The Trouble with Drew

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Simple, really: the guy appears incapable of throwing the underneath stuff. World class gun, but no touch (his apparent inability to throw a decent fade is further evidence of this). And I'm not just referring to the pass to Glenn at the end of the game. Seems to me that, more often than not, when he tries to make a pass underneath, he's well off target. But maybe someone who tapes the games can go back and do an analysis to see if I'm wrong.
 

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Outlaw Heroes said:
Simple, really: the guy appears incapable of throwing the underneath stuff. World class gun, but no touch (his apparent inability to throw a decent fade is further evidence of this). And I'm not just referring to the pass to Glenn at the end of the game. Seems to me that, more often than not, when he tries to make a pass underneath, he's well off target. But maybe someone who tapes the games can go back and do an analysis to see if I'm wrong.


Nope. You aren't wrong. And that is one thing that Vinny has all over Drew. The accuracy and touch on short routes.

You have to understand with Bledsoe it's two different things that cause him not to be effective throwing short passes. #1 are his mechanics. He's just not a setup-quick and throw sort of QB. #2 is that he absolutely hates to throw short--- hates it. You can tell even when listening to him that he detests it.

The Bills thought they solved that over the last half of last season but the Pittsburgh game was a car wreck. Repeatedly Drew pressed for the big play ignoring wide open underneath options. And the Bills braintrust snapped. The result is what we have now.

The whole quandary is that while Bledsoe wants to throw deep on every play, the fact is that defenses have taken that away for the most part. They have since the mid-season mark of 2002. Everyone knows that Bledsoe is much less effective when throwing short--- and he becomes frustrated.

BUT if you allow him to "air it out" then you'll end up with a few big plays but the negative plays (sacks, picks and fumbles) will cause this to be a "3 & out" offense for the most part.

I have very good reasons for not being overly warm when it comes to Drew Bledsoe. And it has nothing to do with personal feelings. It has everything to do with his abilities upon the football field and the lack there of.
 

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Best by far QB we have had since a year or so before Aikman retired. And he can do it- but he doesn't like it. He is getting better at it with BP working on him. Still needs work. By the way. guys, if not for him we would be 0-4. FACT.
 

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burmafrd said:
Best by far QB we have had since a year or so before Aikman retired. And he can do it- but he doesn't like it. He is getting better at it with BP working on him. Still needs work. By the way. guys, if not for him we would be 0-4. FACT.

I agree, Drew has been able to make the throws, sorry but it is the same nay sayers who will do their best to dump on Bledsoe. Face it guys this team has not had a QB of this caliber in a long time.
 

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Bledsoe has a great arm and can make all the throws. BP needs to allow him to go downfield more often. We have good speed in Glenn and great size in Key. Whitten can even beat LB's down the field but we just down stretch the field enough. With todays pass interf. calls, I think you gotta take several shots down the field...
 

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Mansta54 said:
Bledsoe has a great arm and can make all the throws. BP needs to allow him to go downfield more often. We have good speed in Glenn and great size in Key. Whitten can even beat LB's down the field but we just down stretch the field enough. With todays pass interf. calls, I think you gotta take several shots down the field...

Frankly I think Bledsoe was looking down field quite a bit but did not appear to have anything open down field. If you go back and look at the tape it is easy to see that he was looking to take some shots down the field
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Frankly I think Bledsoe was looking down field quite a bit but did not appear to have anything open down field. If you go back and look at the tape it is easy to see that he was looking to take some shots down the field

Ahh, not sure about that. My best friend was at the Raider game and he kept texting me saying Glenn is open deep alot but Bledsoe wouldn't pull the trigger. A few posters on this forum was at the 49ers game and said the same thing. For some reason, he's not letting it go. My friend was so pissed cause we had Glenn open deep several times. He just knew we were gonna win that game cause of that and you see what happened when he did finally go deep to Glenn.. We've gotta take more shots downfield, we just have too.....
 

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Mansta54 said:
Ahh, not sure about that. My best friend was at the Raider game and he kept texting me saying Glenn is open deep alot but Bledsoe wouldn't pull the trigger. A few posters on this forum was at the 49ers game and said the same thing. For some reason, he's not letting it go. My friend was so pissed cause we had Glenn open deep several times. He just knew we were gonna win that game cause of that and you see what happened when he did finally go deep to Glenn.. We've gotta take more shots downfield, we just have too.....


We take them if the WR is open and no disrespect to your friend but it gets old hearing how someone in the seats sees the man wideopen, Drew was taking the 5 and 7 step drops and was looking down field and either did not see the open man or the man was not open. I have no problem with taking shots down field but I do have a problem with a QB being stupid and throwing into coverage. Throwing ints is not the solution for the Cowboys hit the open man move the chains when the oppertunity presents itself then take your shots down field
 

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Thats what we all want is to hit the open man but you'll never losen up the D if you don't stretch the field... To stretch the field doesn't mean u have to throw into double or triple coverage. Drew, is a very smart QB, I just think BP keeps the wraps on the O at times.....
 

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Bledsoe has short hopped more short passes here then Carter threw ducks......IMHO....Bill wants him to dink and dunk.....its not Drew forte.....once again fitting a round peg into a square hole....
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I agree, Drew has been able to make the throws, sorry but it is the same nay sayers who will do their best to dump on Bledsoe. Face it guys this team has not had a QB of this caliber in a long time.

Doom... Yes, I agree. We have not had a QB of this caliber in a long time. But that being said... it still ain't enough.
 

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Doom... Yes, I agree. We have not had a QB of this caliber in a long time. But that being said... it still ain't enough.

I disagree I think Drew is doing a good job for the Cowboys, granted he is not going to play CB or FS but as QB he is doing a good job playing the QB position. Currently 7 TD with 3 ints with one coming because of the hail mary pass at the end of the half.
 

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I disagree I think Drew is doing a good job for the Cowboys, granted he is not going to play CB or FS but as QB he is doing a good job playing the QB position. Currently 7 TD with 3 ints with one coming because of the hail mary pass at the end of the half.


Pretty soon I'm going to start hearing that long ints are as good as punts. :)
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Pretty soon I'm going to start hearing that long ints are as good as punts. :)

Not at all which is why I have said I don't want him going deep just to say he did especially if you have guys open underneath. However that is a bit different than a Hail Mary pass where all the WR and DB are bunched up at the end zone.
 

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Bledsoe has played exceptionally well this year, way better than just about anyone expected. He's missed some throws but not many and the deep throws he has made have kept us in every game. In the first three games we did a good job of protecting him. The Raider game we didn't and the results weren't as good. Duh. There are a few people that seem to get off slamming him and I notice they seem to post more after a loss.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I agree, Drew has been able to make the throws, sorry but it is the same nay sayers who will do their best to dump on Bledsoe. Face it guys this team has not had a QB of this caliber in a long time.

I agree with this 100% now...I was not sure at first, but he has shown me leadership, guts, ability to come back, and a threat anywhere on the field...first time sinc Troy.

My beef...........PAYTON and his conservative game plans, and inability to adjust.
 

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bledsoe is fine...the problem with this offense is the ridiculous playcalling.

someone mentioned that lass pass in the raider game that he threw too low...how about the fact that even if he caught it he was gonna get pounded half a yard short of the 1st down neways.
 

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DLCassidy said:
Bledsoe has played exceptionally well this year, way better than just about anyone expected. He's missed some throws but not many and the deep throws he has made have kept us in every game. In the first three games we did a good job of protecting him. The Raider game we didn't and the results weren't as good. Duh. There are a few people that seem to get off slamming him and I notice they seem to post more after a loss.

You got it!!!! They spent all off-season slamming Bledsoe and now he is showing that he is much better than what they claimed. Crap like he a statue and can't move? Wrong!!!!
 

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TheFuture21 said:
bledsoe is fine...the problem with this offense is the ridiculous playcalling.

someone mentioned that lass pass in the raider game that he threw too low...how about the fact that even if he caught it he was gonna get pounded half a yard short of the 1st down neways.

Why in the world would we even consider a ply short of the goal line?????? I can see Madden watching this one.....he hates it when coaches do this. You know what? He's right! STUPID.
 

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we would consider a play like that because payton is a moron. we did it 7 times on 3rd down against washington...
 
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