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Yep......you should be able to follow that rule regardless. Especially for millions per year. But its pretty ridiculous to not be able to make a living in the NFL just because you smoke pot.


MLB’s Policy on Cannabis
Let’s start with the most polished of all the sports, Major League Baseball, where Cannabis (specifically marijuana) is listed as a Schedule 1 stimulant. What’s interesting is that Cannabis is first on the list, above cocaine, PCP and the rest; but I’ll leave that fact for you to draw your own conclusions on.
After tediously combing through all 75 pages of the 2015 MLB Drug Test Policy, it breaks down like this:
First Infraction – Subject to Follow-up Testing (Yes that’s it!)
Second Infraction – 25 Game Suspension
Third Infraction – 80 Game Suspension
Fourth Infraction – Banned from League (Commissioners Discretion)

NBA’s Policy on Cannabis
While MLB spreads testing across a multitude of substances, the NBA has been more centrally focused on Cannabis testing. Past reasoning being that HGH and other performance enhancing substances are perceived to be less valuable to the skill set of the NBA player, as illogical and unproven as that may sound. The NBA is, however, attempting to keep up with the Jones’ as they are set to initiate a performance enhancing drug (PED) test policy beginning in the 2016 season.
First Infraction – Mandatory Completion of Substance Abuse treatment
Second Infraction – $25,000 Fine – No Suspension
Third Infraction – 5 Game Suspension
Fourth Infraction – 10 Games (5 More Games for Each Positive Test Thereafter)
The adoption of a PED policy years after Cannabis testing was put in place, while a positive step, highlights the unique social perceptions separating Cannabis and PED’s, especially pertaining to the business of professional sports. The bottom line being that, until recently, Cannabis was viewed simply on the recreational side of the coin. As medical advancements continue to be uncovered, the NBA may discover that medical Cannabis, when applied responsibly and professionally, can actually improve the product on the court by allowing players access to a medicine that is without chemicals or toxins. Exclusion of these chemicals and poisons could actually act to elongate professional careers due to the proven health benefits on the liver and kidneys among other organs affected by extended painkiller use.
NFL’s Policy on Cannabis
Unlike the NBA and MLB, the NFL has actually taken recent steps to lessen punishment for positive Cannabis tests(See Josh Gordon). A tangible example of this was the raising of the threshold for a positive test from 15 nanograms per milliliter to 35ng/ml. In addition the NFL uses suspension as a last resort, coming into effect after the fourth positive test. That shouldn’t surprise anyone given that the NFL, more than any other sport, does everything it can to keep players on the field. Here is the NFL breakdown:
First Infraction – Mandatory Rehabilitation Program
Second Infraction – 2 Game Fine (Can Play Un-Paid)
Third Infraction – 4 Game Fine (Can Play Un-Paid)
Fourth Infraction – 4 Game Suspension
Fifth Infraction – 10 Game Suspension

While the NBA, NFL, and MLB all have policies set in stone, there is one league out there that is actually Cannabis friendly, the NHL. That’s right, the NHL does NOT include Cannabis on its list of banned substances. Meaning that, as long as your public conduct is not detrimental to the league(ie arrests, DUI’s) you can feel free to hit and run all you want, the pipe that is.


https://www.cashinbis.com/mlb-nba-and-nfls-policy-on-cannabis/
 

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MLB’s Policy on Cannabis
Let’s start with the most polished of all the sports, Major League Baseball, where Cannabis (specifically marijuana) is listed as a Schedule 1 stimulant. What’s interesting is that Cannabis is first on the list, above cocaine, PCP and the rest; but I’ll leave that fact for you to draw your own conclusions on.
After tediously combing through all 75 pages of the 2015 MLB Drug Test Policy, it breaks down like this:
First Infraction – Subject to Follow-up Testing (Yes that’s it!)
Second Infraction – 25 Game Suspension
Third Infraction – 80 Game Suspension
Fourth Infraction – Banned from League (Commissioners Discretion)

NBA’s Policy on Cannabis
While MLB spreads testing across a multitude of substances, the NBA has been more centrally focused on Cannabis testing. Past reasoning being that HGH and other performance enhancing substances are perceived to be less valuable to the skill set of the NBA player, as illogical and unproven as that may sound. The NBA is, however, attempting to keep up with the Jones’ as they are set to initiate a performance enhancing drug (PED) test policy beginning in the 2016 season.
First Infraction – Mandatory Completion of Substance Abuse treatment
Second Infraction – $25,000 Fine – No Suspension
Third Infraction – 5 Game Suspension
Fourth Infraction – 10 Games (5 More Games for Each Positive Test Thereafter)
The adoption of a PED policy years after Cannabis testing was put in place, while a positive step, highlights the unique social perceptions separating Cannabis and PED’s, especially pertaining to the business of professional sports. The bottom line being that, until recently, Cannabis was viewed simply on the recreational side of the coin. As medical advancements continue to be uncovered, the NBA may discover that medical Cannabis, when applied responsibly and professionally, can actually improve the product on the court by allowing players access to a medicine that is without chemicals or toxins. Exclusion of these chemicals and poisons could actually act to elongate professional careers due to the proven health benefits on the liver and kidneys among other organs affected by extended painkiller use.
NFL’s Policy on Cannabis
Unlike the NBA and MLB, the NFL has actually taken recent steps to lessen punishment for positive Cannabis tests(See Josh Gordon). A tangible example of this was the raising of the threshold for a positive test from 15 nanograms per milliliter to 35ng/ml. In addition the NFL uses suspension as a last resort, coming into effect after the fourth positive test. That shouldn’t surprise anyone given that the NFL, more than any other sport, does everything it can to keep players on the field. Here is the NFL breakdown:
First Infraction – Mandatory Rehabilitation Program
Second Infraction – 2 Game Fine (Can Play Un-Paid)
Third Infraction – 4 Game Fine (Can Play Un-Paid)
Fourth Infraction – 4 Game Suspension
Fifth Infraction – 10 Game Suspension

While the NBA, NFL, and MLB all have policies set in stone, there is one league out there that is actually Cannabis friendly, the NHL. That’s right, the NHL does NOT include Cannabis on its list of banned substances. Meaning that, as long as your public conduct is not detrimental to the league(ie arrests, DUI’s) you can feel free to hit and run all you want, the pipe that is.


https://www.cashinbis.com/mlb-nba-and-nfls-policy-on-cannabis/

Ok, well that settles that one.
 

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Death, taxes, and a vortex of stupidity that pulls in a significant handful of NFL players every June and July.

Vacations to exotic places. Romps in strip clubs and late nights all over town. All of Las Vegas' offerings and fetish fury. And unfortunately, often with a posse of hangers-on, many of which have almost nothing to lose and enough built-up selfish insecurity to take a career down with nary a care.

Things can get out of hand in a hurry on many fronts. Bad decisions run rampant. A smorgasbord of drugs and booze and women flow like honey for young dudes with money and time to burn. Players lose control of their scenes, their friends, their conscience, and their judgment. Too many fail to realize it in time, or even care, unfortunately.

Such is today's pro athlete, and in a culture that expects it, and tragically embraces it as perfectly acceptable.

That's what keeps coaches on edge. Idle time is not a friend, especially as plans and rosters are being constructed purposefully. Injuries are disappointing. Bad judgment is unforgivably maddening. It undoes the efforts of so many.

Soon, the annual warning speeches will be delivered in all 32 cities, but deaf ears will reside in each. Even the RKG Garrett guys are susceptible if they're not careful. Coaches hearts pound a little harder every time the phone rings. They just want to fast forward to camp with their roster intact.

Like them, we remain held hostage, watching the summer hours drip by, hoping the blotter ignores our guys, though we know deep down some of them are up to no good. We can even probably name them.

So hold your breath. Here we go.

Good write up;)
 

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No doubt. I would think its just a matter of time before he gets busted again.

It really is a shame that the NFL has that stupid rule. I dont believe the NBA or MLB have pot in their agreement.

If someone offered you 5m to quit smoking dope, would you do it? I know I would....just take some Xanax like everyone else
 

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Death, taxes, and a vortex of stupidity that pulls in a significant handful of NFL players every June and July.

Vacations to exotic places. Romps in strip clubs and late nights all over town. All of Las Vegas' offerings and fetish fury. And unfortunately, often with a posse of hangers-on, many of which have almost nothing to lose and enough built-up selfish insecurity to take a career down with nary a care.

Things can get out of hand in a hurry on many fronts. Bad decisions run rampant. A smorgasbord of drugs and booze and women flow like honey for young dudes with money and time to burn. Players lose control of their scenes, their friends, their conscience, and their judgment. Too many fail to realize it in time, or even care, unfortunately.

Such is today's pro athlete, and in a culture that expects it, and tragically embraces it as perfectly acceptable.

That's what keeps coaches on edge. Idle time is not a friend, especially as plans and rosters are being constructed purposefully. Injuries are disappointing. Bad judgment is unforgivably maddening. It undoes the efforts of so many.

Soon, the annual warning speeches will be delivered in all 32 cities, but deaf ears will reside in each. Even the RKG Garrett guys are susceptible if they're not careful. Coaches hearts pound a little harder every time the phone rings. They just want to fast forward to camp with their roster intact.

Like them, we remain held hostage, watching the summer hours drip by, hoping the blotter ignores our guys, though we know deep down some of them are up to no good. We can even probably name them.

So hold your breath. Here we go.

Hope no real injuries to the Cowboys !!!!
 

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If/when the Raiders move to Las Vegas, they are going to have to hire a squadron of bodyguards/babysitters to keep track of all their players.

I really don't think,a team in Vegas would be good for the league. The temptations would be too great. Every time a field goal was missed, or a pass dropped, someone would be accused of point shaving. A Black Sox scandal could destroy football.
 

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Yep......you should be able to follow that rule regardless. Especially for millions per year. But its pretty ridiculous to not be able to make a living in the NFL just because you smoke pot.

it is pretty stupid to smoke pot when millions are at stake. Only someone who has ruined their brain would think that it is no big deal and go ahead and get high knowing you will be tested. Getting high is just more important than football to them.
 

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it is pretty stupid to smoke pot when millions are at stake. Only someone who has ruined their brain would think that it is no big deal and go ahead and get high knowing you will be tested. Getting high is just more important than football to them.

Either that or he has serious mental issues that dont allow him to properly rationalize or care enough to control it. Either way, its not good. Which is why I am not counting on him going forward.
 

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If/when the Raiders move to Las Vegas, they are going to have to hire a squadron of bodyguards/babysitters to keep track of all their players.

A team in Vegas would be off the hook......................

The NFL cant move to Vegas,,,,,they just cant......................can they?
 

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Yep......you should be able to follow that rule regardless. Especially for millions per year. But its pretty ridiculous to not be able to make a living in the NFL just because you smoke pot.

How freaking oblivious to the world, and dumb do you have to be, to chance that kind of money? With Gregory, its probably already cost him Multi Millions of dollars...


How freaking stupid do you have to be? Even for a young twenty something.............................

just for some weed????????????????

Ive written Gregory off personally. I hope he proves me wrong, but, this was his second, third chance.............and he STILL doesnt get it.......something aint right there...I hope he gets his mind right, his life right. Forget football....


And I am 4 legalization.
 

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How freaking oblivious to the world, and dumb do you have to be, to chance that kind of money? With Gregory, its probably already cost him Multi Millions of dollars...


How freaking stupid do you have to be? Even for a young twenty something.............................

just for some weed????????????????

Ive written Gregory off personally. I hope he proves me wrong, but, this was his second, third chance.............and he STILL doesnt get it.......something aint right there...I hope he gets his mind right, his life right. Forget football....


And I am 4 legalization.

You either have to be very:

-Stupid
-dont care
-mentally sick
 

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I really don't think,a team in Vegas would be good for the league. The temptations would be too great. Every time a field goal was missed, or a pass dropped, someone would be accused of point shaving. A Black Sox scandal could destroy football.

The only problem with a team in Vegas would be the night life.....the players can shave points in any city....plus 95% of the money bet on sports is with illegal bookies or off-shore online....it is such a non-issue.....in fact the bets in Vegas are recorded and would actually help expose any attempts to shave poiints
 

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If/when the Raiders move to Las Vegas, they are going to have to hire a squadron of bodyguards/babysitters to keep track of all their players.

I agree with the OP's premise. But the Raiders can be arseholes anywhere lol. And obviously, anyone can get in trouble anywhere...particularly a knucklehead. Talib wasn't shot in Vegas...he was shot at a Dallas club. Hardy wasn't accused, etc. of Domestic Violence in Vegas. Rolando McClain has been in trouble in Alabama & perhaps Cali, not Vegas. Gregory smoked in Nebraska & Texas. Scandrick took Molly outside of the country while on vacation according to him.

New York, LA, Chicago, Texas, New Orleans, Miami, etc. etc. offer ample opportunity for any idiot to get in trouble. Hell, remember the Vikings 'sex boat' scandal in Minny? I even recently watched a documentary on how Montana has become a hotbed of drug smuggling, increased use among residents, etc. The border with Canada & some of their beautiful forests being infiltration destinations. One of the main differences with Vegas, is you can drink/gamble 24 hours. Also, there's a few remaining legal brothels in another county that are regulated by the government. Prostitution, drugs, strippers, etc...are available all over the place, particularly to rich/famous athletes, entertainers, etc. Pot is legal in states such as the home of the defending Super Bowl champs. Interestingly, a decent amount of girls stripping in Vegas, commute to & from the Raiders current home state of California...and there's a ton of them in town when large conventions such as CES are set to come in...or the National Finals Rodeo is in town, etc.
 

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The only problem with a team in Vegas would be the night life.....the players can shave points in any city....plus 95% of the money bet on sports is with illegal bookies or off-shore online....it is such a non-issue.....in fact the bets in Vegas are recorded and would actually help expose any attempts to shave poiints

Indeed. Gaming in Vegas is very tightly regulated...to include sports wagering of course. In fact, government agencies have come to Nevada agencies to learn more on rules, regulation, etc. A good deal of states now have casinos, etc. And places like NY, Miami, LA, etc...are also noted for night life.

Regarding night life...aside from the CVA's catchy slogans, the primary difference between Vegas & a place like say Miami, is that Vegas goes 24/7...although night clubs do indeed shut down in the wee hours. Many restaurants, etc. (to include in casinos), shut down at more traditional hours. But you can go to bars, casinos, etc...and gamble & drink any time. Of course, the police are well aware of that also.

As mentioned, Miami is another city known for it's night life, etc. And that is where former NFL wide receiver Donte Stallworth struck and killed Mario Reyes at 2am. Stallworth was of course eventually charged with DUI manslaughter.
 
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Indeed. Gaming in Vegas is very tightly regulated...to include sports wagering of course. In fact, government agencies have come to Nevada agencies to learn more on rules, regulation, etc. A good deal of states now have casinos, etc. And places like NY, Miami, LA, etc...are also noted for night life.

Regarding night life...aside from the CVA's catchy slogans, the primary difference between Vegas & a place like say Miami, is that Vegas goes 24/7...although night clubs do indeed shut down in the wee hours. Many restaurants, etc. (to include in casinos), shut down at more traditional hours. But you can go to bars, casinos, etc...and gamble & drink any time. Of course, the police are well aware of that also.

As mentioned, Miami is another city known for it's night life, etc. And that is where former NFL wide receiver Donte Stallworth struck and killed Mario Reyes at 2am. Stallworth was of course eventually charged with DUI manslaughter.

Right on....that is all I meant about the night life.....it is hard to be young, rich and famous in a town full of high dollar clubs and a lot of beautiful dancers, hostesses and party people.....imagine your friends coming to town and trying to entertain them with clean living.....
 
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