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1) Assuming there is nothing to the Gregory rumor, our defensive ends, at least the top 3, look really good. Lawrence is Lawrence. Gregory was impressive. Charlton, not his best game, but other than the offsides, he didn't do anything noteworthy in terms of dumb play. Armstrong and Tapper didn't flash much, but those guys would be counted on as 4th and 5th DEs, and I can live with that.

2) Our outside CBs are legit. Both Awuzie and Jones have upper echelon skills and pairing them with Richard might pay off big time. In the slot, Lewis played decently and the best news is I never heard Brown's name, which is a good thing since he likes to pick up penalties. Ward made a few nice plays. Overall, the starting CBs should be great and depth should be decent.

3) I thought Looney held up well. It will be a different story in two weeks going against a really good Carolina front seven, but overall, he did nothing last night that made me worry. Williams seemed to play better last night as well but then again it's tough to tell with the mismatched OL.

4) The linebackers athleticism is certainly noticeable. Smith is so quick. He had a couple of plays that I thought he overran and the RB cut back for a decent gain, but overall with him, Thomas and then adding Lee and hopefully LVE, you have four guys that can move very well at the LB spot.

5) I was big on Scarborough but as others have noted correctly, Jackson seems like the better back now. Scarborough just looks to so and deliberate when he gets the ball. Now when he gets a head of steam going, he's a tough runner but at times it looked like he had an opportunity to get 3-4 yards by plowing ahead and kind of hesitated waiting for a hole to open up and he gained zero yards.

On the flipside...........

1) We really don't have a competent backup QB. White looked better than Rush but neither is ready to be a backup in a live NFL game. We might have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL from that perspective. Last night the Cardinals had Bradford, Glennon and Rosen. That depth dwarfs ours. I wonder what QBs might hit the waiver wire?

2) Gotta admit I am getting a bit nervous on Fleming. He's looked anywhere from poor to average. I thought he was a key signing but now I worry we may still have a swing tackle issue.

3) TE is a total wasteland and this front office botched that position IMO. In an offseason where they talked about getting Prescott as much help as they could, to give him this TE grouping is pretty sad. Gathers, with all his flaws, might be the best TE of the group and there was chatter he might not even make the 53.

4) S is another screw up by the front office. They had depth issues before they even went into August camp and let many of the, at least competent, names at S in FA run out and sign very friendly deals with other teams. I watched Jeron Johnson a bit last night and he was pretty bad. But that's to be expected when you sign a guy who hasn't played football in a year. Huff looked lost. Robinson? ehhh. Frazier being hurt is a pretty big deal and frankly, he's a limited S himself. This front office seems to pride itself on not panicking but guess what? It might be time to panic a bit.

5) I still worry about our DTs holding up in the run game. Woods has played decently and Crawford looked decent last night, but I worry about his size holding up over the course of a season. And what's behind Woods at the 1 Tech is really concerning. Price looks pretty bad. Ross? Yeah, no. Getting Collins back and getting a lot of reps should help (but they may play him again at the 1 Tech). Ward? Was he hurt last night? I think it's a shame that we finally have some playmakers at DE, LB and CB but that could be undone by poor choices at DT and S.
 
It’s kind of amazing how they have almost completely ignored the backup QB situation for years now.

I mean even in 2016 they got LUCKY that Dak turned out to be who he is. That season they had Kellen Moore and Dak as their back-ups. Odds were that Dak as a 4th rounder wasn’t going to be able to do anything.

That being said. I do think Mike White needs to stay on the roster to continue developing.

But they SHOULD HAVE signed a competent vet back-up and let Mike White stay the #3
 
Seems funny that our DL was once considered the crown jewel of being the weakest link on this team and OL was thought of as historic. Amazing how things can change in the course of two short years.
 
Seems funny that our DL was once considered the crown jewel of being the weakest link on this team and OL was thought of as historic. Amazing how things can change in the course of two short years.

In fairness, the OL, if healthy is still that good.

And the DL still has issues at DT IMO. They have a difference maker at DE in Lawrence and maybe another in Gregory. There is no such player at DT.
 
You're right they pooped the bed at TE. They are awful. Remember when Philly jumped ahead of us for Dallas Goedert? The current group is awful and with Rico even missing assignments it's clear he's the most talented of the group.

I'm more concerned at how Rush has regressed. He doesn't even look like the same QB. Who's that on??
 
3) TE is a total wasteland and this front office botched that position IMO. In an offseason where they talked about getting Prescott as much help as they could, to give him this TE grouping is pretty sad. Gathers, with all his flaws, might be the best TE of the group and there was chatter he might not even make the 53.

No one wants to admit it but, Philly got one over on us on draft day by trading up in front of us for that Dallas guy. Never know for sure if we would have taken him but they knew we needed one and scooped him up. Witten did us no favors with his retirement timing.
 
1) Assuming there is nothing to the Gregory rumor, our defensive ends, at least the top 3, look really good. Lawrence is Lawrence. Gregory was impressive. Charlton, not his best game, but other than the offsides, he didn't do anything noteworthy in terms of dumb play. Armstrong and Tapper didn't flash much, but those guys would be counted on as 4th and 5th DEs, and I can live with that.

2) Our outside CBs are legit. Both Awuzie and Jones have upper echelon skills and pairing them with Richard might pay off big time. In the slot, Lewis played decently and the best news is I never heard Brown's name, which is a good thing since he likes to pick up penalties. Ward made a few nice plays. Overall, the starting CBs should be great and depth should be decent.

3) I thought Looney held up well. It will be a different story in two weeks going against a really good Carolina front seven, but overall, he did nothing last night that made me worry. Williams seemed to play better last night as well but then again it's tough to tell with the mismatched OL.

4) The linebackers athleticism is certainly noticeable. Smith is so quick. He had a couple of plays that I thought he overran and the RB cut back for a decent gain, but overall with him, Thomas and then adding Lee and hopefully LVE, you have four guys that can move very well at the LB spot.

5) I was big on Scarborough but as others have noted correctly, Jackson seems like the better back now. Scarborough just looks to so and deliberate when he gets the ball. Now when he gets a head of steam going, he's a tough runner but at times it looked like he had an opportunity to get 3-4 yards by plowing ahead and kind of hesitated waiting for a hole to open up and he gained zero yards.

On the flipside...........

1) We really don't have a competent backup QB. White looked better than Rush but neither is ready to be a backup in a live NFL game. We might have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL from that perspective. Last night the Cardinals had Bradford, Glennon and Rosen. That depth dwarfs ours. I wonder what QBs might hit the waiver wire?

2) Gotta admit I am getting a bit nervous on Fleming. He's looked anywhere from poor to average. I thought he was a key signing but now I worry we may still have a swing tackle issue.

3) TE is a total wasteland and this front office botched that position IMO. In an offseason where they talked about getting Prescott as much help as they could, to give him this TE grouping is pretty sad. Gathers, with all his flaws, might be the best TE of the group and there was chatter he might not even make the 53.

4) S is another screw up by the front office. They had depth issues before they even went into August camp and let many of the, at least competent, names at S in FA run out and sign very friendly deals with other teams. I watched Jeron Johnson a bit last night and he was pretty bad. But that's to be expected when you sign a guy who hasn't played football in a year. Huff looked lost. Robinson? ehhh. Frazier being hurt is a pretty big deal and frankly, he's a limited S himself. This front office seems to pride itself on not panicking but guess what? It might be time to panic a bit.

5) I still worry about our DTs holding up in the run game. Woods has played decently and Crawford looked decent last night, but I worry about his size holding up over the course of a season. And what's behind Woods at the 1 Tech is really concerning. Price looks pretty bad. Ross? Yeah, no. Getting Collins back and getting a lot of reps should help (but they may play him again at the 1 Tech). Ward? Was he hurt last night? I think it's a shame that we finally have some playmakers at DE, LB and CB but that could be undone by poor choices at DT and S.
thoughtful piece keep it up
 
The Top 3 priorities for this team (as I see it)

1. Safety - There is simply not enough back there................
2. Backup quarterback - Cooper Rush has regressed...............Really far
3. Tight End - Do we even have a true starting NFL tight end ?
Look no team is set at every postion, they all have depth issues etc..I wouldn't panic yet but I agree

this wont be popular but if you truly want QWB depth and its important, you bring in Kap, he is the best out there and can come in and mimic daks game with no real fall off from playcalling standpoint.. His buddy Reid can also solve our S depth issues..I know I know not popular for that reason we cant talk about but these guys are starters still out there that might come in for reduced rates now that reality has hit..here we go key in no way we want these cancers here but its about winning and these guys are the best out there and fill needs immediately..

TE let this play out I have feeling once we are actually game planning and scheming and Dak plays all 4 Qtrs the depth chart on these guys will work themselves out..
 
That sad part is that anybody with 1/2 a brain could have seen TE and S problems coming from a mile away.

Also backup OT: when a 26 year old OT sits on the free agent market and signs a 1 year $3M deal, it’s the rest of the league telling you that guy can’t play. For whatever reason fans here ran with the fact that Fleming is good...We basically still have to cross our fingers that Tyron can stay healthy.


We also have to hope the front office isn’t too stuborn/naive to look for help after cuts. There should be at least OL/DL and probably backup QB help as well.
 
Look no team is set at every postion, they all have depth issues etc..I wouldn't panic yet but I agree

this wont be popular but if you truly want QWB depth and its important, you bring in Kap, he is the best out there and can come in and mimic daks game with no real fall off from playcalling standpoint.. His buddy Reid can also solve our S depth issues..I know I know not popular for that reason we cant talk about but these guys are starters still out there that might come in for reduced rates now that reality has hit..here we go key in no way we want these cancers here but its about winning and these guys are the best out there and fill needs immediately..

TE let this play out I have feeling once we are actually game planning and scheming and Dak plays all 4 Qtrs the depth chart on these guys will work themselves out..

I agree except with the tight ends.................Dak playing isn't going to magically make the knuckleheads we have remember their assignments...........
 
In fairness, the OL, if healthy is still that good.

And the DL still has issues at DT IMO. They have a difference maker at DE in Lawrence and maybe another in Gregory. There is no such player at DT.

My own opinion of the DT positions have improved considerably. By all indications, we've found our starting one tech at this point in Woods. That's huge for me. I didn't expect anything from Ward and I haven't been disappointed. He disappeared once the pads came on.

Moving Crawford back inside was the right move. I just hope he's not too light to hold up. But I expect to see him there in passing situations more than running downs.

I hope injury doesn't derail Datone Jones chances to make this team.
 
I still don't see why everyone is harping about the TE's. They are not all that bad. Not great, but not horrible either.
I can still see them drafting a TE high in the draft next year. But I think we will better than most think.

FO still so stupid about the S's though.
I feel better about DT with Crawford moving back inside. He made plays last night, as to when at DE the previous 2 games, he did not make plays, well maybe 1 play.

I never thought they should have drafted White at QB, should have went the vet route. But after last night, I have him ahead of Rush now. But still that is not saying much. Maybe Keellen Moore is not such a good idea as QB coach either.

Could not get a feel about the WR's last night, because of such bad OL and QB play.

Still not impressed with Bo, never wanted him drafted either. I do like what I see from Darius though. But is it enough to make the roster.

OL depth is just shambles. What looked goo going into TC, not so much now.

I really like the D overall, and once Collins is back playing, I think we can be decent at DT, with Crawford there, and especially when Irving returns.

CB's look very good, S's, no depth, everyone seems injured. And when they are healthy, how good are they anyway with Richard here. We will not know until all are ready to play.

Lenoir, I think he goofed his way to the PS again. I do not want him back there returning punts. He scared me last year when they constantly put him back there, and again this year. He is a gambler. And we seen what those gambles did last night. Oh, has he ever had a great return either. Maybe a few decent ones. But his gambles would cost us games.
Give me Noah Brown over Lenoir.
 
No one wants to admit it but, Philly got one over on us on draft day by trading up in front of us for that Dallas guy. Never know for sure if we would have taken him but they knew we needed one and scooped him up. Witten did us no favors with his retirement timing.

I don't think they had interest in taking Goeddert anyway.

And my reasoning for that is that they didn't even entertain any FA tight ends. I think they there were completely happy with what they had and didn't think they needed to add anyone other than a late round project.
 
What I see in Looney, while he is not Travis Fredrick I think he will do a fine job for the Cowboys. I feel a bit better seeing Looney these past 2 games.

If we have Tyron and Zach and Collins out there, and Williams will continually get better. I am fine with Looney until Travis returns. Be it 2 games, or 6 games, or 8 games. They should be fine.
 
I still don't see why everyone is harping about the TE's. They are not all that bad. Not great, but not horrible either.
I can still see them drafting a TE high in the draft next year. But I think we will better than most think.

FO still so stupid about the S's though.
I feel better about DT with Crawford moving back inside. He made plays last night, as to when at DE the previous 2 games, he did not make plays, well maybe 1 play.

I never thought they should have drafted White at QB, should have went the vet route. But after last night, I have him ahead of Rush now. But still that is not saying much. Maybe Keellen Moore is not such a good idea as QB coach either.

Could not get a feel about the WR's last night, because of such bad OL and QB play.

Still not impressed with Bo, never wanted him drafted either. I do like what I see from Darius though. But is it enough to make the roster.

OL depth is just shambles. What looked goo going into TC, not so much now.

I really like the D overall, and once Collins is back playing, I think we can be decent at DT, with Crawford there, and especially when Irving returns.

CB's look very good, S's, no depth, everyone seems injured. And when they are healthy, how good are they anyway with Richard here. We will not know until all are ready to play.

Lenoir, I think he goofed his way to the PS again. I do not want him back there returning punts. He scared me last year when they constantly put him back there, and again this year. He is a gambler. And we seen what those gambles did last night. Oh, has he ever had a great return either. Maybe a few decent ones. But his gambles would cost us games.
Give me Noah Brown over Lenoir.

You have blinders on at TE. They are a mediocre, at best, group. The only hope is that Gathers somehow starts to really put it together. He's the only one with an upper level TE skill set. The others are just JAGs.
 

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