This is where I stand with team's first 4 rounds right now

Dane has the Okla T as a 2nd rd prospect, so there could be a chance one falls through the cracks.
He’s not a better prospect than Smith the player now. Just because Smith has been good enough to just flip back and forth doesn’t mean it’s best for the development of the player. Keep your LT where he is and if you want a LG draft one. Maybe you draft Torrance, maybe Avila a round later.
 
Looking at the draft talent:
  • CB or OG seem the best options Rd 1
  • A TE in Rd 2 likely gets us a top 50 player in the draft
  • RB in Rd 3 or 4 looks attractive
I think any mock draft that hit these markers is gonna be pretty accurate.
 
Looking at the draft talent:
  • CB or OG seem the best options Rd 1
  • A TE in Rd 2 likely gets us a top 50 player in the draft
  • RB in Rd 3 or 4 looks attractive
I think any mock draft that hit these markers is gonna be pretty accurate.
Are you banking on us getting a WR in FA or are happy with our WR corp heading into next year?
 
Are you banking on us getting a WR in FA or are happy with our WR corp heading into next year?
I don’t see a scenario where WR is BPA at a position of need in the first two rounds and I’d be reluctant go into the season only adding a 3rd RD or lower WR. I think we at least need someone like TY Hilton at the low end or Odell at the high end in addition to a mid-late draft pick.
 
I don’t see a scenario where WR is BPA at a position of need in the first two rounds and I’d be reluctant go into the season only adding a 3rd RD or lower WR. I think we at least need someone like TY Hilton at the low end or Odell at the high end in addition to a mid-late draft pick.
Team has to be more creative. If not Odell, then look to the trade market. Maybe Cooks. This mindset that you can do it all in the draft is insane. I get it that you don’t want to go all in with the Type A FA. But you have to do better.
 
I don’t see a scenario where WR is BPA at a position of need in the first two rounds and I’d be reluctant go into the season only adding a 3rd RD or lower WR. I think we at least need someone like TY Hilton at the low end or Odell at the high end in addition to a mid-late draft pick.
If he’s healthy I think OBJ is the floor of what we need to do to fix the position.

If they go cheap again, they’re going to force a. we’d pick early which would be pretty Cowboys of us.
 
Team has to be more creative. If not Odell, then look to the trade market. Maybe Cooks. This mindset that you can do it all in the draft is insane. I get it that you don’t want to go all in with the Type A FA. But you have to do better.
if we don’t next 2 years are likely more if the same
 
Am I the only one who doesn't see they need for a TE to be taken high in this draft? I get that it's a good class and that Shultz is most likely gone, but I see no need to use a high pick on the position when we have 3 good and still very young guys in house already.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't see they need for a TE to be taken high in this draft? I get that it's a good class and that Shultz is most likely gone, but I see no need to use a high pick on the position when we have 3 good and still very young guys in house already.
Give me Payne Durham in the 5th.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't see they need for a TE to be taken high in this draft? I get that it's a good class and that Shultz is most likely gone, but I see no need to use a high pick on the position when we have 3 good and still very young guys in house already.
The question I have, would you just want a solid option or would you rather have an elite option that forces defenses to count for them?
 
The question I have, would you just want a solid option or would you rather have an elite option that forces defenses to count for them?
To answer your question directly, yes of course you want an elite option at every position. But that's highly unrealistic. There just isn't enough draft capital or cap space to do that. You can make your team better and make defenses account for another player by adding a dynamic WR to this weak group while staying strong (or solid as you say) at TE. And Shultz isn't out the door yet. As much as I don't see him returning, it could happen.

So do you want to ignore a weak spot on your team to get better (I wont say elite because that's a crap shoot) at a position you're already strong at? I for one would rather get stronger at my weakest areas, rather than better at my strong ones.


Now the question I have for you is, even if/when Shultz leaves, you don't think Ferguson is going to be a very good TE?

I do, I think he's a really good player that was unlucky being behind Dak's security blanket. I kind of see Witten 2.0 He isn't fast or flashy, but he can block well, he runs good routes and he catches very well.
I think Hendershot is good as well. He brings a feistiness that I love about him. Sean McQ isn't terrible either. And all 3 are young players. Which makes my point that this cupboard is pretty stacked and fresh already, while there are other cupboards that are pretty bare or out of date.
 
To answer your question directly, yes of course you want an elite option at every position. But that's highly unrealistic. There just isn't enough draft capital or cap space to do that. You can make your team better and make defenses account for another player by adding a dynamic WR to this weak group while staying strong (or solid as you say) at TE. And Shultz isn't out the door yet. As much as I don't see him returning, it could happen.

So do you want to ignore a weak spot on your team to get better (I wont say elite because that's a crap shoot) at a position you're already strong at? I for one would rather get stronger at my weakest areas, rather than better at my strong ones.


Now the question I have for you is, even if/when Shultz leaves, you don't think Ferguson is going to be a very good TE?

I do, I think he's a really good player that was unlucky being behind Dak's security blanket. I kind of see Witten 2.0 He isn't fast or flashy, but he can block well, he runs good routes and he catches very well.
I think Hendershot is good as well. He brings a feistiness that I love about him. Sean McQ isn't terrible either. And all 3 are young players. Which makes my point that this cupboard is pretty stacked and fresh already, while there are other cupboards that are pretty bare or out of date.
Today's game it's all about the pass and finding as many mismatches as possible. These new aged TE's are basically oversized receivers that forces teams to put corners on them, which opens up the rest of the offense. Yes, you could add a high level receiver to accomplish the same goals. Look at the SB teams, they both had elite TE's. I view TE like having a great Free Safety, not many elite ones, but when you got one, big advantage.

As for Ferguson, think his ceiling is a more balanced Shultz as he can actually block inline. As for a receiver, still needs some development, but he looks better at this stage then did Shultz. Would like to add a veteran to the group if Shultz does depart. However, think one of these top 5 TE's could drasticially upgrade the position rather then just replace Shultz prior production. We saw TO/Witten tandem work real well.
 
Today's game it's all about the pass and finding as many mismatches as possible. These new aged TE's are basically oversized receivers that forces teams to put corners on them, which opens up the rest of the offense. Yes, you could add a high level receiver to accomplish the same goals. Look at the SB teams, they both had elite TE's. I view TE like having a great Free Safety, not many elite ones, but when you got one, big advantage.

As for Ferguson, think his ceiling is a more balanced Shultz as he can actually block inline. As for a receiver, still needs some development, but he looks better at this stage then did Shultz. Would like to add a veteran to the group if Shultz does depart. However, think one of these top 5 TE's could drasticially upgrade the position rather then just replace Shultz prior production. We saw TO/Witten tandem work real well.
I agree with the entire first paragraph. But that's kind of my point. There are very very few elite TE's in todays game. Kelce, Kittle and Andrews that's it. There are some other guys that many consider élite, like Waller, Pitts etc., but I don't. IMO they haven't really done anything yet to say that they are elite. To me they fall into the same good group as about half the TE's in the league, including Shultz and I think Ferg will be also.
So IMHO, to suggest that one of these new TE's will instantly put us in that very small group of elite is a stretch. Kind of like striking oil. It's there, but most don't hit it.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't see they need for a TE to be taken high in this draft? I get that it's a good class and that Shultz is most likely gone, but I see no need to use a high pick on the position when we have 3 good and still very young guys in house already.
I’d be open to an upgrade but due to positional value I kick it down the list.

I don’t see a 1st round talent in this class so hard pass at 26.
 
I agree with the entire first paragraph. But that's kind of my point. There are very very few elite TE's in todays game. Kelce, Kittle and Andrews that's it. There are some other guys that many consider élite, like Waller, Pitts etc., but I don't. IMO they haven't really done anything yet to say that they are elite. To me they fall into the same good group as about half the TE's in the league, including Shultz and I think Ferg will be also.
So IMHO, to suggest that one of these new TE's will instantly put us in that very small group of elite is a stretch. Kind of like striking oil. It's there, but most don't hit it.
Really good TE class. But that‘s essentially what it comes down to. What are our expectations ? Are we getting someone significantly better than Ferguson ?
 
I agree with the entire first paragraph. But that's kind of my point. There are very very few elite TE's in todays game. Kelce, Kittle and Andrews that's it. There are some other guys that many consider élite, like Waller, Pitts etc., but I don't. IMO they haven't really done anything yet to say that they are elite. To me they fall into the same good group as about half the TE's in the league, including Shultz and I think Ferg will be also.
So IMHO, to suggest that one of these new TE's will instantly put us in that very small group of elite is a stretch. Kind of like striking oil. It's there, but most don't hit it.
I agree, most don't usually hit and the best TE's in this league weren't picked in the 1st rd. Mayer is the only one I would consider at 26, but I would be hard pressed to pass one up if they were on the board at 58, the value would be too much to ignore.
 
If he’s healthy I think OBJ is the floor of what we need to do to fix the position.

If they go cheap again, they’re going to force a. we’d pick early which would be pretty Cowboys of us.
What’s OBJ gonna be asking? 4 year, 12m per season deal, maybe bumping to 18m per season with incentives. That’s an expensive floor. I think the floor is more likely in the 4-6m per season range.
 

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