This is the anthem we should respect?

TheCount

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Honestly, if we threw out everything in this country that had some tie to racism, there wouldn't be much left.

There has to be some room to reclaim those things, so I don't believe you throw the anthem out because it was written in a different time.
 
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Honestly, if we threw out everything in this country that had some tie to racism, there wouldn't be much left.

There has to be some room to reclaim those things, so I don't believe you throw the anthem out because it was written in a different time.
to expand.....pretty much every country and civilization has some tie to slavery. It is not an "America" thing.
 
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So that means what as far as people not respecting the anthem? Say what you have to say.
America has evolved to become better today then what it was, so has our anthem. If you're going to project America in 1776 over our country today, yea, you're probably going to be pissed. If you instead projected conditions in other parts of the world, you might allow yourself to see how great this country really is and why it's the best country in the world.
 

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America has evolved to become better today then what it was, so has our anthem. If you're going to project America in 1776 over our country today, yea, you're probably going to be pissed. If you instead projected conditions in other parts of the world, you might allow yourself to see how great this country really is and why it's the best country in the world.
I don't care if it was 1276, he still wrote it and it's still trash. There's nothing special about America except for some of the people in it. America isn't the only country where one can live a good life lol. That's just the pompous American view of most who've never even been to other countries.
 
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I don't care if it was 1276, he still wrote it and it's still trash. There's nothing special about America except for some of the people in it. America isn't the only country where one can live a good life lol. That's just the pompous American view of most who've never even been to other countries.
I've traveled a bunch, seen many parts of the world. Maybe you'll locate that country to live where you 'll find that inner peace.
 

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I've traveled a bunch, seen many parts of the world. Maybe you'll locate that country to live where you 'll find that inner peace.
Or maybe I'll help change America. Crazy thought right? I wonder if you were telling the make America great again people to leave. (Let's be real, of course you didn't).
 

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http://blog.dictionary.com/star-spangled-banner/

The Forgotten Verses of “The Star-Spangled Banner” | Dictionary.com Blog

O say can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hail’d at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight
O’er the ramparts we watch’d were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there,
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?


On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream,
’Tis the star-spangled banner—O long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,

And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto – “In God is our trust,”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


B b but they took the third verse out. :laugh:
I'm very much a supporter of the protests and the BLM movement, but I think you're reaching here. Historians disagree as to whether this reference to "the hireling and slave" is a literal reference to African American slaves.

And even if it is, I don't think that renders the Star Spangled Banner, and specifically the portion that we sing as the national anthem, racist or a celebration of slavery. The poem is a historical piece describing a battle. (As a side note, the Star Spangled Banner is a terrible national anthem.) If 99% of people don't even know the third verse exists, much less what it says, who is harmed in the singing of the first verse?
 

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Pointing out that people having a problem with these protests say that it's disrespecting the men who died for this country. Yet before the civil rights movement black men went over seas to fight/die for America, just to come back and be treated as less than human beings/being denied equal rights in their own country. But that part of our history likes to be forgotten about by certain people.
 
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