Tidbits from Jane Slater, Brad Sham & Mickey Saturday 29th

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wont be in any order, but as i can remember:
1. David Irving is a nice guy and will tell you what you want to know, there isnt so much a culture problem as much but guys making wrong decisions, like Demontrae, cowboys knew he had a dui in seattle, and any time you get a dui your going to get suspended, but be aware of the media, and internet social activity so be smart, dont do anything wrong against the law, but be smart, like zeke, be smart and aware of persons around you and you affect other persons, even cowboys fans with your actions.
For instance Dak was asked this question how he would respond to zeke and his issue, dak said he will be there to support the players, tell them issues he went through, and take care of that in house. Brad talked about Dak's 1st year and during offseason and OTAs Brad didnt see anything spectular, but in training camp with Babe Brad saw how Dak took the team down the field in blue and white scrimmage best I remember, and boom, boom, right down the field. How Dak is very dedicated, toward his approach towards football on and off the field, how he asorbs everything you give him and wants more, thrives on that, and you see the leadership. How players gravitate to Dak, and he is a true leader, just same way players on defense gravitate to SEan Lee and now Jaylon smith.

2. Mickey talked about how impressed with Jordan CB, how he could have settled out of court, but didnt want that on his record, he knew he was innoncent, and when he went into court, 5 women were on the jury trial, but after court got underway, they saw his side, how he did nothing wrong, how character, (Jordan told mickey he was a forgiving person, and how he forgave the woman) but he was so relieved how his family add to go through this with him, the courage, righetousness, character, fortitude would serve him well as a cb. If you remember, Gil Brandt former head scout of cowboys said that Jordan was the top cb in the draft to him, and some teams said jordan would have been a number 1 pick or number 2 pick in the 2nd round if not for the court trial. Also, I reported on this, when going through team drills, Jordan caught the ball with one hand, kinda like how dez does it easy.

3. Brad said to keep an eye as you know on Auzie, 2nd cb, very talented, Lewis Neal, a young DE whom is making waves at DE and they have moved him to NT and still making waves. AS mos of you know keep an eye on Lael collins, who might be a monster at ROT. Now keep this in mind, their number 1 picks since Dez, are Bryan Jones, Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Zeke, Zach Martin, but now you have Jordan Lewis who would have been a number one pick in 1st round if not for trial, you have Jaylon Smith who would have been a top 5 pick last year, and Lael Collins if not for murder accussation, who went undrafted, guys are team is built. Add in Dak who if teams had to redraft he would have been a top pick in 1st round. Auzie would have been a top 1st rounder to but due to so many cbs in 1st round with defensive ends, we got Auzie in 2nd round. OUR TEAM IS BUILT!

Other biggest issue is team leadership but brad says he sees players that can step up now, so we wont lose that much with church, others gone.

Brad is curious to see Luke McCown is, either just a camp body or something at QB having been in the league for 10 years. He thinks but not sure that Zeke wont get suspended, Brad thinks what NFL is doing is complining stuff like Zeke issue with ex gf, pulling down womans tshirt, and bar fight, that if the NFL does suspend Zeke, Zeke will sue the NFL, remember Brady did that sued NFL and got suspension held up for a year i think in court. Also, I talked to a lawyer friend of mine and he said if cowboys do suspend Zeke, they will open pandaroas box, because basically their saying we dont like way your representing NFL with your issues, then that opens door for other players to be suspended if NFL so chooses,

also hillman is an extra body because brad thinks you might not see zeke to much in preseason and you cant beat up Rod Smith, and that the cowboys will play mcfadden just alittle.

also, subject got brought up a former player thinks cowboys are going to go more 4 wr sets, spread out defense, to which they have no linebackers, and that will enable zeke to throw to beasely, switzer, dez or terrance, and that defense will have to pick their poison, and if you try to cover them, then zeke will run over the defensive backs, and boom, boom touchdowns, because cbs safeties dont like to tackle a big back like zeke in open field. Theres more but thats all i can remember now
 

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Neal is listed in the Brugler draft guide at 274 pounds. If he can play 1T at that weight its pretty impressive.

The official roster (not the one on the website, but the one in the Cowboys' training camp guide) lists Neal at 6'0, 280 pounds. That build makes it hard for taller offensive linemen to gain leverage on him. As long as he's strong enough and fast enough, this kid could be a keeper. The only downside is he's unlikely to disrupt throwing lanes since, well, he's short for a DT.
 

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Thanks Joe!
also, subject got brought up a former player thinks cowboys are going to go more 4 wr sets, spread out defense, to which they have no linebackers, and that will enable zeke to throw to beasely, switzer, dez or terrance, and that defense will have to pick their poison, and if you try to cover them, then zeke will run over the defensive backs, and boom, boom touchdowns, because cbs safeties dont like to tackle a big back like zeke in open field.
This is good stuff. The offense is Super Bowl ready.
 

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He is taking third-team reps now that Ivey is out with a back injury. I'm not sure who the third team center is but it might not be as impressive as you think.

Behind T-Fred and Joe Looney, either Ross Burbank or Ruben Carter is the third team center. So, you have a great point.
 
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wont be in any order, but as i can remember:
1. David Irving is a nice guy and will tell you what you want to know, there isnt so much a culture problem as much but guys making wrong decisions, like Demontrae, cowboys knew he had a dui in seattle, and any time you get a dui your going to get suspended, but be aware of the media, and internet social activity so be smart, dont do anything wrong against the law, but be smart, like zeke, be smart and aware of persons around you and you affect other persons, even cowboys fans with your actions.
For instance Dak was asked this question how he would respond to zeke and his issue, dak said he will be there to support the players, tell them issues he went through, and take care of that in house. Brad talked about Dak's 1st year and during offseason and OTAs Brad didnt see anything spectular, but in training camp with Babe Brad saw how Dak took the team down the field in blue and white scrimmage best I remember, and boom, boom, right down the field. How Dak is very dedicated, toward his approach towards football on and off the field, how he asorbs everything you give him and wants more, thrives on that, and you see the leadership. How players gravitate to Dak, and he is a true leader, just same way players on defense gravitate to SEan Lee and now Jaylon smith.

2. Mickey talked about how impressed with Jordan CB, how he could have settled out of court, but didnt want that on his record, he knew he was innoncent, and when he went into court, 5 women were on the jury trial, but after court got underway, they saw his side, how he did nothing wrong, how character, (Jordan told mickey he was a forgiving person, and how he forgave the woman) but he was so relieved how his family add to go through this with him, the courage, righetousness, character, fortitude would serve him well as a cb. If you remember, Gil Brandt former head scout of cowboys said that Jordan was the top cb in the draft to him, and some teams said jordan would have been a number 1 pick or number 2 pick in the 2nd round if not for the court trial. Also, I reported on this, when going through team drills, Jordan caught the ball with one hand, kinda like how dez does it easy.

3. Brad said to keep an eye as you know on Auzie, 2nd cb, very talented, Lewis Neal, a young DE whom is making waves at DE and they have moved him to NT and still making waves. AS mos of you know keep an eye on Lael collins, who might be a monster at ROT. Now keep this in mind, their number 1 picks since Dez, are Bryan Jones, Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Zeke, Zach Martin, but now you have Jordan Lewis who would have been a number one pick in 1st round if not for trial, you have Jaylon Smith who would have been a top 5 pick last year, and Lael Collins if not for murder accussation, who went undrafted, guys are team is built. Add in Dak who if teams had to redraft he would have been a top pick in 1st round. Auzie would have been a top 1st rounder to but due to so many cbs in 1st round with defensive ends, we got Auzie in 2nd round. OUR TEAM IS BUILT!

Other biggest issue is team leadership but brad says he sees players that can step up now, so we wont lose that much with church, others gone.

Brad is curious to see Luke McCown is, either just a camp body or something at QB having been in the league for 10 years. He thinks but not sure that Zeke wont get suspended, Brad thinks what NFL is doing is complining stuff like Zeke issue with ex gf, pulling down womans tshirt, and bar fight, that if the NFL does suspend Zeke, Zeke will sue the NFL, remember Brady did that sued NFL and got suspension held up for a year i think in court. Also, I talked to a lawyer friend of mine and he said if cowboys do suspend Zeke, they will open pandaroas box, because basically their saying we dont like way your representing NFL with your issues, then that opens door for other players to be suspended if NFL so chooses,

also hillman is an extra body because brad thinks you might not see zeke to much in preseason and you cant beat up Rod Smith, and that the cowboys will play mcfadden just alittle.

also, subject got brought up a former player thinks cowboys are going to go more 4 wr sets, spread out defense, to which they have no linebackers, and that will enable zeke to throw to beasely, switzer, dez or terrance, and that defense will have to pick their poison, and if you try to cover them, then zeke will run over the defensive backs, and boom, boom touchdowns, because cbs safeties dont like to tackle a big back like zeke in open field. Theres more but thats all i can remember now


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Now keep this in mind, their number 1 picks since Dez, are Bryan Jones, Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Zeke, Zach Martin, but now you have Jordan Lewis who would have been a number one pick in 1st round if not for trial, you have Jaylon Smith who would have been a top 5 pick last year {if not for career threatening injury}, and Lael Collins if not for murder accussation, who went undrafted

Not to be a downer, but the bolded parts are not exactly selling points :)
 

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The official roster (not the one on the website, but the one in the Cowboys' training camp guide) lists Neal at 6'0, 280 pounds. That build makes it hard for taller offensive linemen to gain leverage on him. As long as he's strong enough and fast enough, this kid could be a keeper. The only downside is he's unlikely to disrupt throwing lanes since, well, he's short for a DT.

The Cowboys also like to put players out of position in order to evaluate or improve on something, like playing Rico Gathers playing OT in order to improve his blocking.

This could easily be a move to throw him in the deep end of the pool to sink or swim, but he is still making plays at 1T at 280 the kid likely has something.
 

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The Cowboys also like to put players out of position in order to evaluate or improve on something, like playing Rico Gathers playing OT in order to improve his blocking.

This could easily be a move to throw him in the deep end of the pool to sink or swim, but he is still making plays at 1T at 280 the kid likely has something.

I agree. Plus, if Neal can play multiple spots on the DL he can save a roster spot on gameday when you can only suit up 46 guys. Maybe Neal can do enough to make the team until we get Irving and D. Moore back.
 

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I agree. Plus, if Neal can play multiple spots on the DL he can save a roster spot on gameday when you can only suit up 46 guys. Maybe Neal can do enough to make the team until we get Irving and D. Moore back.

Or if he ends up on the Practice Squad, put 10 - 20 pounds on him this year and play him at LDE and both DT spots next year.
 

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also, subject got brought up a former player thinks cowboys are going to go more 4 wr sets, spread out defense, to which they have no linebackers, and that will enable zeke to throw to beasely, switzer, dez or terrance, and that defense will have to pick their poison, and if you try to cover them, then zeke will run over the defensive backs, and boom, boom touchdowns, because cbs safeties dont like to tackle a big back like zeke in open field.

Thanks Joe!

This is good stuff. The offense is Super Bowl ready.

I imagine the bolded part is a mistake or did you just break the news that Dallas will be running the Wildcat
 

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He is taking third-team reps now that Ivey is out with a back injury. I'm not sure who the third team center is but it might not be as impressive as you think.

Still impressive that he can play NT at that size no matter who he is going up against.
 

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This is what I always figured with Zeke. He may get suspended but doubt he misses any time this season due to the litigation that will follow.
 
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