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I don't think they had interest in taking Goeddert anyway.

And my reasoning for that is that they didn't even entertain any FA tight ends. I think they there were completely happy with what they had and didn't think they needed to add anyone.

I think they reached for Schultz and could have waited to draft a TE.
Probably will draft one next year regardless of what this group does.

I can see their reasoning by waiting to see what this group can do. I still say they are not as bad as people think.
But I bet it will be a whine fest all year long. Because we don't have a Gronk type TE to replace a slowed down Witten.
 
No one wants to admit it but, Philly got one over on us on draft day by trading up in front of us for that Dallas guy. Never know for sure if we would have taken him but they knew we needed one and scooped him up. Witten did us no favors with his retirement timing.


Cowboys had no interest in Goedert, if Conner hadn't dropped in their lap, they were going to trade for Thomas
 
The safety problem can be fixed at least. All they have to do- is "do the dam* thing!!!" come on down ET.
 
You have blinders on at TE. They are a mediocre, at best, group. The only hope is that Gathers somehow starts to really put it together. He's the only one with an upper level TE skill set. The others are just JAGs.

No I do not have blinders on. It is my opinion, so don't tell me what I can see and not see.
I hope Rico can get it together, he probably needs reps more than anyone else. But will the coaches give him those, and will they trust him in actual games. I want to see him more in this last PS game.

But the other TE's are not horrible either. Stop gap players until next years draft, probably. But so are quite a few other players.
 
I'm more concerned at how Rush has regressed. He doesn't even look like the same QB. Who's that on??
The one thing that has changed since last year is the QB coach...
 
The one thing that has changed since last year is the QB coach...

Yep, and Linny and JG are QB coaches as well.

The TE coach was an OC last year.

ST's coach was an afterthought as well.......
 
I think the backup QB, WR and second-string offense situations are as much a product of crappy offensive design as anything. When you don't have great players at pretty much every position Garrett's offense fails miserably.
 
No I do not have blinders on. It is my opinion, so don't tell me what I can see and not see.
I hope Rico can get it together, he probably needs reps more than anyone else. But will the coaches give him those, and will they trust him in actual games. I want to see him more in this last PS game.

But the other TE's are not horrible either. Stop gap players until next years draft, probably. But so are quite a few other players.

Stop gap is basically not good enough. There were some vet TEs out there that could have helped.

The front office simply overestimated the skill set of this TE group. That's pretty obvious.
 
I enjoyed seeing Kris raging at the defense
would've like to see Garrett get animated with such a sloppy showing preseason or not
Lenoir has been the camp darling, I don't think people should expect him to be cut over failing miserably at a job he isn't going to be assigned to (returner - that will be Beasley, Tavon or Thompson I would bet) but he didn't help himself at all from what I saw
Joe Thomas I hope isn't on PEDs or something, that dude is an animal all the sudden and it's amazingly good for this team
looks like they were playing Taco at RDE on early downs
Frazier was balling before the shoulder dislocation, really like our SSs Heath & Fraizer -could love our FSs as well if it were Xavier and some other dude not on the team
 
No one wants to admit it but, Philly got one over on us on draft day by trading up in front of us for that Dallas guy. Never know for sure if we would have taken him but they knew we needed one and scooped him up. Witten did us no favors with his retirement timing.

Say what you want about the decisionmaking (you may be right), but the Cowboys weren't interested in Dallas Goedert. They wouldn't have drafted him anyway. Connor Williams was their guy. If he was gone, they were trading that pick for Earl Thomas, not drafting Goedert.
 
1) Assuming there is nothing to the Gregory rumor, our defensive ends, at least the top 3, look really good. Lawrence is Lawrence. Gregory was impressive. Charlton, not his best game, but other than the offsides, he didn't do anything noteworthy in terms of dumb play. Armstrong and Tapper didn't flash much, but those guys would be counted on as 4th and 5th DEs, and I can live with that.

2) Our outside CBs are legit. Both Awuzie and Jones have upper echelon skills and pairing them with Richard might pay off big time. In the slot, Lewis played decently and the best news is I never heard Brown's name, which is a good thing since he likes to pick up penalties. Ward made a few nice plays. Overall, the starting CBs should be great and depth should be decent.

3) I thought Looney held up well. It will be a different story in two weeks going against a really good Carolina front seven, but overall, he did nothing last night that made me worry. Williams seemed to play better last night as well but then again it's tough to tell with the mismatched OL.

4) The linebackers athleticism is certainly noticeable. Smith is so quick. He had a couple of plays that I thought he overran and the RB cut back for a decent gain, but overall with him, Thomas and then adding Lee and hopefully LVE, you have four guys that can move very well at the LB spot.

5) I was big on Scarborough but as others have noted correctly, Jackson seems like the better back now. Scarborough just looks to so and deliberate when he gets the ball. Now when he gets a head of steam going, he's a tough runner but at times it looked like he had an opportunity to get 3-4 yards by plowing ahead and kind of hesitated waiting for a hole to open up and he gained zero yards.

On the flipside...........

1) We really don't have a competent backup QB. White looked better than Rush but neither is ready to be a backup in a live NFL game. We might have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL from that perspective. Last night the Cardinals had Bradford, Glennon and Rosen. That depth dwarfs ours. I wonder what QBs might hit the waiver wire?

2) Gotta admit I am getting a bit nervous on Fleming. He's looked anywhere from poor to average. I thought he was a key signing but now I worry we may still have a swing tackle issue.

3) TE is a total wasteland and this front office botched that position IMO. In an offseason where they talked about getting Prescott as much help as they could, to give him this TE grouping is pretty sad. Gathers, with all his flaws, might be the best TE of the group and there was chatter he might not even make the 53.

4) S is another screw up by the front office. They had depth issues before they even went into August camp and let many of the, at least competent, names at S in FA run out and sign very friendly deals with other teams. I watched Jeron Johnson a bit last night and he was pretty bad. But that's to be expected when you sign a guy who hasn't played football in a year. Huff looked lost. Robinson? ehhh. Frazier being hurt is a pretty big deal and frankly, he's a limited S himself. This front office seems to pride itself on not panicking but guess what? It might be time to panic a bit.

5) I still worry about our DTs holding up in the run game. Woods has played decently and Crawford looked decent last night, but I worry about his size holding up over the course of a season. And what's behind Woods at the 1 Tech is really concerning. Price looks pretty bad. Ross? Yeah, no. Getting Collins back and getting a lot of reps should help (but they may play him again at the 1 Tech). Ward? Was he hurt last night? I think it's a shame that we finally have some playmakers at DE, LB and CB but that could be undone by poor choices at DT and S.

Lets be honest................the ONLY reason anyone is pumped about the Dline is because of the addition of Gregory. Taco is not a pressure guy. If Gregory slips up again then we are right back to where we were.

Safeties are horrid. They completely bumbled the handling of the safety position in the offseason and we are paying the price already.
 
You have blinders on at TE. They are a mediocre, at best, group. The only hope is that Gathers somehow starts to really put it together. He's the only one with an upper level TE skill set. The others are just JAGs.

I didn't see Swaim do anything really poorly last night.
 
we also learned that there are way to manypreseason games I don't watch any of them any more except the cowboys and am now leaning to not watching them
 
Stop gap is basically not good enough. There were some vet TEs out there that could have helped.

The front office simply overestimated the skill set of this TE group. That's pretty obvious.

Well, the more overlooked area was at S. So they are better at TE than S.
I will wait and see how the TE's do in a real game, game planned with all the starters out there.
Actually same for what few S's we have left. See if Richard has them coached up to be a difference.
 
Lets be honest................the ONLY reason anyone is pumped about the Dline is because of the addition of Gregory. Taco is not a pressure guy. If Gregory slips up again then we are right back to where we were.

Safeties are horrid. They completely bumbled the handling of the safety position in the offseason and we are paying the price already.
Gregory is the icing on top
give me another 1 tech for depth and I'm good

I like the safety situation fine except the depth at FS
Heath and Woods are good at SS and Woods might be pretty good at FS too
problem is we don't know but we do know there's no one behind him
 

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