This is no way to get us up & running

[Kangaroo]

I am sorry I was in Houston when Ike blew through I went over two weeks with out power. Guess what we prepared for that we had water, extra gas vehicles topped off etc. Ontop of that I had tree fall on my roof I was trying to deal with that and by day three i had to be in at work because I work at a hospital.

So much *****ing from NY because they did not do what they needed to do before hand and prepare for the storm. I am sorry way to much whining and not enough sucking up and dealing with the stuff at hand.

Yes the mayor is stupid for still holding the marathon.

I hate some of the mentality of people down here we just started picking things up, cleaning up and kept moving forward.

 

[TheCount]

I am sorry I was in Houston when Ike blew through I went over two weeks with out power. Guess what we prepared for that we had water, extra gas vehicles topped off etc. Ontop of that I had tree fall on my roof I was trying to deal with that and by day three i had to be in at work because I work at a hospital.

So much *****ing from NY because they did not do what they needed to do before hand and prepare for the storm. I am sorry way to much whining and not enough sucking up and dealing with the stuff at hand.

Yes the mayor is stupid for still holding the marathon.

I hate some of the mentality of people down here we just started picking things up, cleaning up and kept moving forward.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[dez_for_prez]

I am sorry I was in Houston when Ike blew through I went over two weeks with out power. Guess what we prepared for that we had water, extra gas vehicles topped off etc. Ontop of that I had tree fall on my roof I was trying to deal with that and by day three i had to be in at work because I work at a hospital.

So much *****ing from NY because they did not do what they needed to do before hand and prepare for the storm. I am sorry way to much whining and not enough sucking up and dealing with the stuff at hand.

Yes the mayor is stupid for still holding the marathon.

I hate some of the mentality of people down here we just started picking things up, cleaning up and kept moving forward.

 

[a_minimalist]

I am sorry I was in Houston when Ike blew through I went over two weeks with out power. Guess what we prepared for that we had water, extra gas vehicles topped off etc. Ontop of that I had tree fall on my roof I was trying to deal with that and by day three i had to be in at work because I work at a hospital.

So much *****ing from NY because they did not do what they needed to do before hand and prepare for the storm. I am sorry way to much whining and not enough sucking up and dealing with the stuff at hand.

Yes the mayor is stupid for still holding the marathon.

I hate some of the mentality of people down here we just started picking things up, cleaning up and kept moving forward.

What are you even saying? Did NYC not treat you right one time?

 

[Faerluna]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Uh, this.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

I am sorry I was in Houston when Ike blew through I went over two weeks with out power. Guess what we prepared for that we had water, extra gas vehicles topped off etc. Ontop of that I had tree fall on my roof I was trying to deal with that and by day three i had to be in at work because I work at a hospital.

So much *****ing from NY because they did not do what they needed to do before hand and prepare for the storm. I am sorry way to much whining and not enough sucking up and dealing with the stuff at hand.

Yes the mayor is stupid for still holding the marathon.

I hate some of the mentality of people down here we just started picking things up, cleaning up and kept moving forward.

Living in a climate where severe weather ( in my case, cold weather) can be life threatening, you prepare for the worst as a matter of course. From watching accounts from various networks, it appears that there was a fundamental disconnect between the authorities, who repeatedly warned people to prepare, evacuate, etc, and those who believed they could "ride it out" like with previous storms. As the biggest they'd ever seen storm hit a very densley popluated area, it became pretty clear that people still believed that they were not responsible for their own predicament. There were, unfortuneately, those who did not have the means to get out on their own. There are plenty of stories of those who were prepared who came to their rescue. For those people, I tip my hat. Very few people get through a tragedy like this on their own.

I hope that folks see this as a wake-up call to prepare for civil emergencies and pay attention to their local government's disaster preparation. I've been involved with my local community's disaster plan, but I believe I'm in the minority. Watching Chris Christie get upset with prople who refused to evacuate in New Jersey was understandable, but frustrating.

The situation is not over by a long shot. I've got a friend who's a Red Cross volunteer from my community who is being sent to New York to aid in the relief effort. She has been to Haiti after the earthquake and she was told to expect similar numbers of people that will require help in surviving the next few weeks. There are still peole without the necessasry resources to last much longer and communities will be tested repeatedly over the next while. With another storm, albeit smaller, about to impact the same area, it will be tough to get in to already ravaged areas.

I believe that where you're from and your experience in dealing with nasty weather will frame your view of this pst week and the weeks ahead. My thoughts and well-wishes go out to those who are trying. My contempt is reserved for those who throw eggs at Utility Workers and those who refuse to help the guy next door. My absolute hate is focused on those who exploit the situation for criminal means. Looters and scammers get a special place in hell.

For any Zoners experiencing the disaster first-hand, my thoughts and hopes for a speedy recovery.

 

[JBond]

Living in a climate where severe weather ( in my case, cold weather) can be life threatening, you prepare for the worst as a matter of course. From watching accounts from various networks, it appears that there was a fundamental disconnect between the authorities, who repeatedly warned people to prepare, evacuate, etc, and those who believed they could "ride it out" like with previous storms. As the biggest they'd ever seen storm hit a very densley popluated area, it became pretty clear that people still believed that they were not responsible for their own predicament. There were, unfortuneately, those who did not have the means to get out on their own. There are plenty of stories of those who were prepared who came to their rescue. For those people, I tip my hat. Very few people get through a tragedy like this on their own.

I hope that folks see this as a wake-up call to prepare for civil emergencies and pay attention to their local government's disaster preparation. I've been involved with my local community's disaster plan, but I believe I'm in the minority. Watching Chris Christie get upset with prople who refused to evacuate in New Jersey was understandable, but frustrating.

The situation is not over by a long shot. I've got a friend who's a Red Cross volunteer from my community who is being sent to New York to aid in the relief effort. She has been to Haiti after the earthquake and she was told to expect similar numbers of people that will require help in surviving the next few weeks. There are still peole without the necessasry resources to last much longer and communities will be tested repeatedly over the next while. With another storm, albeit smaller, about to impact the same area, it will be tough to get in to already ravaged areas.

I believe that where you're from and your experience in dealing with nasty weather will frame your view of this pst week and the weeks ahead. My thoughts and well-wishes go out to those who are trying. My contempt is reserved for those who throw eggs at Utility Workers and those who refuse to help the guy next door. My absolute hate is focused on those who exploit the situation for criminal means. Looters and scammers get a special place in hell.

For any Zoners experiencing the disaster first-hand, my thoughts and hopes for a speedy recovery.

People are stupid. It's that simple. They have become trained to rely on the government for all their needs especially in challenging times. Self sufficiency is dead. 9/11 and Katrina failed to wake them up. The next "disaster" will end up with the same results. FEMA and other Federal groups and the local governments are completely incompetent and incapable of dealing with large scale issues.

PS. those generators are still sitting in a park not being used.

 

[Faerluna]

People are stupid. It's that simple. They have become trained to rely on the government for all their needs especially in challenging times. Self sufficiency is dead.

Just my opinion, but that's a load of crap.

 

[JBond]

Just my opinion, but that's a load of crap.

That is what the interwebs are all about ms faerluna. A discussion and posting of ideas. How many days could you last without electricity or a way to gather food and water? My family would be fine for at least two weeks.

Katrina is a recent enough event that people should have taken notice and the proper precautions. Maybe you can explain the hatred spewed at the Red Cross and the local and federal governments as a result of this storm. Why all the hate if they were not expecting to be taken care of?

Self reliance is a dead idea in this era.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Stop the political talk.

You guys know better.

 

[vta]

That is what the interwebs are all about ms faerluna. A discussion and posting of ideas. How many days could you last without electricity or a way to gather food and water? My family would be fine for at least two weeks.

Katrina is a recent enough event that people should have taken notice and the proper precautions. Maybe you can explain the hatred spewed at the Red Cross and the local and federal governments as a result of this storm. Why all the hate if they were not expecting to be taken care of?

Self reliance is a dead idea in this era.

Sandy is a freak occurrence for the Tri-State area. No one expects that, I don't think anything remotely like it has happened since sometime in the early 60's.

And frankly, there's no preparing for what nature can and will do. Outside of just running out of it's path, no amount of prep will determine how the weather treats you. Entire houses have been moved down the street and into the water and the ocean has created an entirely new inlet in what was once a town called Mantoloking, NJ. No amount of prep will help against that.

 

[JBond]

Stop the political talk.

You guys know better.

Sorry BP...It was not intended as political...more about being able to take care of one's self because in the end, that is what it comes down to if something catastrophic happens.

Generators for those that can afford them, food and water are always a good idea to have on hand.

 

[JBond]

Sandy is a freak occurrence for the Tri-State area. No one expects that, I don't think anything remotely like it has happened since sometime in the early 60's.

And frankly, there's no preparing for what nature can and will do. Outside of just running out of it's path, no amount of prep will determine how the weather treats you. Entire houses have been moved down the street and into the water and the ocean has created an entirely new inlet in what was once a town called Mantoloking, NJ. No amount of prep will help against that.

It was a big storm, but it's not like there was no warning. For those who's homes washed away, I really feel for them, but there are still things they could have done to help themselves. Take your family and supply of food and water to high ground would be a good start.

I would consider this a good wake up call for those that do not get it. Be prepared. There is no guarantee the lights are going to come on tomorrow wherever you live.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

It was a big storm, but it's not like there was no warning. For those who's homes washed away, I really feel for them, but there are still things they could have done to help themselves. Take your family and supply of food and water to high ground would be a good start.

I would consider this a good wake up call for those that do not get it. Be prepared. There is no guarantee the lights are going to come on tomorrow wherever you live.

I think the a/n advice is solid. I have flashlights, extra batteries and I just remembered that I need to replace the distilled water that I used for something else last year. I have a wood-burning fireplace and a supply of firewood to get me by for a few days. It's not so crazy to prepare for a disaster, nor is it all that expensive. I know my neighbours and what issues they might face. (Some are elderly) I would hope that further posts on htis thread might focus on what else people could do now, particularly with more nasty weather apparently on the way for the Northeastern U.S..

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

In more rural areas, things like Generators and Insulated all weather blankets, food stuffs that do not require electricity, fuel reserves, appropriate clothing, Water, emergency lighting and emergency heaters, a decent Medical Kit, basic tools like shovels, axes, hammers, hand saws, hatchets, radios, a good knife and even a long rifle and a side arm are things that you prepare with. Prepared routes to evacuate, maps of the area, simple things like this. I mean, sure, not everyone will be lucky enough to have all of these things on hand but many will and those who have will take care of those who do not. This is part of being raised in a rural culture. It is unrealistic to think that people who are raised in cities would do this. Of course, some would but most probably would not. In cities, space is a premium and so, most do not keep these kinds of things around because they probably do not see them as a value. After all, what are the odds, so to speak?

I understand why they don't have these kinds of things available. It's just not very realistic so yeah, people who live in more rural areas probably are better prepared in many cases. It is what it is and what it is not is something worth fighting over.

 

[burmafrd]

rely on the government to always take care of you and you WILL be let down.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

In more rural areas, things like Generators and Insulated all weather blankets, food stuffs that do not require electricity, fuel reserves, appropriate clothing, Water, emergency lighting and emergency heaters, a decent Medical Kit, basic tools like shovels, axes, hammers, hand saws, hatchets, radios, a good knife and even a long rifle and a side arm are things that you prepare with. Prepared routes to evacuate, maps of the area, simple things like this. I mean, sure, not everyone will be lucky enough to have all of these things on hand but many will and those who have will take care of those who do not. This is part of being raised in a rural culture. It is unrealistic to think that people who are raised in cities would do this. Of course, some would but most probably would not. In cities, space is a premium and so, most do not keep these kinds of things around because they probably do not see them as a value. After all, what are the odds, so to speak?

I understand why they don't have these kinds of things available. It's just not very realistic so yeah, people who live in more rural areas probably are better prepared in many cases. It is what it is and what it is not is something worth fighting over.

Helpful and food for thought.

rely on the government to always take care of you and you WILL be let down.

Not helpful.
ABQ gets it. It might be useful for Urbanites to consider pooling their resources with their neighbours. When you live in close proximity, it might make sense to share in difficult times. While they may not have the stuff that rural folks have, they may have some of those things. I keep an emergency kit in my car and I supplement it with winter equipment, including a candle, a lighter, winter survival gear and bottled water.Most importantly, I keep a connection with my neighbours.

 

[TheCount]

It was a big storm, but it's not like there was no warning. For those who's homes washed away, I really feel for them, but there are still things they could have done to help themselves. Take your family and supply of food and water to high ground would be a good start.

I would consider this a good wake up call for those that do not get it. Be prepared. There is no guarantee the lights are going to come on tomorrow wherever you live.

How does taking food and water to "high ground" stop your home from washing away, exactly?

 

[JBond]

How does taking food and water to "high ground" stop your home from washing away, exactly?

Magic....

I think you missed the point. Help is not coming and you need food and water to survive. I would rather be prepared than have to dumpster dive to feed my kids.

 

[TheCount]

Magic....

I think you missed the point. Help is not coming and you need food and water to survive. I would rather be prepared than have to dumpster dive to feed my kids.

I'm not sure where you got the inclination that is exactly what's going on around these parts, but I can assure you, we aren't just laying in the middle of the street waiting for anyone to save us.

The idea that people in this region are somehow helpless and unwilling to do what it takes to survive is preposterous.