This is getting scary (Ai-related)

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I read this this am. Who knows what the guys deal is, maybe he has been this way his entire life, The sky is falling. Personally I’m loving this ai world, let’s see where we go with it.
 
If I were a billionaire I'd build a lavish underground bunker too. Why perish in flames when you can live out the rest of your life semi-comfortably if you have the money. It's unfortunate that the first guy to go public and make headlines after quitting his company was the nerd from Google who thought the chatbot was becoming his intimate friend. Sets a bad precedent for the true whistle blowers.

I mess around with AI all day at work and for fun at home and it still makes a frustrating amount of mistakes and is overrated. So my worry isn't the machine, it's the dumb humans who don't realize the limitations of the machine and believe the hype. (Yes Pentagon, I'm looking your way). Everyone is caught up on Terminator and Skynet, or the Matrix and human hives, but maybe we should have just paid more attention to that early 80's movie Wargames. Dumb robot kills the world because dumb humans give it abilities it has no business running.
 
I read this this am. Who knows what the guys deal is, maybe he has been this way his entire life, The sky is falling. Personally I’m loving this ai world, let’s see where we go with it.
This is not one guy. He’s the latest AI industry insider in a long line to speak out.

The AI interface tool you use is not the application that has people worried.
 
If I were a billionaire I'd build a lavish underground bunker too. Why perish in flames when you can live out the rest of your life semi-comfortably if you have the money. It's unfortunate that the first guy to go public and make headlines after quitting his company was the nerd from Google who thought the chatbot was becoming his intimate friend. Sets a bad precedent for the true whistle blowers.

I mess around with AI all day at work and for fun at home and it still makes a frustrating amount of mistakes and is overrated. So my worry isn't the machine, it's the dumb humans who don't realize the limitations of the machine and believe the hype. (Yes Pentagon, I'm looking your way). Everyone is caught up on Terminator and Skynet, or the Matrix and human hives, but maybe we should have just paid more attention to that early 80's movie Wargames. Dumb robot kills the world because dumb humans give it abilities it has no business running.
You think this the first person to go public?
 
Another Anthropic employee sounds the alarm on AI.

When AI researchers/engineers are signing petitions for the government to intervene, quiting their jobs in protest, and tech billionaires are building bunkers (see Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, Zuckerberg, etc) we should all be alarmed.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/09/tech/ai-anthropic-safety

https://www.tmz.com/2026/09/09/ai-researcher-quits-job-after-fears-of-robots-taking-over-humans/
Before you read this know that I am not debating about the validity of the concerns that AI is introducing to the world.

That said, (and this is a realistic assessment) protesting US companies is not going to stop AI, so I fail to understand what the point or goal of these stances, protests, etc. are?

China's AI industry is exploding just like the US and the same is happening with other countries in the world as well though the US and China seem to have advanced the most so far.

China's AI LLMs are not far behind those in the US and China is starting to produce their own AI related chips to reduce their dependency on Nvidia and other companies and to overcome the already tight restrictions in place for exports of AI hardware like higher end GPUs.

At some point the US government will put regulations in place on the AI industry, but even with those regulations, it's only going to slow down the US while having little to no impact on the rest of the world.

I really am curious if you know of any realistic ideas on how to slow down the AI evolution on a global level.
 
Before you read this know that I am not debating about the validity of the concerns that AI is introducing to the world.

That said, (and this is a realistic assessment) protesting US companies is not going to stop AI, so I fail to understand what the point or goal of these stances, protests, etc. are?

China's AI industry is exploding just like the US and the same is happening with other countries in the world as well though the US and China seem to have advanced the most so far.

China's AI LLMs are not far behind those in the US and China is starting to produce their own AI related chips to reduce their dependency on Nvidia and other companies and to overcome the already tight restrictions in place for exports of AI hardware like higher end GPUs.

At some point the US government will put regulations in place on the AI industry, but even with those regulations, it's only going to slow down the US while having little to no impact on the rest of the world.

I really am curious if you know of any realistic ideas on how to slow down the AI evolution on a global level.
From what Ive heard.(not sure if it's credible) that China is funding the anti data centers movement in the United States to scare all the gullible looking for a boogeyman.
 
I will preface this with the fact that I work "with" AI professionally, but I don't work for a major AI players or model creators.

Just so everyone is aware. There is a social-war going on around AI. It's unquestionably about what AI actually means. It's about power, greed, and fear as a tool to control AI.

Influencers and pretty much anyone who could have some sort of impact on public opinion are being offered money left and right to talk pro or negatively about AI in an attempt to sway public opinion and trigger government action.

The CEOs of the AI companies are intentionally creation a perception in an attempt to force governmental control so that they can consolidate power around it and therefore consolidate everything that comes with it. That includes China and even US companies in some cases.

There are fear-mongers also trying to do this from the anti-AI side to accomplish the same thing. Then there are "parrots" who are just repeating the ignorance and fear-mongering because they've been duped by other fear-mongering.

In truth, AI is not a genie that is going to put back in the bottle, but it's also not what everyone is saying it is.

I'm not here to BS you, but I will tell you this. Is AI dangerous? AI itself is not, what is is how PEOPLE will use it. AI war machines can make decisions faster than humans can. AI can find vulnerabilities faster than humans can. This is truly a scary things, but the opposite is also true. AI can find and report issues very quickly to secure the very threat that AI can locate.

What I'm trying to say is it's a two-way street. What that means in real-life is, you absolutely cannot ignore or stifle AI's advancement. You must ride the wave of it. If you don't, someone else will and you will be even more vulnerable to it.

AI uses enormous amounts of power: Yes, this is 100% true. You obviously can't throw everything at it, but the US has a major advantage. It has resources most other countries do not have. This is an advantage, but other countries are also catching up.

China is copying our models and that is a threat: Yes, but it's also a benefit. These open source models bring both the price of AI down and their technology that makes this more efficient (power and hardware wise) is falling quickly. Memory, GPUs, and storage are sky-high right now, but AI's requirements are dropping quickly. (careful if you are investing in Nvidia, SK Hynix, Samsung, Micron, etc) They are spending enormous amounts of money and the need is going to collapse when the data center buildout collapses. (it will)

In the end, open source models are extremely important, but while OpenAI, Meta, and Anthropic will say yes they are important. In truth, they have no way to pay investors back the hundreds of billions of dollars they took in when AI becomes a commodity.

AI is already running on your smartphone. Anthropic is charging enormous amounts of money for tokens that free open source models charge cents for. This is a threat to their business model. The fact that hardware requirements are dropping quickly and the technology that makes it happen is open source is a direct threat to their service! Soon, for the price of a computer, you will have a private AI you can run at home without paying OpenAI, Anthropic, or Meta.

Lets talk about jobs. Will AI displace jobs? Yes, some of them. Will it displace a majority of jobs? Absolutely not. Actually, it will change your job in one form or another. AI isn't a 100% replacement. I'm an IT guy who does infrastructure, software development, security, and hardware and networks. I'm an Internet and Enterprise architect. My job has changed immensely, but my core knowledge (domain knowledge) is incredibly important because AI alone cannot take over my position. It only changed how I work.

Today, I use AI as a partner. It helps accelerate how I work. My job has become more oversight and project management. I do the architecture and I use AI to help validate what I'm doing, but I also validate what AI thinks we should do. AI doesn't have domain knowledge of my environment, so while it makes suggestions. I determine if those suggestions work in my environment. AI will tell you this is what you should do, but real-world experience in your working environment may not agree with that. That is your job, you ensure that doesn't happen.

To prove my point. Do your own research about companies that laid off people because of AI and ended up hiring them back. IBM, you name it. They all have done it. The job doesn't get eliminated. The job changes.

If there is one thing I can share with all my Cowboys fans brotherhood. Embrace AI. It is not going away and it is going to change how you operate in the future. Those who know how to use it efficiently, are the ones that will have jobs, because those jobs will demand it. Those who don't will get left behind.

Roughly, 60% of occupations today, did not exist in 1940. Note, the industrial revolution was in the 1800s, yet that sixty percent still remains true. Most jobs in 1980 did not involve a computer. Almost all of them do today. The internet and e-commerce? Yes, they are all in the last 30+ years. Tapes, 8-tracks, CDs, albums. All gone, streaming and smartphones have changed things.

AI is the next major technological movement. You can get on board or you will fall behind. Yes, people will try to abuse it, but that is why we need the collective world population to also rise up and fight the abuse and outpace it. Not run and hide to only become a lamb taken to the slaughter.

You can change or get left behind...

One recommendation I would have is to learn how AI actually works. (read about it!) You would be surprised to find out that it's only a probability machine. It doesn't actually "think" the way you believe humans think. Most of the time, it doesn't know the next word it's going to say until after it said the previous word. In the statement "The capital of Texas is Austin." It didn't know it was going to say Austin until it did math AFTER it said "The capital of Texas is". It did the math and determined the most probable next word was Austin. It didn't actually know the answer was Austin until the math said it was. (ie, it didn't know what it was saying until it actually said it!)
 
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From what Ive heard.(not sure if it's credible) that China is funding the anti data centers movement in the United States to scare all the gullible looking for a boogeyman.
It's possible but I'm sure a large part of that is people wanting to protect their communities, power grids and resources. I think the size and speed of which the data centers are being built is exacerbating the problem even more.
 
Before you read this know that I am not debating about the validity of the concerns that AI is introducing to the world.

That said, (and this is a realistic assessment) protesting US companies is not going to stop AI, so I fail to understand what the point or goal of these stances, protests, etc. are?

China's AI industry is exploding just like the US and the same is happening with other countries in the world as well though the US and China seem to have advanced the most so far.

China's AI LLMs are not far behind those in the US and China is starting to produce their own AI related chips to reduce their dependency on Nvidia and other companies and to overcome the already tight restrictions in place for exports of AI hardware like higher end GPUs.

At some point the US government will put regulations in place on the AI industry, but even with those regulations, it's only going to slow down the US while having little to no impact on the rest of the world.

I really am curious if you know of any realistic ideas on how to slow down the AI evolution on a global level.
Absolutely! It's like the RIAA trying to stop MP3s. There was no way to put that genie back in the bottle!
 
From what Ive heard.(not sure if it's credible) that China is funding the anti data centers movement in the United States to scare all the gullible looking for a boogeyman.
Zero doubt, but get this. They are providing open source models which is a global benefit! Even here in the US. The major AI providers are using the very technology that China is producing! The AI race is world wide and contributions are coming from everywhere! The major contributions are coming from the US and China and even France.
 
LLMs are not conscious or sentient. They don’t create new knowledge. They calculate probabilities on what the next word should be in a response. They don’t know anything that we don’t know. I’m no expert, but I don’t understand the fear.
 
LLMs are not conscious or sentient. They don’t create new knowledge. They calculate probabilities on what the next word should be in a response. They don’t know anything that we don’t know. I’m no expert, but I don’t understand the fear.
You obviously haven’t seen The Terminator :cool:
 
Before you read this know that I am not debating about the validity of the concerns that AI is introducing to the world.

That said, (and this is a realistic assessment) protesting US companies is not going to stop AI, so I fail to understand what the point or goal of these stances, protests, etc. are?

China's AI industry is exploding just like the US and the same is happening with other countries in the world as well though the US and China seem to have advanced the most so far.

China's AI LLMs are not far behind those in the US and China is starting to produce their own AI related chips to reduce their dependency on Nvidia and other companies and to overcome the already tight restrictions in place for exports of AI hardware like higher end GPUs.

At some point the US government will put regulations in place on the AI industry, but even with those regulations, it's only going to slow down the US while having little to no impact on the rest of the world.

I really am curious if you know of any realistic ideas on how to slow down the AI evolution on a global level.
The issue is there are zero guardrails in place. It should be telling when AI leaders like Sam Altman are asking for moratoriums and government intervention to put regulations in place.

You can take the glib/jaded perspective and say, “oh, these CEOs just want regulation to slow down competition,” but that doesn’t comport with more than 1,100 AI insiders from all the major AI companies petitioning for government oversight.

We are creating a super intelligence that we have long known and anticipated would not be aligned with our well being or preservation, and cannot be contained once released.

I would highly suggest folks get caught up on the latest event that has insiders on red alert (OpenAi/hugging face attack).

 
LLMs are not conscious or sentient. They don’t create new knowledge. They calculate probabilities on what the next word should be in a response. They don’t know anything that we don’t know. I’m no expert, but I don’t understand the fear.
No offense, but you are not apprised of what AGI is which is what the concern is. I don’t mean that in a demeaning way. We aren’t talking about typing a prompt into ChatGPT asking what ingredients make up the best chocolate chip cookie recipe.

You are free to believe what you want. I won’t argue with you.
 
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The issue is there are zero guardrails in place. It should be telling when AI leaders like Sam Altman are asking for moratoriums and government intervention to put regulations in place.

You can take the glib/jaded perspective and say, “oh, these CEOs just want regulation to slow down competition,” but that doesn’t comport with more than 1,100 AI insiders from all the major AI companies petitioning for government oversight.

We are creating a super intelligence that we have long known and anticipated would not be aligned with our well being or preservation, and cannot be contained once released.

I would highly suggest folks get caught up on the latest event that has insiders on red alert (OpenAi/hugging face attack).


I knew about the OpenAI/HF attack right after it happened, and I agree, that's a perfect example of what can happen even when guardrails are in place.

I have a different theory why the CEOs are asking the government to regulate the industry and while maybe on some level its to limit competition, I think the main reason is they want to slow everyone down because they all believe they can train much better AI LLMs if they were not being pushed to maintain relevancy by constantly releasing new models.

For example, instead several version x.1/x.2, etc. releases, they could actually produce higher quality AI LLMs if they could release x.0/x.5 versions with a long duration between releases.

As it is, they cannot do that because one of their competitiors is releasing them just as fast as they are and the revenue models they have would suffer during the release lull periods if they were the only ones releasing a new model every few months.

Again though, I'm not discounting or debating your concerns because they are quite valid and I think most people are worried on some level.

The question I asked though is the same .. how do you restrict AI on a global level when you know some countries are not going honor it privately regardless of what they claim they're doing publicly?

Until we have an answer for that, I just don't see a way to slow down the AI progression.

It reminds me of the early days of viruses (this was before the internet) when people asked, "How do I avoid computer viruses?" and the answer was simple .. never connect a modem and never install or run any new programs.

I don't see the world disconnecting and I don't trust any of the countries to restrain their AI research and advancements even if they publicly say they will.
 
It's possible but I'm sure a large part of that is people wanting to protect their communities, power grids and resources. I think the size and speed of which the data centers are being built is exacerbating the problem even more.
All that is fear mongering. In Texas they want data centers to operate on their own dedicated power grids. I don't want data centers right smack dab in residential areas either.
 

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