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firehawk350;2105723 said:
Most overhyped run I've ever heard of. Do you forget the only reason why he had to avoid all those players to avoid the safety is because he allowed himself to be pushed back there to begin with? There are no doubt some great players (though most of them aren't expected to last more than 2-3 years, and that's being generous) on the Pats, but cmon 2 yards and you can't wait to bust out the knee pads...

go look at the run again the entire left side of the line gets pushed back in his face right off the snap, he takes the first hit after only a few steps he has no forward momentum at this point and he breaks the first tackle and then continues to break 5 more and gain positive yards. Only a skins fan can find a negative to blame the RB for on that play :rolleyes:
 

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firehawk350;2105675 said:
It isn't sour grapes, it's pure incredulity that Portis is even ranked 9th. It must be purely because scouts inc likes his characters. Who cares if he's like 2nd or 3rd among active running backs in total career yardage? Who cares if he ranks in the top-5 in every major statistical category except rushing yards (6th) and top-3 in a couple of those (total yards from scrimmage and rushing TDs if my memory serves). There's no way he's a top-10 running back... It's gotta just be because Scouts liked his characters. I mean, DIDN'T YOU SEE THAT 2 YARD RUN THAT BARBER HAD AGAINST THE PATS??? He dodged like 10 defenders to avoid the safety (that he wouldn't have been in the position to get if he didn't keep doing his hop backwards, but let's not get caught up in details here)!
Of course I saw that run. Beautiful wasn't it?

I smell grapes though. Sour ones.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2105783 said:
let's lick his tears guys

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Vintage;2105757 said:
Well, Barber is 8th and Portis is 9th.

So it would be YOU who would have to throw in something.
Good point... I bet that's how all trades go down.

Dan: Okay, I got Portis who's ranked 9th overall, but has +20 hit points and deals +3 damage with his yellow cleats...
Jerry: Well, there's Marion Barber whose ranked 8th overall and has the gauntlet of the righteous stiff-arm... You'll have to throw in at least a 7th round pick and Santana's Moss' shoes of fire which gives him +2 speed when playing against Roy Williams.

And I'm not saying he's to blame or it was a bad play, but I never seen such a reaction over a two yard gain. OMG, look at those 2 yards! Like LOLz, how kewl wuz that?!
 

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firehawk350;2105723 said:
Most overhyped run I've ever heard of. Do you forget the only reason why he had to avoid all those players to avoid the safety is because he allowed himself to be pushed back there to begin with? There are no doubt some great players (though most of them aren't expected to last more than 2-3 years, and that's being generous) on the Pats, but cmon 2 yards and you can't wait to bust out the knee pads...

I was going to provide a little insight on this play but decided not to because it wouldn't do an ounce of good to change your mind about how it was all Marions fault to begin with.
 

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Hostile;2105780 said:
Of course I saw that run. Beautiful wasn't it?

I smell grapes though. Sour ones.
Hey, maybe if you find another way to say sour grapes, it might be funny this time...

Anyways, you act like this list is the end-all, be-all... How about this, you keep your media accolades and I'll take the production.
 

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firehawk350;2105809 said:
And I'm not saying he's to blame or it was a bad play, but I never seen such a reaction over a two yard gain. OMG, look at those 2 yards! Like LOLz, how kewl wuz that?!

that run was impressive

just as impressive as Romo's 4 or so yard scramble, that was actually 30+, when he should have just fallen on the ball

quit hating, reversing field, all the while keeping your balance while breaking 4 or 5 tackles is impressive, no matter how you look at it
 

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firehawk350;2105809 said:
And I'm not saying he's to blame or it was a bad play, but I never seen such a reaction over a two yard gain. OMG, look at those 2 yards! Like LOLz, how kewl wuz that?!

I agree, seeing Portis run into a pile for 2 yards is much more entertaining :laugh1:
 

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Did you just say quit hatin'? Really??? Again, apparently you guys have serious reading comprehension problems, it wasn't a bad play, I just don't understand why, when he should have just gone down or pushed forward, you guys are applauding him for risking the safety. It's like Sean Taylor's laterals, they all drove the Skins fans insane because it's a very risky play with very little to gain. Basically, it was dumb football that turned out okay.
 

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SOOOOO, let me get this straight... Barber is better than Portis because he broke 5 tackles and reversed field for a 2 yard gain, even though in just about every major statistical benchmark, with a depleted line, Barber's production doesn't even approach Portis'? Just a quick poll, how many cowboys fans think Barber is the superior back?
 

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firehawk350;2105832 said:
SOOOOO, let me get this straight... Barber is better than Portis because he broke 5 tackles and reversed field for a 2 yard gain

Pretty much, yeah :laugh2:

I'm glad we had this talk


Edit: oh that and the list.. just eats away at you don't it?
 

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firehawk350;2105826 said:
Did you just say quit hatin'? Really??? Again, apparently you guys have serious reading comprehension problems, it wasn't a bad play, I just don't understand why, when he should have just gone down or pushed forward, you guys are applauding him for risking the safety. It's like Sean Taylor's laterals, they all drove the Skins fans insane because it's a very risky play with very little to gain. Basically, it was dumb football that turned out okay.

overhyped

doesn't ring a bell?

LOL at you trying to compare anything that Sean Taylor did to Barber's run, the most impressive play he ever made was running over a P in the Pro Bowl
 

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No, Barber is better because the SCOUTS say so.

8th > 9th
 

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firehawk350;2105832 said:
SOOOOO, let me get this straight... Barber is better than Portis because he broke 5 tackles and reversed field for a 2 yard gain, even though in just about every major statistical benchmark, with a depleted line, Barber's production doesn't even approach Portis'? Just a quick poll, how many cowboys fans think Barber is the superior back?

A somewhat telling stat...4.8 > 3.9....or at least it was the last time I checked.

Let's see the "major statistical benchmarks" other than overall yardage, that Portis is superior. I'll be waiting.
 

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Jeez Firehawk overreact much? I like how you just keep bringing up the same run over and over and over again, it's as if thats the only thing you have seen Barber do. I'm guessing the ranking include possible upside that players have (because I don't see you complaining about Peterson not having the same incredible numbers you so quickly spat out about Portis, and he's just had one incomplete season ). Barber does have a better upside then Portis right now and thats why he got the nod. Well that and Portis' 3.9 avg and cross dressing tendances probably didn't help either.
 

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tomson75;2105840 said:
A somewhat telling stat...4.8 > 3.9....or at least it was the last time I checked.

Let's see the "major statistical benchmarks" other than overall yardage, that Portis is superior. I'll be waiting.
Fine, rushing TDs (11 vs. 10), rushing yardage (you already said this but 1262 vs. 975), total yards from scrimmage (1651 vs. 1257), receiving yards (389 vs. 282), YPC (8.6 vs. 6.4), and catches (47 vs. 44). Keep in mind that including Barber's receiving yardage, he still can't beat Portis' pure rushing yardage out.
 

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BAZ;2105901 said:
Jeez Firehawk overreact much? I like how you just keep bringing up the same run over and over and over again, it's as if thats the only thing you have seen Barber do. I'm guessing the ranking include possible upside that players have (because I don't see you complaining about Peterson not having the same incredible numbers you so quickly spat out about Portis, and he's just had one incomplete season ). Barber does have a better upside then Portis right now and thats why he got the nod. Well that and Portis' 3.9 avg and cross dressing tendances probably didn't help either.
Barber has roughly a quarter (off by about 300 or so yards but bear with me) in half Portis' time. If Barber is lucky (and manages to play all 16 games a year like he has his first 3), at this pace, he'll have to sustain his career averages for 12 years to accomplish what Portis has done in 6. Bottom line, in order to catch up to Portis' career, he'd have to average 1860 yds and 12 TDs a year. He may end up getting the TDs, but you'd be an idiot to think he'll double his best season rushing for the next 3 years in a row. Oh yeah, Portis is only 26 BTW.
 
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