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Start following the NBA. The Washington Wizards and Dallas Mavericks aren't dissapointing this year... how crazy would it be if both met in the NBA Finals?
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smarta5150
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Watch the Suns right now (ABC).
They are actually a ton of fun to watch.
They play the best TEAM basketball in a loooong long time, possibly the best ever.
They are actually a ton of fun to watch.
They play the best TEAM basketball in a loooong long time, possibly the best ever.
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www.CowboysVids.comjgboys1;1344218 said:
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yea i my and brother n me were just discussing this. Luckily for me i started getting into the NBA again with the Mavs playing great ball and its fun to watch the Suns play. their like the Saints or Colts of the NBA. also here in SA its fun when the Spurs lose!!!!!! haha
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Da Hammer;1344259 said:
And the WESTERN Conference is the AFC of the NFL.
The EASTERN Conference would be the NFC - possibly worse.
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Biggems;1344263 said:
Spurs = Over.:laugh2:
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Go Mavs!
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Anybody who doesn't like the NBA can blame Michael Jordan, David Stearn and the Detroit Pistons for the way it is now.
In the 80s it was AWESOME! Great teams playing great team ball. Then along comes Michael Jordan, the ultimate one-on-one playground player, and the Detroit Pistons with their thuggish type of defense, and the went downhill fast.
Gone were the days of Magic, Bird, Stockton (I know he kept playing for a long time to come but that style of ball didn't work in the NBA anymore), Kevin Johnson, and many others who understood what it was to play team basketball. The idea was to get your teammates involved, who are constantly moving, and exploit weaknesses in your opponents.
Teams didn't have just one superstar but at least 2-3 plus several other guys who were outstanding players, usually 7-8 deep. Now you have one superstar, one or two others who are outstanding, and the rest are scrubs who bounce from one team to another.
Now it is all about standing around and watching your "superstar" with the ball drive into triple-coverage and throw up a crazy shot hoping to get the foul, or jacking up 3 pointers as soon as you get down the court.
A few teams have returned to the team ball game and it has brought about somewhat of a resurgence in the last couple of years but they are in the minority and the rules don't favor that type of game anymore.
And for those who think the college game is still "pure" you are living in a fantasy world. Every game I watch shows the same type of playground ball that they have in the NBA. The rules may be enforced a little more strictly but it is still the same game as the pros play.
Michael Jordan ruined basketball as we knew it and took it down to the level of the playground.
Being a life-long Lakers fan and having attended about half of the home games in the 80s I can say with absolute certainty that that was the best brand of basketball that has ever been played. The rivalries with the Celtics, Sixers, Jazz, and Rocktes was really something else and made every game more exciting. Everywhere the Lakers played all you heard was "Beat LA". They were the Cowboys of the NBA.
I still root for them and watch when I can (I'm on the other coast now so I don't see the local broadcasts now) but it isn't the same as it used to be, far from it.
In the 80s it was AWESOME! Great teams playing great team ball. Then along comes Michael Jordan, the ultimate one-on-one playground player, and the Detroit Pistons with their thuggish type of defense, and the went downhill fast.
Gone were the days of Magic, Bird, Stockton (I know he kept playing for a long time to come but that style of ball didn't work in the NBA anymore), Kevin Johnson, and many others who understood what it was to play team basketball. The idea was to get your teammates involved, who are constantly moving, and exploit weaknesses in your opponents.
Teams didn't have just one superstar but at least 2-3 plus several other guys who were outstanding players, usually 7-8 deep. Now you have one superstar, one or two others who are outstanding, and the rest are scrubs who bounce from one team to another.
Now it is all about standing around and watching your "superstar" with the ball drive into triple-coverage and throw up a crazy shot hoping to get the foul, or jacking up 3 pointers as soon as you get down the court.
A few teams have returned to the team ball game and it has brought about somewhat of a resurgence in the last couple of years but they are in the minority and the rules don't favor that type of game anymore.
And for those who think the college game is still "pure" you are living in a fantasy world. Every game I watch shows the same type of playground ball that they have in the NBA. The rules may be enforced a little more strictly but it is still the same game as the pros play.
Michael Jordan ruined basketball as we knew it and took it down to the level of the playground.
Being a life-long Lakers fan and having attended about half of the home games in the 80s I can say with absolute certainty that that was the best brand of basketball that has ever been played. The rivalries with the Celtics, Sixers, Jazz, and Rocktes was really something else and made every game more exciting. Everywhere the Lakers played all you heard was "Beat LA". They were the Cowboys of the NBA.
I still root for them and watch when I can (I'm on the other coast now so I don't see the local broadcasts now) but it isn't the same as it used to be, far from it.
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i guess u never watched the Celtics play the Lakers....they were doing things that the Pistons became famous for.
Physical basketball has been around for a very long time. So why you blame the Pistons, I have no idea. In fact, if you want an excellent example of team play, the Bad Boy Pistons are it. They had like 5-7 guys a night in double figures. They were unselfish on offense, and were superb at help defense.
I do blame Stern, MJ, and ESPN.
Stern marketed the one-on-one stylings of players like MJ.....MJ made it popular to be a one man army out there.....and Sportscenter made it to where the only way you get a highlight is if you are dunking on someone....nevermind the midrange jumper, the 3pt shot, FTs, crisp passing, or team defense....it is all about the one on one dunk fest.
Physical basketball has been around for a very long time. So why you blame the Pistons, I have no idea. In fact, if you want an excellent example of team play, the Bad Boy Pistons are it. They had like 5-7 guys a night in double figures. They were unselfish on offense, and were superb at help defense.
I do blame Stern, MJ, and ESPN.
Stern marketed the one-on-one stylings of players like MJ.....MJ made it popular to be a one man army out there.....and Sportscenter made it to where the only way you get a highlight is if you are dunking on someone....nevermind the midrange jumper, the 3pt shot, FTs, crisp passing, or team defense....it is all about the one on one dunk fest.
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Right..Right...Jordan ruined Basketball. gimme a break, hes probably the only player in NBA history who could change the course of a game all by himself. He was capable of doing it. Not all these wanna bes now a days like Lebron, Kobe, Carmelo etc..
There will never be another Michael Jordan, period. GO BULLS!! and he certainly didnt ruin the game lmao
There will never be another Michael Jordan, period. GO BULLS!! and he certainly didnt ruin the game lmao
Biggems
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Jordan was very good....but he didnt become great until he learned to be a team player...until he learned to trust his teammates . Only then did he win 6 rings in the 90s.
I am not actually saying Jordan ruined the NBA....what I mean by that, is that his popularity, along with his style of play helped to ruin the product. All the wannabes who tried to copy his game, but couldn't.......guys like Vince, McGrady, Bryant, etc.....were the ones that ruined the game that the 80s made so fun to watch.
The sheer marketing and entertainment value that Jordan brought to the table was huge and helped to save the NBA.
I am not actually saying Jordan ruined the NBA....what I mean by that, is that his popularity, along with his style of play helped to ruin the product. All the wannabes who tried to copy his game, but couldn't.......guys like Vince, McGrady, Bryant, etc.....were the ones that ruined the game that the 80s made so fun to watch.
The sheer marketing and entertainment value that Jordan brought to the table was huge and helped to save the NBA.