This team isn't in as bad of shape as you may think

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After this year, I'm not a believer that regardless of talent, if Romo goes down, we are done. 1-10 without him is just sad. Coaches have to bring something to the table and Garrett does not. I wanted to believe in him, but after this year. Nope.
 

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I think that saying he brings "nothing to the table" is a bit harsh. The roster he took over and the roster we have now are very, very different and much better now in my opinion. He has this team battling every week, no matter how awful their record is. Also, it's not like we're getting blown out. 7 of our losses this year have been by one touchdown or less. Surely he brings something to the team.

However, I do agree that it is inexcusable to lose as many games as we have this year, injuries be damned. A better coach might have been able to creatively win us some games. Jason Garrett is not that guy.

How would you feel if the team brought in a new Offensive Coordinator and a new scheme and left Garrett to being a talent finder and motivator type HC? I think if Garrett was willing to give up his outdated scheme in favor of one that is more dynamic and creative, we would see a lot more success.

The roster we had when are took over was dismantled and the roster we have now he had a hand in it. His team is battling every week but they keep finding ways to lose winnable games in the second half/4th quarter. This is the same problem the team had during those 8-8 seasons under him. This team has to win out just to equal the 6 wins the 2010 team had and that team was able to win 5 games with 2 backup QBs. If the Cowboys don't win another game this season they'll finish worse than any of Dave Camp's teams that had a worse QB and RB situation. This will be the worst season since 89 if the Cowboys don't win another game. There's too much talent on this team to be sitting here at 4-10.

If Garrett was the head coach of any other team he would have already been fired. Belichick was able to win 11 games with Cassel and other teams won more games with him than we did. Brandon Weeden never won a game with the Cowboys but has already won a game in Houston after only being there a few weeks. Even Jerry said he expected more wins with the backup QBs we have. After 5 full seasons it's clear Garrett isn't the answer and the Cowboys are just spinning their wheels with him.
 

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After this year, I'm not a believer that regardless of talent, if Romo goes down, we are done. 1-10 without him is just sad. Coaches have to bring something to the table and Garrett does not. I wanted to believe in him, but after this year. Nope.

I'm mostly in the same boat. I really thought Garrett could coach some wins. I've been very disappointed by him this year. He went from being a great coaching prospect to meh, in my eyes. I'm slightly biased I think just because I've met him and know that he really is intelligent and an incredibly good person. I wish he had a more creative scheme.
 

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The roster we had when are took over was dismantled and the roster we have now he had a hand in it. His team is battling every week but they keep finding ways to lose winnable games in the second half/4th quarter. This is the same problem the team had during those 8-8 seasons under him. This team has to win out just to equal the 6 wins the 2010 team had and that team was able to win 5 games with 2 backup QBs. If the Cowboys don't win another game this season they'll finish worse than any of Dave Camp's teams that had a worse QB and RB situation. This will be the worst season since 89 if the Cowboys don't win another game. There's too much talent on this team to be sitting here at 4-10.

If Garrett was the head coach of any other team he would have already been fired. Belichick was able to win 11 games with Cassel and other teams won more games with him than we did. Brandon Weeden never won a game with the Cowboys but has already won a game in Houston after only being there a few weeks. Even Jerry said he expected more wins with the backup QBs we have. After 5 full seasons it's clear Garrett isn't the answer and the Cowboys are just spinning their wheels with him.

There's nothing in your post that I can argue. I can definitely say that this year has changed my perception of Garrett in a negative way. I had so much hope in him that he would develop into the next great Cowboys HC. Maybe that will still happen. It took Coughlin and Belichick a long time to win a SB as a HC. Maybe someday Garrett will too, but I don't want to wait around until he does.
 

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As long as we have that clapping red headed robot at HC we're in trouble.

No one was saying that last year. I guess all you guys calling for his head were just stupid then.
 

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There's nothing in your post that I can argue. I can definitely say that this year has changed my perception of Garrett in a negative way. I had so much hope in him that he would develop into the next great Cowboys HC. Maybe that will still happen. It took Coughlin and Belichick a long time to win a SB as a HC. Maybe someday Garrett will too, but I don't want to wait around until he does.

It appeared the team had turned the corner last season and I was fine with Garrett coming back but it's obvious as big a failure as this season has been that last season was an aberration. This season we reverted back to what we saw during those 8-8 seasons that were filled with coaching mistakes and blown games in the second/half 4th quarter. Coughlin and Belichick earned the right to be head coaches. They both spent years working their way up the coaching ladder. It took Belichick 16 years before he became an NFL HC. He was a very successful defensive coordinator with the Giants earning 2 SB rings. It took Coughlin 26 years to get an NFL head coaching opportunity while Garrett was handed his head coaching opportunity after only 6 years of coaching experience.

He wasn't even a successful OC being criticized at that job. He ended up being stripped of his play calling duties after becoming the head coach. Jerry has always felt anyone of 500 coaches could coach the team because he has so much control over every move that's made. He continues trying to develop Garrett as a head coach and it's led to 4 non winning seasons in 5 years. Now with Romo aging the Cowboys are headed for what could be another stretch of lean years and it's going to take a solid head coach to right the ship.
 

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No one was saying that last year. I guess all you guys calling for his head were just stupid then.

Most of us realists were saying after last season let's see if the team can validate with another solid season this year. While you and many other FANS were making the Cowboys part of your SB plans in 2015 the rest of us were in the wait and see mode. The stupid ones were the ones anointing red clapper as great coach after one good season.
 

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Most of us realists were saying after last season let's see if the team can validate with another solid season this year. While you and many other FANS were making the Cowboys part of your SB plans in 2015 the rest of us were in the wait and see mode. The stupid ones were the ones anointing red clapper as great coach after one good season.

99% of the board last year was giving him kudos last year.
 

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99% of the board last year was giving him kudos last year.

I gave him kudos last year check my archives but I still wasn't sold on him the team needed to validate and they didn't come close. Last year was an aberration.
 

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I gave him kudos last year check my archives but I still wasn't sold on him the team needed to validate and they didn't come close. Last year was an aberration.

Those claims from you of last year being an aberration don't exist. Only in your mind.
 

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Those claims from you of last year being an aberration don't exist. Only in your mind.

Never said last season was an aberration until a few weeks ago try. After last season I said the team needs to validate what had been a surprising 2014 season and they didn't come close. Have any positive spins on being 4-10 other than having a high draft pick?
 

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Never said last season was an aberration until a few weeks ago try. After last season I said the team needs to validate what had been a surprising 2014 season and they didn't come close. Have any positive spins on being 4-10 other than having a high draft pick?

Romo.
 

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Sitting at 4-10 is a lot deeper than losing Romo. One of the worst defeats all season was with him at QB. Now go spin that into something disparaging against him. lol
 

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I just wonder how much mileage Garrett will get out of 12-4.

I don't think nearly as much as Phillips got out of 13-3 or 11-5.

People that are lauding Garrett now and preach patience were the same people selling Phillips down the river after a 1-7 start.
 

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Sitting at 4-10 is a lot deeper than losing Romo. One of the worst defeats all season was with him at QB. Now go spin that into something disparaging against him. lol

So Romo sucks?
 

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How would you feel if the team brought in a new Offensive Coordinator and a new scheme and left Garrett to being a talent finder and motivator type HC? I think if Garrett was willing to give up his outdated scheme in favor of one that is more dynamic and creative, we would see a lot more success.

If Jerry Jones is going to stick with Garrett (and I think he will), that is exactly what he should do. I don't remember Linehan being some great offensive mind when he was at St Louis or Detroit. We desperatly need more creativity in this age of the new CBA. Every team is going to have more injuries than teams did in the 1990's, so you have to create a scheme that allows the QB to get the ball out fast and free up recievers with scheme rather than just pure skill.

Think about it, When was the last time we schemed a WR wide open? you hardly ever see it and we have one of the better offensive lines in the game. What happens when we get hit with the injury bug on the offensive line like the Patriots and Steelers did? Those teams were still able to win and still score lots of points. We need a new system and we need it before Tony Romo retires.
 
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