There's something very familiar about all this

This reminds me a little of both the Campo and Garrett hires. Both followed a coach who was an outsider, Gailey and Wade, similar to MM. All three of the 'outsiders' were then replaced by an in-house coordinator who Jerry was comfortable with who would be less likely to rock the boat. Especially Campo, like Schott, who had no other HC offers and who both were long term career assistants. This is purely a comfort hire for Jerry (and Dak) as well as being a cheap hire.
 
CyberB0b said:
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We're seeing another Jason Garrett moment play out. After Wade was out, Garrett and the Cowboys started in with the company line saying that Garrett wanted to do X, but was overruled by Wade, which we know is BS. While Garrett implemented changes like full-pad practices, these were ultimately superficial. As offensive coordinator, he had a hand in shaping the offensive philosophy, which had become predictable and lacked innovation. He said the right things, but lacked actual substance. I see a similar problem with Schottenheimer so far.

Here's a few articles referencing this:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/8/16/2365943/dallas-cowboys-culture-change-jason-garrett
https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/...cle_29f27513-c0cc-5ad3-99e6-acf0f547d711.html





Now 15 years later, the Jones family is running the same playbook.



The problem is that they are trying to sell you on a champion of change, when he was a part of the problem. This type of move rarely happens on NFL teams and when it does, it usually goes poorly. A recent example is Antonio Pierce and the Raiders, who lasted only 1 full season.

This all leads back to the primary issue at hand. The culture can't change until the people actually running the football organization change. Ownership can remain in place, so long as they have a competent GM and are willing to part ways with them when they stop performing. A competent GM establishes a clear vision for the team, makes personnel decisions based on that vision (rather than marketing considerations), and hires coaches who align with that philosophy. They create an environment of accountability and competition, fostering a winning culture from the top down.

Promoting from within might seem like a safe bet, but it’s often a recipe for maintaining the status quo. Internal hires can find themselves entangled in existing power structures and entrenched routines, making it tough to ignite real transformation. For a genuine shake-up, a new coach needs the unwavering support of a general manager armed with a clear directive to revolutionize the team’s culture. We have none of that.
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No one with a brain can say that Shottenheimer is going to be good. He is a career OC guy that never had real success. His last name got him his first job and he was supposed to be a HC 10 plus years ago. Problem is he sucked at every stop. He would not have had a single interview for HC. Doubtful he would have received an interview for OC either. It’s an absolute joke he is the HC here.
 
Looking forward to the Jeanty era. Hand it off and kick some ***.
 
If you want to say no coach can truly change the culture under Jerry, fine.

But don't violate Schottenheimer's human rights by comparing him to Garrett.
 
Whyjerry said:
No one with a brain can say that Shottenheimer is going to be good. He is a career OC guy that never had real success. His last name got him his first job and he was supposed to be a HC 10 plus years ago. Problem is he sucked at every stop. He would not have had a single interview for HC. Doubtful he would have received an interview for OC either. It’s an absolute joke he is the HC here.
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No one with a brain can say he won’t be good either.
who said he was to be a HC 10 years. Many do not think they are ready at times. Even Ben Johnson turned down HC interviews last year.

How do you know he sucked every where he was. Maybe the entire team sucked. Maybe the HC sucked so he was not allowed to do his job correctly.
 
...Garrett wasn't football smart. He was a business/Ivy League oriented coach.

I get different feeling from Shotty.
 
CyberB0b said:
biff-tannen-back-to-the-future.gif


We're seeing another Jason Garrett moment play out. After Wade was out, Garrett and the Cowboys started in with the company line saying that Garrett wanted to do X, but was overruled by Wade, which we know is BS. While Garrett implemented changes like full-pad practices, these were ultimately superficial. As offensive coordinator, he had a hand in shaping the offensive philosophy, which had become predictable and lacked innovation. He said the right things, but lacked actual substance. I see a similar problem with Schottenheimer so far.

Here's a few articles referencing this:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/8/16/2365943/dallas-cowboys-culture-change-jason-garrett
https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/...cle_29f27513-c0cc-5ad3-99e6-acf0f547d711.html





Now 15 years later, the Jones family is running the same playbook.



The problem is that they are trying to sell you on a champion of change, when he was a part of the problem. This type of move rarely happens on NFL teams and when it does, it usually goes poorly. A recent example is Antonio Pierce and the Raiders, who lasted only 1 full season.

This all leads back to the primary issue at hand. The culture can't change until the people actually running the football organization change. Ownership can remain in place, so long as they have a competent GM and are willing to part ways with them when they stop performing. A competent GM establishes a clear vision for the team, makes personnel decisions based on that vision (rather than marketing considerations), and hires coaches who align with that philosophy. They create an environment of accountability and competition, fostering a winning culture from the top down.

Promoting from within might seem like a safe bet, but it’s often a recipe for maintaining the status quo. Internal hires can find themselves entangled in existing power structures and entrenched routines, making it tough to ignite real transformation. For a genuine shake-up, a new coach needs the unwavering support of a general manager armed with a clear directive to revolutionize the team’s culture. We have none of that.
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I met with Wade and his staff in San Angelo, back in the day. I was sitting with Garrett and asked him how much input Romo had on the play calling....he said, ZERO! I call the plays and he runs them. When Garrett took over, Romo started calling and changing plays at the line of scrimmage....that's why I always say, Garrett Sucks!
 
jazzcat22 said:
No one with a brain can say he won’t be good either.
who said he was to be a HC 10 years. Many do not think they are ready at times. Even Ben Johnson turned down HC interviews last year.

How do you know he sucked every where he was. Maybe the entire team sucked. Maybe the HC sucked so he was not allowed to do his job correctly.
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What a shameless homer…
 
Should sound familiar. Every head coach we've hire has come in talking about changing the culture. Once they're onboard any attempts to upset the Booger train are derailed quickly.

Maybe Schotty is baby Booger's hire and maybe baby Booger wants his own ring to prove to the old man he can put his pants on by himaelf.
 
CyberB0b said:
biff-tannen-back-to-the-future.gif


We're seeing another Jason Garrett moment play out. After Wade was out, Garrett and the Cowboys started in with the company line saying that Garrett wanted to do X, but was overruled by Wade, which we know is BS. While Garrett implemented changes like full-pad practices, these were ultimately superficial. As offensive coordinator, he had a hand in shaping the offensive philosophy, which had become predictable and lacked innovation. He said the right things, but lacked actual substance. I see a similar problem with Schottenheimer so far.

Here's a few articles referencing this:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/8/16/2365943/dallas-cowboys-culture-change-jason-garrett
https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/...cle_29f27513-c0cc-5ad3-99e6-acf0f547d711.html





Now 15 years later, the Jones family is running the same playbook.



The problem is that they are trying to sell you on a champion of change, when he was a part of the problem. This type of move rarely happens on NFL teams and when it does, it usually goes poorly. A recent example is Antonio Pierce and the Raiders, who lasted only 1 full season.

This all leads back to the primary issue at hand. The culture can't change until the people actually running the football organization change. Ownership can remain in place, so long as they have a competent GM and are willing to part ways with them when they stop performing. A competent GM establishes a clear vision for the team, makes personnel decisions based on that vision (rather than marketing considerations), and hires coaches who align with that philosophy. They create an environment of accountability and competition, fostering a winning culture from the top down.

Promoting from within might seem like a safe bet, but it’s often a recipe for maintaining the status quo. Internal hires can find themselves entangled in existing power structures and entrenched routines, making it tough to ignite real transformation. For a genuine shake-up, a new coach needs the unwavering support of a general manager armed with a clear directive to revolutionize the team’s culture. We have none of that.
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Very nice post.
Great job man.
 
This was a Stephen jones hire through and through. It was cheap, it was predictable and it’s going to fail.
 
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