There is misplaced worry about Zeke when the real culprit is the D

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I will say that at season's end, our defense will rank 20 and give up 28 points per game.
Lads, that type of play is unsustainable.
 

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I will say that at season's end, our defense will rank 20 and give up 28 points per game.
Lads, that type of play is unsustainable.
This is why a lot of us are lobbying for Bowman. We have been getting gashed by the run, right up the gut. This happens to be Bowman's strength. It's a no brainer, sign the man!
 

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Plenty of talk about the defense the last couple of weeks.

Easily more worry and hand wringing about that then Zeke.
 

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Duh. If we want to win a Super Bowl we need to get a top 10 defense going

Unless you have tom Brady you need one to win games especially in the playoffs

Too bad our FO is content with good ole boy rod
 

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Sean Lee makes a big difference. He normally makes 3-4 plays a game that stall drives. Having him back should stop the bleeding in the run game.

That being said, we really need more quality depth at that position so we're not relying on Lee so much.
 

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We knew there would be growing pains. And the D would / could, and now is struggling. I said before the season, if they could be what they were last year to start, or even a little worse. They may finish about the middle of the pack or slightly better, again. Bt as long as they are playing like a top. 12 by the end of the year, it would be good.

But now, I am not so sure. Can they turn it around and get better, sure, but right now I just can't see it. Unless they come out of the bye week with some changes. Like for one, get heath out of there. Hitchens more playing time over Smith.
 

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Duh. If we want to win a Super Bowl we need to get a top 10 defense going

Unless you have tom Brady you need one to win games especially in the playoffs

Too bad our FO is content with good ole boy rod
Even Brady need some defense. Most of their wins have come with some serious defensive plays. We lack players who make plays.
 

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I will say that at season's end, our defense will rank 20 and give up 28 points per game.
Lads, that type of play is unsustainable.
Zeke and the running game is what made the defense good enough last year. The defense can't give up points when it's not on the field.
 

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Sure would be nice to have barry church right now
He would only improve the run defense. He was as much or more of a liability against the pass as Heath.

They have been working Woods and Frazier in more and more. They used Awuzie when he has been healthy. One of those 3 likely replaces Heath by the end of the season and will likely be better than Church by then.
 

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But but but I thought we got Zeke to protect the defense!

Glad this stupid logic will forever die.

Kill it with fire.
 

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If we had concentrated on the D. Zeke wouldn’t of been a cowboy.
Quite true, good lad! That fact is not lost on me. Nosirrie. Well except when Zeke has struggled to be average this season. And when he is away for six games.
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Say, lowlands ruffian, I have always wanted to exclaim, on some gritty Philly Street, wearing a faux leather jacket and pointed Italian shoes while I munch on a hero Sammie . . . "Yo! Vinnie!"
Alright now. I will scratch tha off my bucket list ...
 

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Zeke and the running game is what made the defense good enough last year. The defense can't give up points when it's not on the field.

Highlands ruffian, you are correct.
Blimey! Does that painted face give you extra insight? If so, I will consider painting my august, stately face with the Union Jack. The library lady says I am whimsical. Such a face will make me thus more, don't you think, lad?
 
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