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2 (51) - Brian Robiskie
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 207 | Position:WR | College: Ohio State

"I loved him," said Mayock. "He looked good. And he really didn't surprise me, because that's who he is. He ran high 4.4s. He grew up with football. I thought 4.55 or better for him would be great. He caught everything. He runs every drill.

"He's just a professional because of his dad. He runs great routes. If there's a more solid second-round pick out there, I haven't seen him. And some teams at the end of the first round might say, "if we don't have our guy, he's a guy we'd like to have in our back pocket."

I think we've be lucky to get him in the 2nd round at this point.

3 (69) - Kraig Urbik
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 328 | Position:OT/OG | College: Wisconsin

Solid, versatile lineman. They say Wisconsin linemen are some of the safest picks year in and year out. This guy will have a long NFL career.

4 (97) - Keenan Lewis
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 198 | Position:CB | College: Oregon State
Tall, physical, cover corner that has the skills and will to switch to FS if need be.

4 (113) - Scott McKillop

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 243 | Position:ILB | College: Pittsburgh
A football player, gives us depth behind Bradie and can be groomed for next year. Smart in coverage, always a plus.

5 (148) - Louis Vasquez

Height: 6-5 | Weight: 330 | Position:OG | College: Texas Tech
Vasquez has a whole lot of experience pass blocking but will need some time to learn NFL blocking schemes after living in the spread.

5(comp) - Mike Wallace
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 199 | Position:WR | College: Mississippi
Speedy slot WR and specials team ace, has the size to be more, but could really excel in the slot.

6 (184) - John Parker Wilson

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 215 | Position:QB | College: Alabama
Young QB to groom to be Romo's backup, I'd love Rhett Bomar but my draft just didn't play out that way. Lacks the arm for the deep out maybe, but a smart player that will buy us time till Romo returns if needed.

6 (comp) - Everette Pedescleaux

Height: 6-6 | Weight: 305 | Position:DE | College: Northern Iowa
Beast of a guy, very under the radar right now but he was a man in college. Has the size we like in the 3-4 as well.

7 (193) - Josh Mauga
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 245 | Position:OLB/ILB | College: Nevada
Gamer of a LB that has had some trouble with injury. Got moved around a lot and excelled doing whatever he was asked to do.

7 (210) - Andy Kemp

Height: 6-5 | Weight: 313 | Position:OT | College: Wisconsin
Played opposite Urbik, can be groomed to backup Coloumbo but probably better off as a guard.
 

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Urbik *will not* drop that far. I like Robiskie a lot but not enough to take him in the 2nd when we've got Austin and Crayton already. I also doubt McKillop falls that far, but I'd be happy if he did.
 

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irvin4evs;2691262 said:
Urbik *will not* drop that far. I like Robiskie a lot but not enough to take him in the 2nd when we've got Austin and Crayton already. I also doubt McKillop falls that far, but I'd be happy if he did.

My player rankings are from: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

We pick 69 and they have Urbik 74, hence why I put him in that slot. He could certainly go sooner.

I also wouldn't let Austin or Crayton stop us from taking a WR or two. Miles has shown potential but still only has 19 catches over 3 years, Crayton has obviously hit his ceiling.

Every other team in our division has added young WR talent, it's time we did the same. Unless you'd rather keep giving up draft picks at 10mil a year to get them.
 

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We've made our investments already. One is Roy, two are undrafted guys who we have cultivated for the past three years, and one is a 4th rounder who was actually pretty decent when he played last year considering how inexperienced and injured he was.

The only way we take a WR with the first pick, IMO, is if it's someone with a 1st round grade, and I doubt that means anyone outside of Crab, Maclin, Nicks and Harvin. I have no problem with taking a WR later, but it must be an exceptional value to do so early because they more than likely won't contribute for the next two years anyway.

That won't be the case if we go safety, LB, DE/DT, or probably even CB, G or T.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2691300 said:
Solid mock not a huge fan of robiskie other than that it's good.

Yep. I really like this mock draft too. And Robiskie would be sweet.
 

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irvin4evs;2691302 said:
The only way we take a WR with the first pick, IMO, is if it's someone with a 1st round grade, and I doubt that means anyone outside of Crab, Maclin, Nicks and Harvin. I have no problem with taking a WR later, but it must be an exceptional value to do so early because they more than likely won't contribute for the next two years anyway.

That won't be the case if we go safety, LB, DE/DT, or probably even CB, G or T.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

The Giants took Steve Smith at the EXACT same position in 2007, and they took Sinorice Moss at pick 44 the year before that, so I see nothing wrong with taking a WR there. And that was before he shot himself in the leg. Just because it's our first pick doesn't mean it's the first round.

Pick 51 is not early.

DaBoys4Life;2691300 said:
Solid mock not a huge fan of robiskie other than that it's good.

Thanks, everyone has their guy, Robiskie just happens to be mine.
 

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The Giants took Steve Smith after addressing other positions, and after they had known for a long while that Sinorice Moss totally sucked. If we feel that way about Austin, Hurd and Staback then I can see the logic in going WR first.

I'm just saying I doubt Robiskie is the player who will be most useful for us, even though I think he'll probably be a good or very good player.
 

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TheCount;2691486 said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

The Giants took Steve Smith at the EXACT same position in 2007, and they took Sinorice Moss at pick 44 the year before that, so I see nothing wrong with taking a WR there. And that was before he shot himself in the leg. Just because it's our first pick doesn't mean it's the first round.

Pick 51 is not early.



Thanks, everyone has their guy, Robiskie just happens to be mine.

Seems like every time drafts WR except the cowboys. it really irks me.
 

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i really dont see the point of Robiskie for our team-we have similar Receivers like him.what we need is speed.
 

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reddyuta;2691571 said:
i really dont see the point of Robiskie for our team-we have similar Receivers like him.what we need is speed.

I think I addressed that with the Mike Wallace pick a few rounds later.
 

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Robiskie won't be there.

He may make 40 but I really doubt it. Teams love safe picks and he is safe. He was a better athlete than projected and played hurt at OSU.
 

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reddyuta;2691571 said:
i really dont see the point of Robiskie for our team-we have similar Receivers like him.what we need is speed.

Who is it?

He has better hands and runs better routes than Austin, is faster than Crayton/Hurd and is just a better prospect than we have on the team outside of RW.

He is 6'3" and 209 with sub 4.5 40 speed and he runs not good but great routes.

He put on the best combine and senior bowl of any WR by miles.

If we draft him he very well could start as a rookie over that Crayton/Austin combo and at worst he'd be there in case Austin did get dinged again.
 

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If taking Robiskie isn't a good idea it's got nothing to do with speed. We need WRs that get open, not WRs that are fast.

Bashir Yamini and Carlos Francis never did anyone any good.
 

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irvin4evs;2691873 said:
If taking Robiskie isn't a good idea it's got nothing to do with speed. We need WRs that get open, not WRs that are fast.

Bashir Yamini and Carlos Francis never did anyone any good.

Like jt said, he's an excellent route runner, which is what most teams have to teach young receivers. He's got 4.4 speed as well, and multiple sources have commended his ability to "get open". He made plenty of circus catches for Troy Smith.

Robiskie isn't a track star, he's a football player.
 

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Robiskie just seems very low risk. I know it's all relative though.
 

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Every NFL scout i've heard loves Robiskie and Brian Broadus said the guy is special and thinks the Cowboys would pull the trigger if he is there on draft day.

He may go higher than projected.
 

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jterrell;2691681 said:
Robiskie won't be there.

He may make 40 but I really doubt it. Teams love safe picks and he is safe. He was a better athlete than projected and played hurt at OSU.
I'm not projecting a WR w/ our first pick BUT if we were to go that way and Robiskie was gone, what about Juaquin Iglesias from OU? I have him right up there w/ Robiskie.....
 
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