This team is as close as it has ever been

[Galian Beast]

If we were healthy and at full strength, I think we're better than Green Bay.

If we can get Fiammetta, Austin, Sean Lee, Sensabaugh, and Jenkins all back to health, I think we can make a pretty good run.

People are hating on our defense but in the last 4 weeks this defense has allowed an average of 15.75 points per game...

That's pretty good. That is WITH the offense and special teams putting them in some tough spots.

All of that being said, I think one good off season really puts us over the top.

We can fix the offensive line and secondary with free agency and the draft.

3-4 free agents, 1st-3rd round rookies + Bruce Carter.

 

[perrykemp]

If we were healthy and at full strength, I think we're better than Green Bay.

If we can get Fiammetta, Austin, Sean Lee, Sensabaugh, and Jenkins all back to health, I think we can make a pretty good run.

People are hating on our defense but in the last 4 weeks this defense has allowed an average of 15.75 points per game...

That's pretty good. That is WITH the offense and special teams putting them in some tough spots.

All of that being said, I think one good off season really puts us over the top.

We can fix the offensive line and secondary with free agency and the draft.

3-4 free agents, 1st-3rd round rookies + Bruce Carter.

The ability for another team other than the Packers to win the SB or in our case represent the NFC in the SB really comes down to how good you think the Packers defense is. Their offense is clearly the class of the NFL and Rogers is having a seasons for the ages.

The Packers defense gives up a ton of yards, however, is the in the middle of the pack in points allowed and #2 or #3 in forced turn-overs.

If Grossman and Moore, basically a couple of NFL #2 or #3 QBs take us to the wire in back-to-back weeks, I'm not onboard with your idea that we are anywhere near as good as the Packers.

Having said that, if they meet in the NFC Championship.... On any given day...

 

[CATCH17]

We're not as good as the Packers but we can beat the Packers.

Beating the Giants is the critical game looming though.

 

[Galian Beast]

We're not as good as the Packers but we can beat the Packers.

Beating the Giants is the critical game looming though.

The Giants are second most overrated team we have on our schedule right behind the Patriots.

The Packers have a high flying passing attack that can put up points, but they can't run the ball very well.

Detroit shut them down pretty well early on in that game. It CAN be done. Teams that are more balanced offer greater issues for one dimensional teams. It's how we beat the Saints, and it's how we beat Indianapolis that one year they were undefeated.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I thought this was a rebuilding year?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

NY JETS scored 27
SF scored 24
WAS scored 16
DET scored 34

NE scored 20
STL scored 7
PHI scored 34
SEA scored 13

BUF scored 7
WAS scored 24
MIA scored 19



Some random thoughts about above.



So, almost half of the games, thus far we have given up 20 or more pts SIX times.


Its werd, Brady nets 20 pts and Grossman nets 40 pts(2 games).


If not for Plax abusing our secondary, we not only win that game but the Jets only get 14 pts or so.


Detroit - wait, I cant think about that one - no thoughts lol

 

[TellerMorrow34]

We're not as good as the Packers but we can beat the Packers.

Beating the Giants is the critical game looming though.

This is how I feel. The Packers are just insanely good on offense and Aaron is just balling out of his mind.

We could win but it would take a near perfect effort.

 

[Trajan]

We are lucky the NFL is filled with poor teams just like us. Sadly, I have come to the understanding that I need to accept the ever deteriorating quality of play and hope that with our easy schedule we can bungle our way to continued victories.

 

[perrykemp]

We're not as good as the Packers but we can beat the Packers.

Beating the Giants is the critical game looming though.

Packers are not unstoppable. I do, however, believe they are the most talented and probably the deepest team in the league and that gives them a pronounced advantage in any game.

The team that beats the Packers (if it occurs) is the team that can get constant pressurre on Rogers without blitzing. His QB rating against the Blitz is nearly 140. He eats it alive.

We unfortunately, haven't been able to get constant pressure on Rex Grossman or Matt Moore. That doesn't bode well in a game against A-Rod.

More than anything this coming off-season, we need another bona-fide pass-rusher in addition to Ware.

 

[datsrcool]

I dont think you realize just how bad the Fins and Skins are to be mentioning G B. Is this a joke? The way we have looked the past two games, I can't think of another reason except maybe alcohol!

 

[CATCH17]

The Giants are second most overrated team we have on our schedule right behind the Patriots.

The Packers have a high flying passing attack that can put up points, but they can't run the ball very well.

Detroit shut them down pretty well early on in that game. It CAN be done. Teams that are more balanced offer greater issues for one dimensional teams. It's how we beat the Saints, and it's how we beat Indianapolis that one year they were undefeated.

I think Eli and the Giants are lucky to be where they are at but we still have to treat them like the 85 Bears because in 3 weeks they will be fighting for their season.

It's going to be like a playoff game.

 

[casmith07]

GB, I'd prefer no free agents and continue to build internally. Green Bay right now has something absurd like 48/53 guys they drafted themselves on the active roster. That's awesome. The good teams continue to draft well and develop talent in-house. Teams that have tried to win free agency every year (Commanders) always falter because they bring in progress-stopper after progress-stopper for their depth chart guys instead of coaching them up to get ready to start one day.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Packers are not unstoppable. I do, however, believe they are the most talented and probably the deepest team in the league and that gives them a pronounced advantage in any game.

The team that beats the Packers (if it occurs) is the team that can get constant pressurre on Rogers without blitzing. His QB rating against the Blitz is nearly 140. He eats it alive.

We unfortunately, haven't been able to get constant pressure on Rex Grossman or Matt Moore. That doesn't bode well in a game against A-Rod.

More than anything this coming off-season, we need another bona-fide pass-rusher in addition to Ware.

I read the bold and I think. How many teams said that about us in the 90's ?


I know on any given Sunday but I believe this SB is for the Packers to lose.

 

[casmith07]

NY JETS scored 27
SF scored 24
WAS scored 16
DET scored 34

NE scored 20
STL scored 7
PHI scored 34
SEA scored 13

BUF scored 7
WAS scored 24
MIA scored 19



Some random thoughts about above.



So, almost half of the games, thus far we have given up 20 or more pts SIX times.


Its werd, Brady nets 20 pts and Grossman nets 40 pts(2 games).


If not for Plax abusing our secondary, we not only win that game but the Jets only get 14 pts or so.


Detroit - wait, I cant think about that one - no thoughts lol

Romo giftwrapped a lot of points and so did the punt team.

 

[Galian Beast]

I thought this was a rebuilding year?

I scoffed at people who said that before...

Just because we implement a new defensive system, doesn't make it a rebuilding year.

There are two types of people who claimed that it was a rebuilding year.

People that didn't think the Cowboys would do well this year.

&

People who wanted the Cowboys to do well, but wanted to hedge their bets by saying it was a rebuilding year.

The most rebuilding has been done on the offensive line and with the new defensive system.

Regardless of it's success the team is still learning the defensive system. And the offensive line is still showing a lot of inconsistencies. What's overcoming it though is the talent level of the team. People wanted to say dallas wasn't as talented as people give us credit for. That just isn't true. We have had a lot of talent, but it's concentrated in certain positions. That has been a problem.

I call last year Jason Garrett Year 0, this is Jason Garrett Year 1. I think In Year 2, you see an offense more cohesive and in sync. I think we'll bring in more help for the interior line, and for the secondary, and potentially the defensive line.

 

[JoeCorrado]

We are in a great position to win the division right now, but the Super Bowl? It would be a Cindarella season for sure. I'd take it.

The Packers are the Patriots of the NFC - great offenses... questionable defenses. We are in the same mold. Just not as experienced as a group playing together. We can compete against them well enough on a good day. Or even beat them on a great day if they aren't on their game. But if all things are equal we would be very beatable by either one. Our offense is good but not as polished as theirs, even when completely healthy.

Not a big fan of going after more than two or three players in free agency and we have as you say several areas that need addressed. Thankfully none are skill positions on offense. Add more skill to the o-line and we are set.the problems are mostly on defense and that is where we should add a FA at CB since Newman may not be back and a solid guy up front who can compliment Ware... a pressure generating lineman would be ideal. An OLB who can cover would be nice... and depth at safety. Plenty of squeaky wheels on defense.

That is why I don't see us getting a sniff of the SB. Win the division and a home playoff win is my hope this season. Maybe better next season.

 

[perrykemp]

GB, I'd prefer no free agents and continue to build internally. Green Bay right now has something absurd like 48/53 guys they drafted themselves on the active roster.

So this. If we do a good job with the draft and with undrafted free-agents, we won't need to sign high priced FAs.

The fact that the Packers have exactly two FAs (Woodson and Pickett), both of which are on their 2nd Packer contracts, is a testament to that strategy. Their other 20 starters are all draft picks.

 

[Dwight]

GB, I'd prefer no free agents and continue to build internally. Green Bay right now has something absurd like 48/53 guys they drafted themselves on the active roster. That's awesome. The good teams continue to draft well and develop talent in-house. Teams that have tried to win free agency every year (Commanders) always falter because they bring in progress-stopper after progress-stopper for their depth chart guys instead of coaching them up to get ready to start one day.

Add Philly to the list with the Commanders now. They used a similar method like Green Bay and went away from it.

You are right, drafting well is one of the keys to being successful in the NFL.

 

[Galian Beast]

NY JETS scored 27
SF scored 24
WAS scored 16
DET scored 34

NE scored 20
STL scored 7
PHI scored 34
SEA scored 13

BUF scored 7
WAS scored 24
MIA scored 19



Some random thoughts about above.



So, almost half of the games, thus far we have given up 20 or more pts SIX times.


Its werd, Brady nets 20 pts and Grossman nets 40 pts(2 games).


If not for Plax abusing our secondary, we not only win that game but the Jets only get 14 pts or so.


Detroit - wait, I cant think about that one - no thoughts lol

San Fransisco scored 24 points. Kitna also threw 2 interceptions.
Detroit 2 pick sixes, 3 total interceptions.


New England scored 20 points, and it's because we were generally healthy. It should have only been 14 points, but Garrett got super conservative.

Philadelphia is a mulligan.

You don't put enough emphasis on personnel that's why you are confused by New England and Washington.

 

[rickwil61]

Not to sound too cliche but I'm thinking about Arizona right now and not so much how we stack up with the rest of the league. I think we have a very good team but the offense looked a little like street football a few times yesterday. The defense struggled against a surprisingly good Miami offense. I do like our ability to improvise and make things happen but you have to admit that any of those 3 throws that Romo made in the second half yesterday, with defenders all over him, could have easily went the other way. This isn't meant as a criticism of Romo because I like his moxie. But my point is that although we have a good team, there are a lot of other good teams in the league that are capable of beating us. I think that each week will be an adventure from here on out.