There Might Be Something to this Flournoy Kid in Time

Pass2Run said:
So, after recapping his rookie season, it's safe to say he did better than Jalen Tolbert, who I think had his best game in week 18.
Anyhow, if he spends some time learning from the likes of CeeDee and Cooks, etcetera, we may have ourselves a baller.

I'm actually in SEMO right now, where he's from. It's a crap hole, so I don't know how they found this kid. But his RAS is off the charts, and I really like what I see from him so far, even though he didn't have the best production. It took Tolbert a bit to start producing. I think this kid has every bit if not more potential than Tolbert.

Kellen Moore could work wonders with this kid.

Anyway, I got busy and missed most of the draft last year, but upon watching this season and seeing him around and learning more here and there, I think we may have something there.
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He's not better than tolbert, he might have more potential than tolbert, if that's what you're trying to say or he did more in his small sample size as a rookie then Tolbert, but tolbert was clearly our number three option and he has the numbers to prove it...

he's inconsistent, yes but Tolbert is better than this kid right now. You don't live on potential you live on who's on the field who's available and the stats that they have this year and right now Tolbert is better, and we can't say that Tolbert has peaked either...slow developer but has improved.

Well I'm hoping that whatever offensive coordinator and scheme we get in here is gonna be improved so we can really see what we have on our roster because it's hard to judge at last year was just terrible play calling terrible use of many players that could have been schemed better I mean he wasn't good.. Hard to judge players when they're in a bad scheme or just a bad year for play calls
 
Dallas is the place rookies careers go to die.

Actually, I did see something in Flournoy in preseason. I forget the game, I think it was Las Vegas, but Flournoy got playing time against the Raiders first string DBs. He was getting open because his route running was pretty good. I think with young kids like Fournoy you have to play them and show confidence in them. They will pick up on that and gain confidence in themselves.

The Cowboys, or maybe it's Dak, tend to focus on getting the ball to a few players like CeeDee, Fergusons, and sometimes Cooks. They are best when they spread the ball around.

In a crappy season like Dallas had, they should have been giving guys like Flournoy more chances. I do think his ceiling is higher than Tolbert's, and especially Brooks who I think is nothing more than a practice squad guy.

I'd like to see the new Cowboys coaches get more players involved on offense. It is best to find out what they have early so you can plan for the future.
 
Creeper said:
Dallas is the place rookies careers go to die.

Actually, I did see something in Flournoy in preseason. I forget the game, I think it was Las Vegas, but Flournoy got playing time against the Raiders first string DBs. He was getting open because his route running was pretty good. I think with young kids like Fournoy you have to play them and show confidence in them. They will pick up on that and gain confidence in themselves.

The Cowboys, or maybe it's Dak, tend to focus on getting the ball to a few players like CeeDee, Fergusons, and sometimes Cooks. They are best when they spread the ball around.

In a crappy season like Dallas had, they should have been giving guys like Flournoy more chances. I do think his ceiling is higher than Tolbert's, and especially Brooks who I think is nothing more than a practice squad guy.

I'd like to see the new Cowboys coaches get more players involved on offense. It is best to find out what they have early so you can plan for the future.
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Can you make a comment without a dramatic statement to start with did you really need to say this is where rookie careers go to die because the really good rookies they get really big money here did Prescott's career die ??I mean rookie of the year did lamb or Parsons, Bland, Diggs, Jlew, Overshown, Tank, Tyron, Gallup, OSA, sean lee, LVE, or anybody like I don't know Tyler Smith, I mean there's like too many to list, I just want to make sure you hear some of them, Ezekiel Elliott for the most part a career cowboy....

I mean these rookies seem to be evolving in the really good players. I mean Tolbert's career he's the one we're talking about here has not died he's actually a slow improver but he's definitely improving he doesn't seem to be developing fast but he's getting better he's probably not going to get off this team... Do you think Connor Beebe is going to have a bad career? I mean you think he's going to die here?

Some of them like Tony Pollard got the franchise tag yes he ended up somewhere else but his career did not die he got developed same with Armstrong Tyler biardish Connor Williams Connor McGovern etc some of them may not still be here but their careers didn't die...

I would say that the New York Jets the Cleveland Browns the Jaguars oh and Carolina Panthers have to be #1 where rookies go to die because how many receivers did they have and or let go just in the last year we have one of them here but I just want to make sure maybe you had the New York Giants in there or other teams that don't even develop players the Dallas Cowboys have one of the most highest paid as far as cap hits from their own homegrown drafted players they resign them on a regular basis I'm betting at a higher rate than the NFL average..
 
Redsfan_83 said:
Only problem with that theory is that we don't have a QB on staff who can read the field properly, and have an inability to let the play in front of him develop before panic time sets in
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The offensive playcaller will have to improve on passing play design , besides Cee Dee and Turpin not much separation was achieved from the WR core last season.Throwing passes into tight windows everytime you pass the ball is not a recipe for success.Speed at Wide receiver and running back and another starter on the offensive line should improve this offense in 25 . Play action and motion needs to be used more to help the Quarter Back .Dallas also should watch some old Tom Landry film and try to perfect the screen game that would wonders as well.
 
Pass2Run said:
So, after recapping his rookie season, it's safe to say he did better than Jalen Tolbert, who I think had his best game in week 18.
Anyhow, if he spends some time learning from the likes of CeeDee and Cooks, etcetera, we may have ourselves a baller.

I'm actually in SEMO right now, where he's from. It's a crap hole, so I don't know how they found this kid. But his RAS is off the charts, and I really like what I see from him so far, even though he didn't have the best production. It took Tolbert a bit to start producing. I think this kid has every bit if not more potential than Tolbert.

Kellen Moore could work wonders with this kid.

Anyway, I got busy and missed most of the draft last year, but upon watching this season and seeing him around and learning more here and there, I think we may have something there.
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I may be one of the few that think Tolbert did decent. He too shows some potential. But Brooks could pass him up. I agree, Flournoy looks to be a keeper. Maybe not a #1, but could improve to a solid #3 or even #2.
 
jazzcat22 said:
I may be one of the few that think Tolbert did decent. He too shows some potential. But Brooks could pass him up. I agree, Flournoy looks to be a keeper. Maybe not a #1, but could improve to a solid #3 or even #2.
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TBD INC we need to calm down about this kid I mean I get it it's possible but that's been said about a lot of early on what I call preseason heroes they flash here and there but let's be honest brooks has made more big plays even though they're very inconsistent and few and far between and I know he hasn't got as much playing time but there's gotta be a reason the coach is stuck with brooks over flournoy and maybe it was him holding a grudge like they did against hunter for that fumble I remember was it the first game he came in flournoy fumble and I don't think he got much time after that and then they worked him back in later that's a dumb part of this staff I'm glad we're all gone they ice our own players for no good reason.

If there were any season you wanna play with these experimentations and getting people involved it probably should have been a guy like flournoy over Mingo but you know how it goes... Whoever we hire I hope they know how to develop and work in these other players into the game plans because I feel bad for Rico and Turpin and it seems like they forgot how to throw to the tight end the whole back half of the year and I don't understand that either but they're being blamed you know the players for not producing but I'm blaming the offensive coordinator and the offensive staff and that's why i'm glad they're gone...
 
deerhunter11 said:
Dallas needs to draft a wide receiver who can be a deep threat , take the top off of the defense type of player .Pair this new weapen with Cee Dee and these young receivers ,I believe their is some potential at receiver already here with Tolbert Flournoy and Mingo.
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Exactly most of the players on our team our support group at wide receiver are all possession type receivers except for lamb he can do it all but we do need another guy but I don't think we need another small guy to do that we have Turpin if we keep him for sure he needs to be developed into the offense far more than he was with Mike McCarthy Mike McCarthy held this dude back in my opinion but we need a bigger guy we need an A.J. Brown with speed we need another Dez Bryant type someone who's tough 5050 balls but they can also take the top off we don't need another small guy that can come out of the slot or into motion we need an aj brown type maybe with a little more speed..

you know like a, DJ Metcalf type. That would perfectly complement lambs game IMHO I do believe Mingo was brought over here for that role even though he's a Major League developmental player his size and speed are why they thought he was worth bringing over and maybe we can develop him but we need an actual better version of him like I said DJ Metcalf that's a perfect example of what would work here..

So who in the draft looks like DJ Metcalf? By the way I did just look it up and DJ metcalf's on his last year of his contract he might be pride away from Seattle for the right price they have two other receivers over there they go to a lot... That could be the type of tree that could take the pressure off of getting a wide receiver in the draft... I'm not sure what Seattle thinks of them and how much they might want for them in draft capital but that would be something if i was a cowboys GM i'd look at him
 
Pass2Run said:
Yeah, I'm just saying. He got to play around him this year. Cooks will teach the young guys. He's known for that.
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Id brings back Brandon cooks as a 3 ,if the price was right ,he needs to get like a veteran base salary like you know a high one with a lot of incentives so the more he produces the more money he can make say up to $6 million but it needs to all be incentive base for it to workout
 
blueblood70 said:
Id brings back Brandon cooks as a 3 ,if the price was right ,he needs to get like a veteran base salary like you know a high one with a lot of incentives so the more he produces the more money he can make say up to $6 million but it needs to all be incentive base for it to workout
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I agree and draft speed at wide receiver to improve overall team chemistry , a number 2 with speed behind Cee Dee.
 
Pass2Run said:
So, after recapping his rookie season, it's safe to say he did better than Jalen Tolbert, who I think had his best game in week 18.
Anyhow, if he spends some time learning from the likes of CeeDee and Cooks, etcetera, we may have ourselves a baller.

I'm actually in SEMO right now, where he's from. It's a crap hole, so I don't know how they found this kid. But his RAS is off the charts, and I really like what I see from him so far, even though he didn't have the best production. It took Tolbert a bit to start producing. I think this kid has every bit if not more potential than Tolbert.

Kellen Moore could work wonders with this kid.

Anyway, I got busy and missed most of the draft last year, but upon watching this season and seeing him around and learning more here and there, I think we may have something there.
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So now do why if that is true that we used a 4th rounder on Mingo
 
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