This organization is the walking definition of insanity

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Jerry is just playing to his insane fanbase, who every time the team has a good run against cupcakes, thinks SUPER BOWL, even though there are myriad signs that the team won't even compete against better teams. If Jerry is insane, maybe it's because the fanbase is insane too.
 

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I hate to say it but you are still here Bob.......so if what you saying is true, maybe we ALL are just as insane as Jerry and/or the franchise. :lmao2:
Nah, we are held hostage. I became a fan years before Jerry. He was forced on me as some sort of cosmic test. Just how much abuse can I take before I get fed up enough to walk away? Not quite the test Job received, but a test nonetheless.
 

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While it's fun to argue/debate about the coaches or quarterback any true fan knows we will not win anything as long as JJ owns the company. Then insert Stephen...

IMO, if not for Jimmy playing a huge part in getting the "America's Team" thing rolling Jerry would argurably go done as one of the worst owners in football ever. As most people jokingly say the man sold his soul for those 90s championships.

Just look at how many ex players have talked about the Cowboys culture being entitled and soft.
 

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Webster’s simple definition of insanity: “a severely disordered state of the mind.”

Of course we’ve all grown up hearing that the definition of insanity is “doing the same things and expecting different results.” Tonight I believe the second definition is most appropriate describing the owner and GM of the Cowboys.

Reading that ridiculous statement crafted by Jerry’s PR department tonight about retaining Mike McCarthy as head coach because this team is “close”. Hahaha! How many times have we heard this? Was there ever even 30 seconds watching that slaughter Sunday at AT&T by the 7th seeded 9-8 visitors that any honest Cowboys fan thought that this team is “close” to anything other than early elimination?

Let me make this clear: I have nothing against Mike McCarthy. Honestly he’s been way better than the last coach Jerry was “comfortable” with. My disgust is not with Big Mac or Dak (although I’m ready for a change at QB too) Folks, Dak was not forced at gunpoint to sign his big contract. And any fan who is honest should admit Dak had a good season.

But being 2-5 in the playoffs as your signal caller means every year it gets harder for him to climb that mountain. He will be back here next year and probably many more years because our owner/GM either does not know HOW to rebuild the right way or lacks the stones to admit he was wrong about what kind of team he has. Or both.

So if you’re mad about McCarthy coming back I hope you weren’t actually believing that any coach- Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, an 80 year old Jimmy Johnson, or the ghost of Tom Landry is capable of turning this Titanic around with Captain Jones at the wheel. It…does…not…matter….who is coaching. No one can fix this as long as Jerry is dominating this culture.

If you don’t believe that you are refusing to look at three decades of evidence.

I am a loyal Cowboys fan. Been a fan 59 years. But my loyalty is to that blue star on the silver helmet. Not to the 81 year old fool who apparently has no one around him who tells him that HE is THE problem or he isn’t listening. Whichever it is, I’m as clear eyed as can be. I love the Cowboys and always will. I want them to win. But expecting Jerry Jones to be the architect of a team that can raise a Lombardi is the definition of insanity to me.
Nothing will change, his dumb son will be even worse.
 

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Said this 10 years ago. As long as JJ and the Jones Family is running the show nothing will change.

I doesnt matter who coaches or who plays QB. They have established a weak country club atmosphere and that wont change anytime as after Jerry his stubborn Son takes over
 

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This is disingenuous on several levels.

There are going to be all kinds of changes to coaches and players and scheme. The issue here is that the Cowboys are not making the changes that you want to see.

Einstein said that and he only said that instead of stupid because he was a nice man. Some insane people go on repeat I am sure but most are noted for their erratic behavior.
 

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Here’s what we are expected to believe tonight:
  • The 48-32 slaughter was a mirage. We really aren’t the team we appeared to be Sunday.
  • We don’t need to change how we do things despite not winning a divisional playoff game in 28 years.
  • Our GM thinks he should be trusted despite the last 28 seasons.
  • Next year will be different even though the main architect of the last 28 years of mediocrity will still be in charge.
  • We are “close”.
I‘m not the smartest guy in the world but I know I’m not crazy. I would have to be crazy to buy the same kool aid 29 years in a row.
It’s encouraging to see that this could finally be the straw that breaks some fans back. And this isn’t directed at you my friend but for all of those who might be feeling the same.

But sadly I must say we have been here before. And come around July or a fast start in regular season the attitudes can change.

I’d pretty well given up that after almost 3 decades was enough for all fans to see it. That perhaps the last couple generations would need to die off and we might need 50 years of this lowering the bar for fans to finally get or see it.

By then the old fool will be gone. As well as myself and many of our old time fans. But it won’t be until then that a renewed hope will arise again barring some kind of miracle before.

I think some had hoped naming Jimmy into the ROH might lift the fog but that might have been just enough for one night.

It’s going to have to hit rock bottom for any real hope of change. And not just on the field but at the turnstiles for the type of change most are hoping for . And that doesn’t appear to be our destiny at this time cause he’s intent on holding together just enough to remain relative and interesting which he’s able to hype and promote to the more casual fan.

Keep your heads high Cowboy fans. Our history is still much to be proud of. We can’t help who our owner is now. While we can help him feel the pain. And like Bob said we can still root on the guys who wear a star on their helmet while calling out the who owns it.

And remember, this franchise is still the city of Dallas. Jethro is just the key holder until it’s pried out of his hands one way or another.
 

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We'll be in this same spot next year, same time talking about this same thing. If I had time, I'd rummage through the CZ history and pull up every post miserable season posts.
I know! I thought after this embarrassing loss, a 7th seed beating a #2 seed, that Jerry would clean house but no, he is running it back again. What a football idiot!
 

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Jerry is about to destroy this fan base. It gets weaker every year. My son tells me all the time no one in his DFW high school even likes the Cowboys. The next generation won’t love or even passionably hate them. They are nothing anymore.
 

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Hey, at least Jerry saved a chunk of change by not having to pay McCarthy and his replacement.
 

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Webster’s simple definition of insanity: “a severely disordered state of the mind.”

Of course we’ve all grown up hearing that the definition of insanity is “doing the same things and expecting different results.” Tonight I believe the second definition is most appropriate describing the owner and GM of the Cowboys.

Reading that ridiculous statement crafted by Jerry’s PR department tonight about retaining Mike McCarthy as head coach because this team is “close”. Hahaha! How many times have we heard this? Was there ever even 30 seconds watching that slaughter Sunday at AT&T by the 7th seeded 9-8 visitors that any honest Cowboys fan thought that this team is “close” to anything other than early elimination?

Let me make this clear: I have nothing against Mike McCarthy. Honestly he’s been way better than the last coach Jerry was “comfortable” with. My disgust is not with Big Mac or Dak (although I’m ready for a change at QB too) Folks, Dak was not forced at gunpoint to sign his big contract. And any fan who is honest should admit Dak had a good season.

But being 2-5 in the playoffs as your signal caller means every year it gets harder for him to climb that mountain. He will be back here next year and probably many more years because our owner/GM either does not know HOW to rebuild the right way or lacks the stones to admit he was wrong about what kind of team he has. Or both.

So if you’re mad about McCarthy coming back I hope you weren’t actually believing that any coach- Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, an 80 year old Jimmy Johnson, or the ghost of Tom Landry is capable of turning this Titanic around with Captain Jones at the wheel. It…does…not…matter….who is coaching. No one can fix this as long as Jerry is dominating this culture.

If you don’t believe that you are refusing to look at three decades of evidence.

I am a loyal Cowboys fan. Been a fan 59 years. But my loyalty is to that blue star on the silver helmet. Not to the 81 year old fool who apparently has no one around him who tells him that HE is THE problem or he isn’t listening. Whichever it is, I’m as clear eyed as can be. I love the Cowboys and always will. I want them to win. But expecting Jerry Jones to be the architect of a team that can raise a Lombardi is the definition of insanity to me.
Been saying this for years along with a few others. Just look at Jerry’s statement, he’s going to use a holistic approach and he then says MM is staying. I guess JJ doesn’t even know what holistic approach means. Jerry is his own worst enemy, he knows it but can’t help it. The only way MM should stay is to Cut Dak post June, and tell the QB whisper it’s SB or bust with Trey Lance. Not going to happen because Jerry is in his comfort zone with regular season wins against the weak teams, it’s what he thrives on
 

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Webster’s simple definition of insanity: “a severely disordered state of the mind.”

Of course we’ve all grown up hearing that the definition of insanity is “doing the same things and expecting different results.” Tonight I believe the second definition is most appropriate describing the owner and GM of the Cowboys.

Reading that ridiculous statement crafted by Jerry’s PR department tonight about retaining Mike McCarthy as head coach because this team is “close”. Hahaha! How many times have we heard this? Was there ever even 30 seconds watching that slaughter Sunday at AT&T by the 7th seeded 9-8 visitors that any honest Cowboys fan thought that this team is “close” to anything other than early elimination?

Let me make this clear: I have nothing against Mike McCarthy. Honestly he’s been way better than the last coach Jerry was “comfortable” with. My disgust is not with Big Mac or Dak (although I’m ready for a change at QB too) Folks, Dak was not forced at gunpoint to sign his big contract. And any fan who is honest should admit Dak had a good season.

But being 2-5 in the playoffs as your signal caller means every year it gets harder for him to climb that mountain. He will be back here next year and probably many more years because our owner/GM either does not know HOW to rebuild the right way or lacks the stones to admit he was wrong about what kind of team he has. Or both.

So if you’re mad about McCarthy coming back I hope you weren’t actually believing that any coach- Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, an 80 year old Jimmy Johnson, or the ghost of Tom Landry is capable of turning this Titanic around with Captain Jones at the wheel. It…does…not…matter….who is coaching. No one can fix this as long as Jerry is dominating this culture.

If you don’t believe that you are refusing to look at three decades of evidence.

I am a loyal Cowboys fan. Been a fan 59 years. But my loyalty is to that blue star on the silver helmet. Not to the 81 year old fool who apparently has no one around him who tells him that HE is THE problem or he isn’t listening. Whichever it is, I’m as clear eyed as can be. I love the Cowboys and always will. I want them to win. But expecting Jerry Jones to be the architect of a team that can raise a Lombardi is the definition of insanity to me.
Just another day at the Star....

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Webster’s simple definition of insanity: “a severely disordered state of the mind.”

Of course we’ve all grown up hearing that the definition of insanity is “doing the same things and expecting different results.” Tonight I believe the second definition is most appropriate describing the owner and GM of the Cowboys.

Reading that ridiculous statement crafted by Jerry’s PR department tonight about retaining Mike McCarthy as head coach because this team is “close”. Hahaha! How many times have we heard this? Was there ever even 30 seconds watching that slaughter Sunday at AT&T by the 7th seeded 9-8 visitors that any honest Cowboys fan thought that this team is “close” to anything other than early elimination?

Let me make this clear: I have nothing against Mike McCarthy. Honestly he’s been way better than the last coach Jerry was “comfortable” with. My disgust is not with Big Mac or Dak (although I’m ready for a change at QB too) Folks, Dak was not forced at gunpoint to sign his big contract. And any fan who is honest should admit Dak had a good season.

But being 2-5 in the playoffs as your signal caller means every year it gets harder for him to climb that mountain. He will be back here next year and probably many more years because our owner/GM either does not know HOW to rebuild the right way or lacks the stones to admit he was wrong about what kind of team he has. Or both.

So if you’re mad about McCarthy coming back I hope you weren’t actually believing that any coach- Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, an 80 year old Jimmy Johnson, or the ghost of Tom Landry is capable of turning this Titanic around with Captain Jones at the wheel. It…does…not…matter….who is coaching. No one can fix this as long as Jerry is dominating this culture.

If you don’t believe that you are refusing to look at three decades of evidence.

I am a loyal Cowboys fan. Been a fan 59 years. But my loyalty is to that blue star on the silver helmet. Not to the 81 year old fool who apparently has no one around him who tells him that HE is THE problem or he isn’t listening. Whichever it is, I’m as clear eyed as can be. I love the Cowboys and always will. I want them to win. But expecting Jerry Jones to be the architect of a team that can raise a Lombardi is the definition of insanity to me.
Agree 100%....now tell us why we still support a team despite all this?

Now that's not exactly sane either
 

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Webster’s simple definition of insanity: “a severely disordered state of the mind.”

Of course we’ve all grown up hearing that the definition of insanity is “doing the same things and expecting different results.” Tonight I believe the second definition is most appropriate describing the owner and GM of the Cowboys.

Reading that ridiculous statement crafted by Jerry’s PR department tonight about retaining Mike McCarthy as head coach because this team is “close”. Hahaha! How many times have we heard this? Was there ever even 30 seconds watching that slaughter Sunday at AT&T by the 7th seeded 9-8 visitors that any honest Cowboys fan thought that this team is “close” to anything other than early elimination?

Let me make this clear: I have nothing against Mike McCarthy. Honestly he’s been way better than the last coach Jerry was “comfortable” with. My disgust is not with Big Mac or Dak (although I’m ready for a change at QB too) Folks, Dak was not forced at gunpoint to sign his big contract. And any fan who is honest should admit Dak had a good season.

But being 2-5 in the playoffs as your signal caller means every year it gets harder for him to climb that mountain. He will be back here next year and probably many more years because our owner/GM either does not know HOW to rebuild the right way or lacks the stones to admit he was wrong about what kind of team he has. Or both.

So if you’re mad about McCarthy coming back I hope you weren’t actually believing that any coach- Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, an 80 year old Jimmy Johnson, or the ghost of Tom Landry is capable of turning this Titanic around with Captain Jones at the wheel. It…does…not…matter….who is coaching. No one can fix this as long as Jerry is dominating this culture.

If you don’t believe that you are refusing to look at three decades of evidence.

I am a loyal Cowboys fan. Been a fan 59 years. But my loyalty is to that blue star on the silver helmet. Not to the 81 year old fool who apparently has no one around him who tells him that HE is THE problem or he isn’t listening. Whichever it is, I’m as clear eyed as can be. I love the Cowboys and always will. I want them to win. But expecting Jerry Jones to be the architect of a team that can raise a Lombardi is the definition of insanity to me.
Yep. Jerry is now putting himself above the franchise. I bet ,off camera, he admits doubts that the 'same 'ole' will get another ring, however, he probably doesnt have time for the alternative.
 

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Agree 100%....now tell us why we still support a team despite all this?

Now that's not exactly sane either
Stockholm Syndrome: Stockholm syndrome describes the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or abuser and their goals.

I believe it has happened to many Cowboys fans who keep buying jerseys and kool aid.
 

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Here’s what we are expected to believe tonight:
  • The 48-32 slaughter was a mirage. We really aren’t the team we appeared to be Sunday.
  • We don’t need to change how we do things despite not winning a divisional playoff game in 28 years.
  • Our GM thinks he should be trusted despite the last 28 seasons.
  • Next year will be different even though the main architect of the last 28 years of mediocrity will still be in charge.
  • We are “close”.
I‘m not the smartest guy in the world but I know I’m not crazy. I would have to be crazy to buy the same kool aid 29 years in a row.
Great original post as well as this one. It's amazing to me that many fans continue to lap up whatever Jerry is selling, like it makes you a "hater" to be frustrated with this front office. I think it is mainly younger fans who were still in elementary school (or not even born) when we last won a championship. Someone in another post said it best that for us older fans that loved the Cowboys in the Landry era, the younger fans have no idea what's its like to watch Jerry destroy our team slowly over 30 years, producing the same pitiful playoff results while embracing the Jones model.

Perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum is "Jerry really wants to win", lol. Jerry's answer to the worst playoff loss in Pokes history (most points allowed) is "business as usual" which was a foregone conclusion and as predictable as Jerry hiring assistant coaches before naming the new hc.

I just wonder how much abuse the fan base will take before they stop buying tickets, jersey's, and SWAG. The answer seems to be three decades of the same post season results is not much of a deterrent for fans to fill the stadium and buy $70 pizzas and $20 beers. "A fool and his money will soon part ways" ...
 

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Stockholm Syndrome: Stockholm syndrome describes the psychological condition of a victim who identifies with and empathizes with their captor or abuser and their goals.

I believe it has happened to many Cowboys fans who keep buying jerseys and kool aid.
I also wonder if there's a good amount of fans that just enjoy a winning regular season and don't require any more than that?

I know it sounds ridiculous because everybody in this microcosm, known as the CZ, needs to see a Championship

I've learned through experience to never underestimate other people standards of success
 

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I've never in my 53 yrs been more embarrassed to be a Cowboys fan.

I just KNEW this time, Jerry would make a real change. That he was just as embarrassed as I, & millions of other Cowboys fans were. This is just..... wow. In 1989 when we went 1-15, I was hopeful for our future. You could feel it. It was coming.

This to me, is the lowest of lows for the Dallas Cowboys. I was convinced the stars were lining up for Jerry to get serious about winning one before he bounces the earth. Jimmy is in the Ring of Honor, appears to have repaired the relationship with Jones. His half time speech was the one the players needed to hear. He didn't hold back cause he's part of the family again. Belichek is available. He's good friends with Jimmy. He has something to prove for his own legacy. Yup, I was convinced there was gonna be a happy ending here.

Nope. More fools gold. More disappointment & embarrassment to come. By this time next year, after the same or worse performance, the stars will no longer be aligned. This was a real chance at fixing it. Jerry just made it clear, as so many have already realized, he doesn't care about winning, unless it's all about him. Own it Jerry. This is on you.....
 
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