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There is no way the Washington Commanders should have beaten the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night! They should never even have scored!
In fact, I was sitting there watching the game, thinking, "If we keep playing this same defensive scheme with the same intensity, it could be weeks before the Skins score".

For 3 and a half quarters, our strategy was perfect. We were blitzing from all angles, and using several different players, including Nguyen, Shanle, R.Williams, Spears, etc. to keep Mark Brunell running for his life, and making bad plays. Wow, just like the 3-4 is supposed to work.

Then, something happened. Zimmerman decided somewhere in the middle of the 4th quarter that, "hey, these guys have to score now, or they lose the game". So, does he keep doing what has been effective ALL night? Does he keep the heat on or even increase it, knowing that Brunell was pretty much out of running options? No, he changes the whole game plan. Roy Williams, who by this juncture of the game, was playing world-beater because of the great plan of putting him CLOSER to the line of scrimmage, where he can take advantage of his greatest assets, was working like a Rolex.

So, Zimmer, being the defensive genius that he is, puts Roy out in centerfield....no man's land. He takes our best defensive player who had been cut loose to do what he does best-create chaos, for over 3 quarter, and puts him in a defensive situation, where he was told to retreat. The man knows only to attack.

O.K., then Zim must have been planning on using some of the other penetrators to reek havoc on poor Mark B. Nope. He trims the rushers down to four & increases the amount of fast, little guys who, the thinking must have been, would blanket the WRs of the Commanders and, game over. The problem with this thinking is that, it has hardly ever worked in the anals of the NFL. No, that was not a spelling error. It's called "prevent" defense, & all it does is "prevent" you from winning.

Folks, our players overmatched theirs, especially when our "D" was on the field, that I almost felt sorry for them. Almost, until I reminded myself of their colors. We NEVER should have lost that game. Not one of our players are at fault. We had a perfect scheme, a team on the ropes, & we change our strategy to the famous, play "not to lose". Nothing makes me madder, nor deflates me faster. We put a superior team out on the field last night, then allowed fear to handcuff them. If we aren't going to play lights out, blow them out of the water, for an ENTIRE 4 quarters, then the 3-4 was just a waste of time.
 

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Parcells had a lost look on his face - I think he is now calling the D.
And I ask Why were we not in a Prevent D?
 

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Cogan said:
There is no way the Washington Commanders should have beaten the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night! They should never even have scored!
In fact, I was sitting there watching the game, thinking, "If we keep playing this same defensive scheme with the same intensity, it could be weeks before the Skins score".

For 3 and a half quarters, our strategy was perfect. We were blitzing from all angles, and using several different players, including Nguyen, Shanle, R.Williams, Spears, etc. to keep Mark Brunell running for his life, and making bad plays. Wow, just like the 3-4 is supposed to work.

Then, something happened. Zimmerman decided somewhere in the middle of the 4th quarter that, "hey, these guys have to score now, or they lose the game". So, does he keep doing what has been effective ALL night? Does he keep the heat on or even increase it, knowing that Brunell was pretty much out of running options? No, he changes the whole game plan. Roy Williams, who by this juncture of the game, was playing world-beater because of the great plan of putting him CLOSER to the line of scrimmage, where he can take advantage of his greatest assets, was working like a Rolex.

So, Zimmer, being the defensive genius that he is, puts Roy out in centerfield....no man's land. He takes our best defensive player who had been cut loose to do what he does best-create chaos, for over 3 quarter, and puts him in a defensive situation, where he was told to retreat. The man knows only to attack.

O.K., then Zim must have been planning on using some of the other penetrators to reek havoc on poor Mark B. Nope. He trims the rushers down to four & increases the amount of fast, little guys who, the thinking must have been, would blanket the WRs of the Commanders and, game over. The problem with this thinking is that, it has hardly ever worked in the anals of the NFL. No, that was not a spelling error. It's called "prevent" defense, & all it does is "prevent" you from winning.

Folks, our players overmatched theirs, especially when our "D" was on the field, that I almost felt sorry for them. Almost, until I reminded myself of their colors. We NEVER should have lost that game. Not one of our players are at fault. We had a perfect scheme, a team on the ropes, & we change our strategy to the famous, play "not to lose". Nothing makes me madder, nor deflates me faster. We put a superior team out on the field last night, then allowed fear to handcuff them. If we aren't going to play lights out, blow them out of the water, for an ENTIRE 4 quarters, then the 3-4 was just a waste of time.
A Pro Bowl safety should be able to cover centerfield at the end of the game. Period. We choked. Done deal. Move on.
 

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ScottCase said:
Parcells had a lost look on his face - I think he is now calling the D.
And I ask Why were we not in a Prevent D?

We were, the coverage was just busted.
 

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jimmy40 said:
A Pro Bowl safety should be able to cover centerfield at the end of the game. Period. We choked. Done deal. Move on.

Roy Williams can't cover Santana Moss by himself deep. Do you think any team in the NFL would want their SS one on one with Terry Glenn and a four man rush? Hell no.

Stupid playcalling and horrible execution.
 

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Roy Williams can't cover Santana Moss by himself deep. Do you think any team in the NFL would want their SS one on one with Terry Glenn and a four man rush? Hell no.

Stupid playcalling and horrible execution.
When was Roy Williams ono on one with anybody? Quit making freaking excuses. Damn.
 

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jimmy40 said:
When was Roy Williams ono on one with anybody? Quit making freaking excuses. Damn.

It was him and Aaron Glenn, and Glenn was completely out of the play, moreso than Roy. Did someone break your Kotex plastic applicator? Don't get snooty. Damn.
 

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What does it tell you when the coach "has a lost look on his face", which he did. IMHO he didn't have a clue how to stop the 'Skins. I think we have TOO much of BP calling Os and Ds. Gibbs is 10 tmes the coach BP is...
 

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I wasn't so upset that zimmer called the dogs off with 5 min to go , up by 13 pts. what you want to guard agaisnt in that situation is the big play. Its the onlything they have left to beat you. They are not going to make 2 15 play 80 yd drives in under 5 min and beat you. You have to stop the the big play. I was disappointed when our 'd line didnt run any stunts or anything to take advantage of the speed and quickness we have. Our guys are not going to bull rush many O line in this league. The problem was, the coverage broke down. Hard to say who was at fault, if anyone. Maybe, they underestimated Moss's speed. Maybe they took a bad angle. I dont know. But the scheme was fine, hell we totally destroyed them for 55 min. I don't think we should be hanging Roy out to dry over this. At the most, the 2nd TD was the only one he had coverage responsibility on and not even sure if then. I do think that zimmer needs to know his personal better and match up our best against their best in those situations.
 
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I wasn't so upset that zimmer called the dogs off with 5 min to go , up by 13 pts. what you want to guard agaisnt in that situation is the big play. Its the onlything they have left to beat you. They are not going to make 2 15 play 80 yd drives in under 5 min and beat you. You have to stop the the big play. I was disappointed when our 'd line didnt run any stunts or anything to take advantage of the speed and quickness we have. Our guys are not going to bull rush many O line in this league. The problem was, the coverage broke down. Hard to say who was at fault, if anyone. Maybe, they underestimated Moss's speed. Maybe they took a bad angle. I dont know. But the scheme was fine, hell we totally destroyed them for 55 min. I don't think we should be hanging Roy out to dry over this. At the most, the 2nd TD was the only one he had coverage responsibility on and not even sure if then. I do think that zimmer needs to know his personal better and match up our best against their best in those situations.

You say the scheme was fine & that we destroyed them with it for 55 minutes, but we didn't run that same scheme the last 5 minutes. AFA a Pro-bowl calibur safety being able to cover centerfield at the end of the game, you're right, a FS should....but that is not Roy's strong suit & never will be.

Of course you should cover the deep pass at the end of the game up by 13, but you also have to keep up the heat that kept your opponent staggering those first 55 min. If you're gonna play prevent, at least chuck the diminutive Moss at the line. That way you take him out of his route, and give our rush longer to reach the QB. (Of course, having the rush we used the previous 55 min. would have done a lot to force Brunell to make another mistake....;) )
 

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Those that say we quit blitzing in the final 5:00 minutes are just flat out wrong.

Roy blitzed the play when Brunnel was sacked with 4:50 left in the game that put the Commanders in the 4th and 27 situation. He blitzed Roy Williams again when it was 4th and 2, when Brunnel dropped it the dump pass off with 4:15 to play. So when exactly were the dogs called off?

Dropping Roy back in coverage should have won the game for us. With 4:15 to play, Brunnel threw it into triple coverage on a 1st and 15, and Roy let the easy INT go right through his hands and the football clunked off his facemask. Since Roy can't make the big play in the clutch, I guess its all Zimmer's fault. Its not like the player just choked or anything.

Is Roy supposed to blitz on every single play? Is that was the purpose of the 3-4 is, so your safety can blitz on every single play? That's really kind of strange, because I was always led to believe that a safety was actually a DEFENSIVE BACK. If we drafted Roy Williams with a Top 10 pick to rush the passer on every single play and never have to cover anyone ... ever ... I wish we would have drafted Dwight Freeney with that pick since he would have filled tha criteria much, much more effectively.
 

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Ask anyone here how I feel about Zimmer. I still want him gone after this year but seriously there is no way he can be blamed for anything last night. There is nothing Zimmer can do whe the refs are not calling the holding on our DL by the Skins OL. Roy Williams is the one who dropped a rather easy INT. Not Zimmer.


Some of you out there might wanna frame this post by me cuz I probaly will not ever defend Zimmer again.
 

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I don't understand why after getting burned on that 1st TD, they couldn't just get Newman on Moss and rotate accordingly? Yes, Roy Williams blew his coverage but where the ^%$&#%^(*$ was Glenn?!
 

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Roy wasn't asked to cover center field, he was asked to cover RIGHT FIELD. ANY NFL DB should be able to do that.
 

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I just re-watched the game and your analysis is seriously flawed.

We ran deep cover two several times during the game, but I guess you missed Roy breaking up a pass in the end zone, he possibly would have picked it off but Henry made a play on the ball too and hit Roy's arm.

We were in our standard nickel with a 4-2-5. Prevent usually has at least 6 DBs.

Hell, I wish we HAD BEEN IN PREVENT, because the last TD would never have happened.

The flaw in our coverage actually first occured with 7 minutes left in the 3rd. Washington did not go back to Moss on the right side again until the first TD.
 
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