not one of those days.

Barber readily admits the Giants did nothing on the ground in the first half against Jacksonville, whose interior line is anchored by big tackles Marcus Stroud and John Henderson. New York rushed seven times for 14 yards.

However, he felt Hufnagel should have kept on calling the run instead of switching to an uptempo, two-minute offense with New York down a touchdown.

"Yeah, it's a challenge, but we are not scared of anyone," Barber said. "We have played against the best defenses in this league, against the run and overall, and we've run the ball. We've done effective things. We have executed in the pass game.

"So I think you put yourself halfway to failure to say we can't do something because of another team's personnel," Barber said. "It's a slap in the face of me and a slap of my front five guys. We don't take to that very kindly."

Barber said there is never a reason for the Giants to get away from their running game. It's been their strength for years and, when it works, has the added benefit of keeping New York's defense off the field and taking the pressure off Manning, who has been horrible the past two games.

One thing Barber's complaints did was take Manning off the hot seat. He was surrounded by about two dozen members of the media before Barber spoke, but it seemed much of what he said went unnoticed.

"I have faith in Eli," Barber said. "I think he will find a way to correct the mistakes he has been making. He can shore up his mechanics and become the leader we saw earlier this season. I really do believe that."

Barber would also like to believe the Giants will get back to what they do best.

If the coaching staff had any doubts about sticking with the run, Barber said they should watch the San Diego Chargers. Even when they are trailing, they use a balanced attack.

"We got away from it early and never got back to it because we felt like we weren't executing or finding any type of rhythm, but we never got back to it," Barber said. "I felt insignificant for the first time in my career -- I should say this season -- and it was frustrating."

With six regular-season games left in his career, Barber said he isn't looking for anything special. All he wants to do is contribute and win.

"I am not here to be a cheerleader, someone who fades into the background," said Barber, who rushed for a career-high 1,860 yards last season, second best in the league. "My job is to help this team win. The opportunities I get will dictate that."

"If it gets to the point where I feel I am not doing anything, than normally our team is in trouble."
 

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man they whine to much. between tiki,shockey,plaxiglass. they should just call themselves the new york whiners or cry babies
 

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I love how the article describes it as a minor dust up. Imagine the reaction if Owens said, give me the ball more, oh yeah that happened already and he was a disruptive force.
 

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Has anybody noticed that our Cowboy players (except for TO) don't whine. You never hear MBIII or JJ complain about not getting enough carries; about our WRs not getting enough passes thrown to them, etc. Everybody does their job and leaves it to the coaching staff to game plan the strategy. If the team disagrees with it, you don't hear them publicly put the coaching staff/Parcells does. Of course Parcells routinely evenly distributes the *** ad run ratio. I just think our guys have a different agenda; it's all about the team and we don't diss each other or our coaching staff (TO exception). Maybe they knew Parcells won't tolerate that & they have too much respect for him.
 

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It's clear Giant players never think twice before throwing their coach under the bus. How many times does this make?

I wonder about the chemistry with that team. I don't picture a bunch of guys that are buddy buddy having beers together after the game.

Seems like a bunch of guys moving in different directions to me especially offensively with no leader in sight. It obviously is not their coach ... noone on the team respects him ... that's a problem.
 

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Giants fans take on their team: Dear Coach Coughlin, We Giants fans want "Smashmouth" Football. : gmanjoe : 11/22/06 7:26 PM

Remember when you were here the first time the Coach won a few Superbowl's with this strategy. We are tired of the 70s Al Davis style vertical passing game. We think its clever but does not play to the strength of this team. You have two very good TEs a right side of a offensive line that can mangle defenses. Please stop with the pro set offense and go to the 2 TE offense only. You also have Seubert who is a more than capable blocking TE. You have two maybe three good runners in Barber,Jacobs,Ward. Your fullback can run block with the best of them. You have one good WR and a Young QB. think of how good Eli would be in 3r and 3 instead of 3rd and 18. he can also play fake the ball with the best of them. Think about a defense that is stacked against the run on 2-6 and Shockey getting man on man with a lb. or Plax in the flat. This team needs you to adjust to its strengths. Please have the courage to understand what your team does best and do it. Winning is what builds your rep not how nifty you are at doing it. ask mike martz. Just line it up and Smash it down their throat every week and we will go far into the playoffs. Please consider this.
 

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I think Tiki just needs to stop talking

1st it was announcing the retirement, then now this venting, when it should be done behind closed doors, going to the media solves nothing, cuz they can't do a darn thing about it, it serves no purpose
 

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We shouldn't say too much about elli. I think he's doing a good job for his second year.
I'd play him and let him work out of this slump. He's not going to learn sitting on the bench.
T.Coughlin your doing it right ,don't listen to the media or fans ,they don't know as much as you about your team.

elli is the man, and your right to keep playing him. Let him throw ,thats the only way he'll learn.:bow:



























i hear gint fans listen in on this forum.worse thing we could do is lose elli.he's our best weapon.:lmao:
 
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