There are a lot of free agent Centers available

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I will be very discouraged if we end up with Costa starting again.

We don't have to break the back going after Chris Myers or Scott Wells...

Hardwick and Koppen are better options than Costa. Even if it's just for one year deals.
 
callahan is a very good OL coach and it seems that garrett is committed to improving the OL so i am hoping we will sign a very good OC or OG or both in FA and devote some draft resources to this as well
 
Sign a guy like Koppen for 1 to 2 yrs, and simultaneously draft a Center in April in Day 2 or 3 to groom behind him. (or groom Arkin/Nagy if they believe that he can eventually be the guy)
 
I'm not against grooming a player currently on the roster, I just don't believe that you can pencil anyone from the roster as a starter after what we saw last year.

Get the veterans now, and groom for the future. i.e. later in the season, next year, and onward.

That goes for CB, Safety, ILB, DE, NT, G, C
 
David Arkin has said to have been in an offensive lineman camp for two weeks working exclusively at the center position. If true, and at the moment I don't doubt it, then I would think Callahan is grooming him as the new center.

I don't expect Costa to be the center next year for Dallas but quite possibly for San Diego.
 
I think I would pass on the free agent centers. Either draft one or let Arkin play there.
 
Manwiththeplan;4442021 said:
I think I would pass on the free agent centers. Either draft one or let Arkin play there.

Both Costa and Kowalski are miles ahead of Arkin.

Yes, let's play Arkin there.
 
Galian Beast;4441894 said:
I will be very discouraged if we end up with Costa starting again.

We don't have to break the back going after Chris Myers or Scott Wells...

Hardwick and Koppen are better options than Costa. Even if it's just for one year deals.

Hardwick is talking about retirement. That's nuts for a guy going into FA. I think about what happened to NO last year with Kreutz and worry that this might end up a similar situation.

Koppen is very good - he'll be almost 33 when the season starts, but interior OL can generally play deep into their 30s.

I think Wells is a guy who is going to end up on the market a bit longer than he wants to be as he is talking about a huge 7 mill a year deal or something like that.

The kid from Oakland gets some mentions here but I think we are more likely to get a vet to stabilize and lead the line as we are likely going to be very young at every other position
 
We need to do something at OC. I think a decent veteran like Coppen makes sense for us there. I don't trust a third-round rookie from a college weight-training program to be able to come in and upgrade in the first year, for obvious reasons. I'm intrigued with Kowalski there after an NFL offseason, though, I have to say. I'd bring in a reasonably-priced vet and give him the nod and let Kowalski and Costa fight it out with him in camp.
 
Idgit;4442195 said:
We need to do something at OC. I think a decent veteran like Coppen makes sense for us there. I don't trust a third-round rookie from a college weight-training program to be able to come in and upgrade in the first year, for obvious reasons. I'm intrigued with Kowalski there after an NFL offseason, though, I have to say. I'd bring in a reasonably-priced vet and give him the nod and let Kowalski and Costa fight it out with him in camp.

Depends on the College W/T program. Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, etc they do well as rookies.
 
Idgit;4442195 said:
We need to do something at OC. I think a decent veteran like Coppen makes sense for us there. I don't trust a third-round rookie from a college weight-training program to be able to come in and upgrade in the first year, for obvious reasons. I'm intrigued with Kowalski there after an NFL offseason, though, I have to say. I'd bring in a reasonably-priced vet and give him the nod and let Kowalski and Costa fight it out with him in camp.

The reason I am interested in Koppen as well is because I don't think he'll break the bank. He should come much more reasonably than Wells.
 
burmafrd;4442203 said:
Depends on the College W/T program. Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, etc they do well as rookies.

Yeah. I should have made that qualification. Konz is an obvious exception there if he's available after the first round.

Woods;4442217 said:
The reason I am interested in Koppen as well is because I don't think he'll break the bank. He should come much more reasonably than Wells.

Exactly. Especially if we splurge elsewhere, there are upgrades available at OC at what would still be value contracts for us.
 
Woods;4442217 said:
The reason I am interested in Koppen as well is because I don't think he'll break the bank. He should come much more reasonably than Wells.

I also think that Koppen would be commanding a higher price if he didn't miss most of the 2011 season with a broken ankle.

The more I look at this the more I think he's a major target. Tons of big game experience, played in a winning environment ... the positives go on and on

I do think we are looking at a 3-4 year commitment at about 4 mill a year to get this done though
 
AbeBeta;4442306 said:
I also think that Koppen would be commanding a higher price if he didn't miss most of the 2011 season with a broken ankle.

The more I look at this the more I think he's a major target. Tons of big game experience, played in a winning environment ... the positives go on and on

I do think we are looking at a 3-4 year commitment at about 4 mill a year to get this done though

that sounds reasonable
this is a huge need area for us
would free us to look for OG in rounds 2 or 3
 
Galian Beast;4441894 said:
I will be very discouraged if we end up with Costa starting again. We don't have to break the back going after Chris Myers or Scott Wells...

Hardwick and Koppen are better options than Costa. Even if it's just for one year deals.

Don't worry - You'll see Kyle Kossier play C before you see Costa starting there again, and in no way do I believe Kossier will be the backup C.

And I do think thry'll keep Kossier over Gurode if they have to pick one of them, because Kossier can back-up both G abd C positions.

I can see us signing a free agent C, drafting one in the later rouns to serve as the backup and develop, and keeping Kossier to be the #3. But that won't be Kossier's only value, because I think he'll be the starter at one of the G spots.
 
AMERICAS_FAN;4442327 said:
Don't worry - You'll see Kyle Kossier play C before you see Costa starting there again, and in no way do I believe Kossier will be the backup C.

I think you sell Costa a little short. He was bad last year. But the vast majority of first year starters suck. Costa may not be a solid starter but he's going to be in the mix competing for an OL spot
 
We need a Vet with a leadership mindset to get this o-line back on track and then draft another one in the 3rd to 4rth round to groom behind him...:pray:
 

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