The Tony Romo Thread

[Alexander]

have your seen Witten so mad - he was hot

Saw that, not really certain what had him that way.

 

[tyke1doe]

Blaming receivers is weak and a cop out. You don't need great receivers when you have a great offensive system. Which is what this team is lacking other than a defense, which is obvious. Receivers are icing, the qb and scheme are the cake.

With all due respect, your statement is ridiculous. If running routes and getting open is not important to a receiver, then the NFL would just draft 6'5 and taller receivers and just have them run in the middle of the field and catch jump balls on every passing play.

No, you need receivers who can run precise routes and get open. It doesn't really matter what system you have. How/why do you think Steve Largent excelled in the NFL or Ricky Proehl or Jason Witten for that matter, receivers and tight ends not known for their speed? They excelled because they were GREAT route runners.

All receivers can't run good routes. And when I watched the game last night, from the perspective I saw, T. Williams couldn't get open. I'm sorry. But a receiver with his speed should be able to get open if he runs crisp routes. No, it's not a cop out or weak. It is a fundamental concept in understanding the wide receiver position and how important a receiver being in the right spot is to the passing offense.

 

[Boyz981]

Another big game, another game that Romo doesn't show up for... no surprise.

The team didn't show up not just Romo! LOL

 

[Boyz981]

[quCote="Floaty, post: 5826467, member: 16091"]Yup....Agreed

All too familiar. This loss really has cemented it for me. The Tony Romo era just needs to come to an end.

1. He can't withstand the punishment of a season.

2. Just doesn't have the arm strength to push the ball down field.

3. CBs just don't fear him knowing they can't be beat deep.

4. No longer runs from the pocket for 1st downs.

5. Doesn't see the field....pre-determines his throws...locks on to receivers.

Should I continue?????? I think people get the point......It's time to move on[/quote]

LOL... sorry folks this was a TEAM loss.... everyone pinning this on only Romo, is just clueless. But I did see Tony miss a couple of tackles!

 

[NumOneQB]

Lots of blame to go around, not just on Romo. However, I do agree with others that Romo is physically limited and it's all due to his back. Romo had an average arm at best but now it's pretty obvious that zip is gone. His mobility has gone the way of Garrett's head coaching responsibilities.

 

[tyke1doe]

i agree with this mostly.

tony cant close his eyes and air it up and have a WR come down with it like eli. shoot, our WR's will stand there and watch someone pick the ball out of the air and not even try and knock it down.

i think it comes down to he cant trust his WR's. its why he goes to witten often and easily.

I believe this too. I think there's a background story that we're not privy too as fans. I think Dez is a great talent. But I don't think Dez runs the right routes all the time.
Same with T. Williams. Witten does, but he's never been fleet of feet so he's not going to be open all the time.

And I think Romo is sensitive to throwing interceptions so he's not going to take chances, unless the game is out of hand like yesterday.

 

[tyke1doe]

LOL... sorry folks this was a TEAM loss.... everyone pinning this on only Romo, is just clueless. But I did see Tony miss a couple of tackles!

I saw him stop on a few routes too.

 

[fifaguy]

Saw that, not really certain what had him that way.

Pretty sure he was frustrated with the poorly executed passing game...

 

[Sarge]

The OL played poorly but Romo's arm looked weak for some reason yesterday. Off target and a lot of under thrown passes.

 

[ufcrules1]

Well, I guess we'll have to see the video that gives a perspective of the entire field. My point is Romo was given an insane amount of time in the Giants game, and he completes passes. He was given an insane amount of time in the Eagles game, but he doesn't find a receiver open.Seeing how he has done it before, I don't think it's a matter of him not being able to find open receivers. I think it's more a matter of his receivers weren't getting separation.

Ok, I see what you're saying. At least we can both agree that he was afforded the time to throw most of the time and either couldn't find an open receiver or the receivers weren't getting open. We both know his passes were off all day too and that is on him.

Well, I believe time is running out. I think his window of opportunity is this year and maybe next year. I just don't think with his age he's going to be able to hold up.

Yeah, I agree. Our team is going to have to truly rebuild and in doing that we are going to more than likely suck for a while like the 49'ers and Seattle did a while back. We have to get away from over paying vets like we have done in the past. The problem is Jerry always wants to be relevant and tries to keep patching the problem so we stay competitive but never remotely good enough to go anywhere.. or heck, even make the playoffs. We should have never given up a 3rd rounder for Lawrence, we desperately needed more players on defense but he wanted to rush to fill that RDE position because we let Ware walk. We didn't have to rush to fill that position, we may not have got Lawrence but we would have gotten a player at his caliber level for defense and also got a 3rd rounder as well.

Our team continues to suck year after year because of Jerry. We never truly rebuild.

 

[perrykemp]

On the game winning drive Romo had an insane amount of time to throw the ball against the Giants and that simply isn't normal. Also, it took him most of that time to find someone. He wasn't afforded the same ridiculous amount of time today but he did still have plenty of time to throw and had a horrible game.

Romo is turning into a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get. But one thing I can assure we will never get with him as the QB is a super bowl. It takes consistency at the QB level in big games to adance these days and he will nevet give is that. Time to move on.

+1 for working in the Forest Gump reference.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

3rd best QB in the league this year ratings wise after 12 games, with an 8-3 record... yep totally need to replace our QB, not our secondary.

Seriously.

Draft a QQ because Tony is no spring chicken anymore but NOT because he's not a quality player. Green Bay drafted Rodgers when Favre was playing well and let him learn the pro game. Smart.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

Ok, I see what you're saying. At least we can both agree that he was afforded the time to throw most of the time and either couldn't find an open receiver or the receivers weren't getting open. We both know his passes were off all day too and that is on him.



Yeah, I agree. Our team is going to have to truly rebuild and in doing that we are going to more than likely suck for a while like the 49'ers and Seattle did a while back. We have to get away from over paying vets like we have done in the past. The problem is Jerry always wants to be relevant and tries to keep patching the problem so we stay competitive but never remotely good enough to go anywhere.. or heck, even make the playoffs. We should have never given up a 3rd rounder for Lawrence, we desperately needed more players on defense but he wanted to rush to feel that RDE position because we let Ware walk. We didn't have to rush to fill that position, we may not have got Lawrence but we would have gotten a player at his caliber level for defense and also got a 3rd rounder as well.

Our team continues to suck year after year because of Jerry. We never truly rebuild.

Yeah, we are 8 - 4 with a defense most thought would be dead last in the league. We TOTALLY suck.

It was ONE bad game against an offense that executes plays so fast that we didn't know where to line up in time. Fix THAT, and we don't get so far behind that we abandon our game planning.

Draft defense, which everyone knows we must do, and plan to play against their insanely fast execution, and we're good.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

I've seen romo play much much worse. Everyone around him sucked. Including the coaches. The oline was bad. This doesn't even make the top ten of bad romo games. This was a team loss.

Exactly.

 

[ufcrules1]

That game yesterday was not all on Romo. Anyone saying it was all his fault is wrong. Romo did have a bad game but our defense had a really bad game too, and the play calling was bad as well. It was certainly a team loss.

We all knew Philly was going to score on our defense, Dallas knew this too. We had no way to come back after they got up, we kept trying the running game but there wasn't enough time. The only way we had a chance was to successfully pass the ball and we couldn't do it. In fact we looked clueless trying it. We try the same game plan on every team and you can't do that. I would like to know our record over the last 3 years against teams that are .500 and above. I bet it isn't pretty.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, I had hopes for this team this year, particularly with the way the offensive line is playing. But I still look at patterns. And the pattern with this franchise is that it only has one playoff win in nearly 20 years. And the constant figure during that time span is Jerry Jones.

Seriously.

Draft a QQ because Tony is no spring chicken anymore but NOT because he's not a quality player. Green Bay drafted Rodgers when Favre was playing well and let him learn the pro game. Smart.

I know the board will likely explode if this happens, but I hope Jameis Winston's problems keep him from being taken high, and he's there when we pick. He is a game changer and has a competitive streak that's out of his world. My saying about Jameis is a team's going to either regret taking him or regret not taking him. I'd take the chance.

 

[ufcrules1]

Yeah, we are 8 - 4 with a defense most thought would be dead last in the league. We TOTALLY suck.

It was ONE bad game against an offense that executes plays so fast that we didn't know where to line up in time. Fix THAT, and we don't get so far behind that we abandon our game planning.

Draft defense, which everyone knows we must do, and plan to play against their insanely fast execution, and we're good.

We are 8-4 now but where will we end up? The way it looks now is we will not be making the playoffs for the 5th straight year. The Eagles just steam rolled us in our own house. We knew before we played them what type of offense they use and we had no answer for it. I seriously doubt we can beat Philly in their house. They have the perfect recipe to beat us, get ahead early and make Dallas get away from running the ball and be forced to throw it.

 

[tyke1doe]

That game yesterday was not all on Romo. Anyone saying it was all his fault is wrong. Romo did have a bad game but our defense had a really bad game too, and the play calling was bad as well. It was certainly a team loss.

We all knew Philly was going to score on our defense, Dallas knew this too. We had no way to come back after they got up, we kept trying the running game but there wasn't enough time. The only way we had a chance was to successfully pass the ball and we couldn't do it. In fact we looked clueless trying it. We try the same game plan on every team and you can't do that. I would like to know our record over the last 3 years against teams that are .500 and above. I bet it isn't pretty.

I don't know whether it's the team or the personnel, particularly if you don't have a HoF roster, but I think it's difficult for teams/players to change offensive schemes. We used to be a passing team. We've now morphed into a running team. I think we're so accustomed to running the ball, it seems we're uncomfortable throwing it.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

We are 8-4 now but where will we end up? The way it looks now is we will not be making the playoffs for the 5th straight year. The Eagles just steam rolled us in our own house. We knew before we played them what type of offense they use and we had no answer for it. I seriously doubt we can beat Philly in their house. They have the perfect recipe to beat us, get ahead early and make Dallas get away from running the ball and be forced to throw it.

I agree. I'm doubtful we can game plan for Philly in 2 weeks and win. It's a more long term fix we need (draft defense). Even with the loss we are ahead for a wild card shot. I think we win 2 maybe 3 of our final games. 10-6 seems likely and we get in behind Philly.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

I don't know whether it's the team or the personnel, particularly if you don't have a HoF roster, but I think it's difficult for teams/players to change offensive schemes. We used to be a passing team. We've now morphed into a running team. I think we're so accustomed to running the ball, it seems we're uncomfortable throwing it.

I say we used to be a passing team and now we are a BALANCED team. Replace Leary at LG and spend the rest of the draft on defense. That is assuming we keep Murray and Dez. If not...gotta replace them as well.