This Narrative that the NFC is down/wide open

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That the NFC is down/wide open? Why because Brady and Rogers teams are struggling is that why?
I call BS, and say that the NFC is as it always is! The AFC is wide open now as it has been since Brady left, it's wide open.

Both the NFC and the AFC currently has 7 teams over 500.
The NFC has 29 SB winners to the AFC 27.
 

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That the NFC is down/wide open? Why because Brady and Rogers teams are struggling is that why?
I call BS, and say that the NFC is as it always is! The AFC is wide open now as it has been since Brady left, it's wide open.

Both the NFC and the AFC currently has 7 teams over 500.
The NFC has 29 SB winners to the AFC 27.
I don’t see it either. Even if you look at the power rankings (a ranking system based on opinion) they tend to have a good mix of nfc and afc teams.
 

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Is this parity? A bunch of middle of the road teams who win against the weaklings of their division?

I saw a graphic in a video that had Marcus Spears discussing the Dallas pass protection. Statistically the line win 46% of their snaps. That is 29th in the league. Spear went on to speak about Tyron Smith coming back and how moving Tyler Smith inside to guard improves 40% of the Dallas line, and that is how they will improve and be formidable when meeting the Eagles.

I don't know if that is true. But He went on speaking about the first Eagles game and how Rush threw three picks, but Dallas was making headway in the game. Presumably Dak is much better than Rush and that may close the gap in scoring.
 

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The NFC is weird. TB, LAR, and GB all have taken huge steps back. The entire NFCE however, has taken strides forward. SF is solid— but who knows what will happen with JG’s injury?

KC and Buff still look to be the heavyweights. Every team has some flaws. Injuries and who is peaking/fading when Jan rolls around will (as always) be influential
 

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If you'll look at the battle of the top teams:


Minnesota beats Buffalo
Cowboys beats Bengals
49ers beats Miami
Minnesota beats Miami (although without Tua)

However.......... KC beat 49ers


But so far.... 4-1 NFC. It's a small sample size, but still..... this "NFC is a poor man's AFC" thing is a stupid social media construct. I'll tell you what these simpletons are thinking. They're going: "oooh ohhh AFC has Wilson, Herbert, Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen", and reducing all the teams down to the Quarterback position, where everyone knows that it takes a team and not a player to win a Super Bowl. Not to mention Herbert and Wilson have disappointed, but at the beginning of the year they were salivating, and pimping up that now proven weak sauce division.

And on the NFC side, everyone was like: "everyone except Brady and Rodgers suck." Which is a very simplistic way of looking at things, but they still continue that attempt to flex their intellect along that path. Then they try to suggest Vikings are no good, despite the fact that they just swept the AFC East (probably the toughest division in football along with the NFC Beast), but people on this board and on the media continue to disrespect the Vikings. Vikings don't seem like a joke to me. I'm not confident they can reach the NFC Championship game, but I'd give them just as good a shot as anyone, because you never really know.

Eagles have played no top teams yet from the AFC. The only team to not to do so, I should also point out.

Just lol...
 
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We've reached a point where FA, salary caps, and crap officiating have done exactly what they were intended.
brought us mediocre football.
Happily we have assembled a group of players and a couple coordinators who are identifying player strengths and putting them in positions to shine.

There are only 2 folks who can keep us from a super bowl appearance .
1. MM failure to have the team focused and disciplined for a big game.
2. Our beloved QB having a meltdown in a big game.
But yes, if we're on our game nobody in the watered down NFC stops us.
 

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Before the season, I think many thought the AFC would be better because of QB play. The AFC had better quarterbacks and had more rising quarterbacks. The NFC was an aging Brady, an aging Rodgers, and otter QBs that had very little playoff success outside of Staffords run last year.
 

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Is this parity? A bunch of middle of the road teams who win against the weaklings of their division?

I saw a graphic in a video that had Marcus Spears discussing the Dallas pass protection. Statistically the line win 46% of their snaps. That is 29th in the league. Spear went on to speak about Tyron Smith coming back and how moving Tyler Smith inside to guard improves 40% of the Dallas line, and that is how they will improve and be formidable when meeting the Eagles.

I don't know if that is true. But He went on speaking about the first Eagles game and how Rush threw three picks, but Dallas was making headway in the game. Presumably Dak is much better than Rush and that may close the gap in scoring.
I don't get the stat that says our line is only winning 46% of their snaps in pass pro when we've given up the fewest sacks in the league. It just doesn't compute that we'd be last in pass block win rate and 1st in sacks given up. Football Outsiders has our line ranked 3rd in pass blocking while ESPN has us last? That's a pretty wide gap.
 

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I don't get the stat that says our line is only winning 46% of their snaps in pass pro when we've given up the fewest sacks in the league. It just doesn't compute that we'd be last in pass block win rate and 1st in sacks given up. Football Outsiders has our line ranked 3rd in pass blocking while ESPN has us last? That's a pretty wide gap.


Hurries are also factored into this. But it has to do with the individual battles.
 

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That the NFC is down/wide open? Why because Brady and Rogers teams are struggling is that why?
I call BS, and say that the NFC is as it always is! The AFC is wide open now as it has been since Brady left, it's wide open.

Both the NFC and the AFC currently has 7 teams over 500.
The NFC has 29 SB winners to the AFC 27.
I think the conferences are similar and a very top heavy as they fall off dramatically after the top 3-4:
KC, Buf, Cincy
Phi, Sfo, Dal, Min
 

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I think the NFC is underrated. The media is trying to change the narrative because of the Cowboys success. As bad as Tampa has looked they got hit with the injury bug. If they get their injured offensive linemen and defensive backfield back they will be a top 10 team in the league. Who in the world wants to play Brady in the playoffs? Minnesota is 10-2 they have a better chance at getting the 1 seed then the Cowboys do. Philadelphia is the one team in the NFL that appears to have no weaknesses. San Francisco might have a generational defense. Let’s be real who wants to play Dallas, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Tampa in the playoffs. I get Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo but the rest of the AFC scares no one.
 

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Quarterback play in the afc is just so much better. I look at a team like tenneseee that as of right now would have to go through Cincinnati, KC, Buffalo to get to the superbowl. That’s a rough road. Is anyone looking at NY, Seattle, Washington as realistic Super Bowl teams? I’m tempted to lump TB in that category but won’t just out of the Brady factor. Only team I’d call a fraud in the afc is NY. Tennessee I think is a long shot but still a good team.
 

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I don’t see it either. Even if you look at the power rankings (a ranking system based on opinion) they tend to have a good mix of nfc and afc teams.

Power ranking don't mean crap. In the NFC you have three teams, Cowboys, Eagles, 49ers. One of those 3 teams are going to the Super Bowl. That's it.
 

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That the NFC is down/wide open? Why because Brady and Rogers teams are struggling is that why?
I call BS, and say that the NFC is as it always is! The AFC is wide open now as it has been since Brady left, it's wide open.

Both the NFC and the AFC currently has 7 teams over 500.
The NFC has 29 SB winners to the AFC 27.
Yes, that is why. Tampa and LA struggling who are last 2 SB champions and Packers championship perennial contenders .

Take those teams out of the mix basically , although Tampa is still barely in it, we do have a reduced field in the NFC.

Better yet, we have an unproven field in Dallas, Minn and Phil who are top teams this year in NFC.

It doesn’t mean they aren’t good teams . They just are unknown and unproven quantities in the playoffs . And is why the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals are considered more of favorites in AFC as they have all had recent success in playoffs .
 

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I don’t think you understand what people are insinuating when they say the nfc is bad bc it isn’t what you are implying. And they’re right, the nfc is bad. You are wrong.


Nah, I am not wrong, stop trying find something that is not there. Stop believing the idiots on TV, they’re reading the scripts given to them.
 

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Is this parity? A bunch of middle of the road teams who win against the weaklings of their division?

I saw a graphic in a video that had Marcus Spears discussing the Dallas pass protection. Statistically the line win 46% of their snaps. That is 29th in the league. Spear went on to speak about Tyron Smith coming back and how moving Tyler Smith inside to guard improves 40% of the Dallas line, and that is how they will improve and be formidable when meeting the Eagles.

I don't know if that is true. But He went on speaking about the first Eagles game and how Rush threw three picks, but Dallas was making headway in the game. Presumably Dak is much better than Rush and that may close the gap in scoring.




Stats can be used, and manipulated in conversations or arguments for and against.
 

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Is the NFC wide open? Probably not. The fact that there is only one playoff bye week will be tough to overcome for the weaker seeds.
 
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