Video: This Paris Campbell Kid Can Actually Play

[thunderpimp91]

Was only going on how they looked with reps go look at some film of how they looked and come back with a more informed response.

LOL...based on that response you either don't watch film or you don't know what you're looking at when you do break down film. I would love....LOVE for you to give me even one game of film for me to go back and watch in Mingo's career where he looked like a #2WR. Campbell you could at least make a mild argument for based on a few of his 2022 games, but neither has been anywhere close to a consistent #2 guy. With the playing time they have been given neither has produced to a wr2 level. Mingo has a career 0.72 Yards per route run. Campbell a 1.01 y/rr. To compare Michael Gallup the year before he was forced into retirement was a 0.96. You're typical #2 types are going to be in the 1.4-1.8 range on average. The efficiency levels for both of these guys throughout their careers has been below average, and in Mingo's case is at a level where guys wont stick around to make a roster for very long.

But please if you have even one single game, especially on Mingo that shows him being a starting caliber WR I'm begging you to let me know which one it is. I'll absolutely go watch it and report back with what I find over the next day or two.

 

[Pass2Run]

LOL...based on that response you either don't watch film or you don't know what you're looking at when you do break down film. I would love....LOVE for you to give me even one game of film for me to go back and watch in Mingo's career where he looked like a #2WR. Campbell you could at least make a mild argument for based on a few of his 2022 games, but neither has been anywhere close to a consistent #2 guy. With the playing time they have been given neither has produced to a wr2 level. Mingo has a career 0.72 Yards per route run. Campbell a 1.01 y/rr. To compare Michael Gallup the year before he was forced into retirement was a 0.96. You're typical #2 types are going to be in the 1.4-1.8 range on average. The efficiency levels for both of these guys throughout their careers has been below average, and in Mingo's case is at a level where guys wont stick around to make a roster for very long.

But please if you have even one single game, especially on Mingo that shows him being a starting caliber WR I'm begging you to let me know which one it is. I'll absolutely go watch it and report back with what I find over the next day or two.

Tolbert > Mingo

 

[conner01]

"Looked solid in Indy"

18 catches his first year. 6 catches his second year. 10 catches his third year. Missed a bunch of games all 3 seasons.

Then in year 4 he broke out for 63 catches and 3 TDs at a whopping 9.9 yards a catch. Showcasing all that speed.

He's a roster filling stiff.

Other than injury my wuestion is why he got so little targets early in his career. Seemed like a lot of times he was just not targeted. Maybe because he wasn’t open

 

[conner01]

Tolbert > Mingo

Mingo is a camp body. Campbell will get a shot at making the roster. It’s on him to take advantage of the opportunities

 

[blueblood70]

I've lost any hope I had for Cropper. I mean, some players bloom late, but all we've seen from him are flashes that keep him around on the PS.

I think our six receivers will come down to Lamb, Draft pick, Tolbert, Turpin, Campbell, Mingo and Flournoy.

This could be true but that's what training camps for one guy could finally breakthrough, miles Austin took two full off seasons plus the third season, to start coming into his own.. he did absolutely nothing his first two years really almost three years... Guys like Cedric Wilson and other guys that found a niche here like Noah brown took a while to do it I know people thought they just came here and they were good no they built themselves into good they had to get the coaches having faith that these guys can play, start to trust these guys, and then they started getting more playing time...

By the way,

I don't think any of the last three guys you picked there on your list are a shoe-in to make the team.. so it's not going to come down to them they will have to fight in camp and PS I don't think Campbell, Mingo, or Flournoy are safe, because it's a different coaching staff with a different set of eyes and a different vision for this offense, so they're going to be watching closely...

I also believe that after the draft and when they start running these camps especially training camp I think you're going to see a veteran wide receiver be brought in here on the same level as say Brandon cooks just at a discounted rate.. Painting cooks was not worth 6 million or even $8 million I know people tend to think that but man there's some of these receivers that didn't play very well last year..

Looking at a lot of these aged veterans that had bad years last year they either were traded for or picked up as free agents ,they weren't better than Tolbert last year..

I can see Tolbert working his way into wide receiver 2 at some point, people have seemed to have no faith in this guy, and he's been getting better every year and he might be a slow developer, but I think he wants to be better and I think with the right coaching and scheme to get this guy in a better position at worst I can see him being our next Cedric Wilson someone you can depend on even Noah brown but for sure he's a lot to make the team..

so, I'm not mad at the Cowboys for not participating and over paying some of these players when there might be another one caught soon or just one out there right now that will get a look here just like I think they might bring in a veteran #2 quarterback that people just don't realize because they think Jerry and everybody's done they're not done they're known that they wait till after the draft and until camp starts to finish their free agency..

I can easily see these three positions be brought more in here in the next month, LT backup, Vet QB BU, and Vet WR2...

 

[blueblood70]

Mingo is a camp body. Campbell will get a shot at making the roster. It’s on him to take advantage of the opportunities

I don't know about that I can't body only I don't think they're going to throw away a fourth round pick yet they have his rights for how much longer? He may not be active every game you may not make the roster as far as being a regular call up but I don't think they're giving up on Mingo yet, those camp bodies you're talking about are all the other ones that seem to show up in camp and not show up in preseason games or when the season starts there's plenty of those still on our team and one of them could be Campbell they're all going to need to fight for playing time and where they rank on this roster that is what camp is for...

It'll be interesting to see what they do in the draft because I'm all for getting a better receiver as wide receiver 2 but what kind what is this coaching staff really telling Jerry they want is it gonna be a guy with more speed the ability to get open like Matthew golden are they going to want a possession receiver that can win jump balls and be in the red zone like TET or Ebuka..

My point is I think the type of receiver they pick in the draft will determine which one of these guys make it if they get a faster like golden or even bond just depends where they pick their wr 1st round or the third round or whatever.. that will directly determine on the types they will keep for backups

if they go after a guy like TET or Ebuka big body WR, Mingo will have tough time making the 53 but might make the team but not active much .BUT if they get a speedster , He could be in the fold.

 

[Sydla]

The Commander doesn't know JAG and with a Federal Conviction can't even enlist due to the UCMJ.

For the record here, this is the off season and the Scouts do know their crap.

They do? LOL.

 

[Sydla]

Never forget

I just can't.............. LOL

 

[Pass2Run]

Mingo is a camp body. Campbell will get a shot at making the roster. It’s on him to take advantage of the opportunities

Very expensive camp body..

 

[blueblood70]

CeeDee is QB proof and that's a very rare WR.

It's actually not that rare, the only rarity is it's common in the superstar stud wide receivers. I saw Terrell Owens go get 1000 yards everywhere he went pretty much just ate up it doesn't matter who was throwing on the ball just ate up defenses I see the same thing with Jamar chase Justin Jefferson CD lamb you remember Fitzgerald how many times did he have great quarterbacks but he always had big years that's why it's not rare the rarity is actually finding a receiver like that and that's why you keep him people don't like paying guys $40 million but when they're that rare sometimes you have to...

And look at even Brandin cooks, I know he got old fast and he's no longer the same player but he moved around a lot and almost always did what had 1000 yard season it was pretty good up until he got older and even then teams didn't keep him around long it doesn't make a lot of sense but you're saying it's rare when I'm saying the rare part would be having superstar wide receivers that can do this that's why they're deemed superstars that's why they're making the big money.. Even Amari Cooper when you can keep him motivated didn't matter who he was playing with he usually was probably going to get you 1000 yards and yet he's moved around....

I think the rarity comes from finding that player that stays motivated that doesn't need to be motivated he's self motivated that's why these players are getting this money it's those guys who are the most consistent are the ones motivating themselves and the only motivation they need is to be lined up across from a defensive back they want to destroy..

 

[blueblood70]

Very expensive camp body..

Actually, he's pretty cheap.....

calling 4th rounder expensive and I get it it sucks not having that 4th rounder but he's not making any money he's on a rookie contract that's easily cut it's not the first or the last player in the NFL to give a draft pick two that seem too high and then doesn't make it that just happens I'm not condoning it but he's not expensive at all you're assuming whoever we would have picked up with that 4th rounder was going To be a better player or a superstar and we don't know that either.

I mean think about this you give up the draft pick but you don't have to give up the money the people that are expensive are the ones you trade extensive draft picks for and they have a market contract due are already making a very very big money you know guys like Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson your team gave up the house for them and then handed them record amounts of money, how about the eagles in free agency going after a guy like huff paying him $17 million a year for three years and he has a huge disappointment so they gave up$17 million a year to have them not even make the active game day roster for the Super bowl...

those are expensive guys 1/4 rounder may seem terrible but not when you have perspective and again yes it was a waste of 1/4 rounder but he's cheap what if he does eventually get molded into a good player?

 

[blueblood70]

And then... he came to Dallas.

So what's the problem here? three other teams thought he was worth a look, but Dallas is the one making a mistake?

I thought that you said that about Trey Lance too and I don't know it seems to be on his third team now I guess nobody learns their lessons huh the NFL will always try to get the talent out of a player that may have failed somewhere else I mean Trey Lance just got $6 million with the chargers supposed to be a playoff team with a smart head coach and a smart coaching staff and a real GM and how are they making the same mistake the Cowboys made?

 

[Pass2Run]

I'm being honest here. I look at Campbell's college tape and he was a lot like . . . Golden.

 

[plymkr]

I like the potential.

Colts fans talk about how he should have been utilized more in the slot.

There’s potential there. I like potential and a glimmer of hope. You never know what a change in scenery and QB can do for a WR. We need a surprise at WR. Hopefully he is a signing that flies under the radar and pays off for us.

 

[blueblood70]

Tolbert > Mingo

Actually Tolbert is the second-best receiving target on this team right now, I mean pre-draft, He is WR2 I mean, I know Turpin will probably have a larger role this year but Right now that is true, He better be better than Mingo, he's better than half the free agents and traded wide receivers that's went so far this offseason, most had bad/off years last year.. But just pure stats that's true I mean go back and look at some guys like that you guys wanted to pick up in free agency their numbers weren't that good last year or at least about on par with Tolbert..

 

[Pass2Run]

Actually Tolbert is the second-best receiving target on this team right now, I mean pre-draft, He is WR2 I mean, I know Turpin will probably have a larger role this year but Right now that is true, He better be better than Mingo, he's better than half the free agents and traded wide receivers that's went so far this offseason, most had bad/off years last year.. But just pure stats that's true I mean go back and look at some guys like that you guys wanted to pick up in free agency their numbers weren't that good last year or at least about on par with Tolbert..

Tolbert is going to have a nice career. He's was still an unfinished product last year. Will be better this year if he stays healthy.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Don't know if he can play but I'd give him a shot. I don't get the urgency and desperation for a "number 2" with this team. I don't recall this talking point in 2022 or 2023 when the offense was putting up points. Playoff failure has nothing to do with a wr2

I’ve been screaming for a WR2 for 3 years since Amaris been gone. They put up points vs bad teams but don’t have legitimate threats vs the playoff teams besides CD.

No one on this offense scares defenses other than one guy. The draft needs a big time back and a dangerous WR, whether it’s Golden or TMac.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Tolbert is going to have a nice career. He's was still an unfinished product last year. Will be better this year if he stays healthy.

Going into year 4 he is what he is. He’s a solid guy that can make some nice catches a game, but isn’t a go to player. He’s the new Cedrick Wilson. If you have WR1 and 2 filled he’s a good piece to give you bonus yards.

 

[dupree89]

I'll take my chances with lesser guys like him and maybe someone in the draft. A few guys on here suggested trading for Tyreek Hill. Did you see that loser found himself in trouble again this week? Some guys just cant steer clear of problems. Not a guy you push on a first time ever head coach.

 

[blueblood70]

Tolbert is going to have a nice career. He's was still an unfinished product last year. Will be better this year if he stays healthy.

I agree you'll probably have a solid career maybe better than Cedric Wilson right now I not have any high hopes any expectations I just know he'll probably steadily get better he'll peak but he'll be a solid contributor and was not a bad pick...

If I had to guess where his career is going probably Michael Gallup Just slower to get there But I think he's gonna be that and if he doesn't have a major injury to his knee maybe that's where he's headed...