Time for a New WR rotation

[ghst187]

hopefully this isn't classified as a call-out thread....I truly submit it for discussion ...
if you're a coach and forget the discrepancies between their salaries, how can you not play Ogletree more and Roy Williams less? heck even Hurd.
Here's the deal,
1) Roy drops, flat out drops, clutch passes in key situations, kinda like Folk misses fgs. Roy has done it nearly every game and it has cost us.
2) When given a chance, Ogletree has made some key plays. Heck of a catch last night.
3) Defenses do not game plan specifically to stop Roy. He frightens no one. He's not even a redzone threat which is kinda sad given his size. To defenses, he's just another guy that any starting CB can cover one on one without any problems. Roy cannot get open and is terribly slow in and out of cuts. Defenses are far more concerned about Austin. More often than not, Roy is a waste of a starting WR because one defender will remove him from the play most of the time.
4) Ogletree may not have the experience, but at least he can get in and out of his cuts and create some separation, which gives Tony a place to go with the ball. Oh and Ogletree seems to make the catch.
We might also consider rotating Austin to #1 and rotating Hurd and Ogletree at #2 with Crayton at #3 because I really don't believe that Hurd will drop as many passes as Roy seems to.
Does anyone truly think there will be a drop off in production if we replace Roy with a Hurd/Ogletree combo? I just can't think there would be. And Jerry would save a ton of money by ditching Roy for Hurd/Ogletree in the offseason.

 

[CowboyWay]

I'm a big fan of Ogletree. I think next year he becomes a starter. Roy Williams (if he's on the team), will see much less time.

 

[casmith07]

1. Austin
2. Ogletree/Williams
3. Crayton/Hurd

That's the rotation as I see it. The reason why Crayton and Hurd are 3, is because I think they do VERY well in the slot.

 

[jazzcat22]

hopefully this isn't classified as a call-out thread....I truly submit it for discussion ...
if you're a coach and forget the discrepancies between their salaries, how can you not play Ogletree more and Roy Williams less? heck even Hurd.
Here's the deal,
1) Roy drops, flat out drops, clutch passes in key situations, kinda like Folk misses fgs. Roy has done it nearly every game and it has cost us.
2) When given a chance, Ogletree has made some key plays. Heck of a catch last night.
3) Defenses do not game plan specifically to stop Roy. He frightens no one. He's not even a redzone threat which is kinda sad given his size. To defenses, he's just another guy that any starting CB can cover one on one without any problems. Roy cannot get open and is terribly slow in and out of cuts. Defenses are far more concerned about Austin. More often than not, Roy is a waste of a starting WR because one defender will remove him from the play most of the time.
4) Ogletree may not have the experience, but at least he can get in and out of his cuts and create some separation, which gives Tony a place to go with the ball. Oh and Ogletree seems to make the catch.
We might also consider rotating Austin to #1 and rotating Hurd and Ogletree at #2 with Crayton at #3 because I really don't believe that Hurd will drop as many passes as Roy seems to.
Does anyone truly think there will be a drop off in production if we replace Roy with a Hurd/Ogletree combo? I just can't think there would be. And Jerry would save a ton of money by ditching Roy for Hurd/Ogletree in the offseason.

They all end up being "call-out" threads. Seems to me all threads turn out to be....hate on RW11, Hate on Carpenter, Fire Wade, Fire Garrett, Fire Jerry.....

Which I can say, sometimes I agree, or more like question what are they doing, as in running for the Darwin Awards.

 

[ghst187]

next year i'd love to see
1) Austin
2 Dez Bryant
3) Ogletree/Hurd/Crayton

or maybe the Cards would trade us Boldin for RW and five draft picks

 

[STSINAZ]

hopefully this isn't classified as a call-out thread....I truly submit it for discussion ...
if you're a coach and forget the discrepancies between their salaries, how can you not play Ogletree more and Roy Williams less? heck even Hurd.
Here's the deal,
1) Roy drops, flat out drops, clutch passes in key situations, kinda like Folk misses fgs. Roy has done it nearly every game and it has cost us.
2) When given a chance, Ogletree has made some key plays. Heck of a catch last night.
3) Defenses do not game plan specifically to stop Roy. He frightens no one. He's not even a redzone threat which is kinda sad given his size. To defenses, he's just another guy that any starting CB can cover one on one without any problems. Roy cannot get open and is terribly slow in and out of cuts. Defenses are far more concerned about Austin. More often than not, Roy is a waste of a starting WR because one defender will remove him from the play most of the time.
4) Ogletree may not have the experience, but at least he can get in and out of his cuts and create some separation, which gives Tony a place to go with the ball. Oh and Ogletree seems to make the catch.
We might also consider rotating Austin to #1 and rotating Hurd and Ogletree at #2 with Crayton at #3 because I really don't believe that Hurd will drop as many passes as Roy seems to.
Does anyone truly think there will be a drop off in production if we replace Roy with a Hurd/Ogletree combo? I just can't think there would be. And Jerry would save a ton of money by ditching Roy for Hurd/Ogletree in the offseason.

roy sucks

 

[sacase]

People have a big misconception of what a #1 and #2 is. For the most part they don't mean anything other than for fans and annoucers. All a #1 reciever is, is a reciever who is the best on the team. In traditional formations you have a SE and a FL which are two vastly different positions who run different routes and have different requirements. For the most part they are not interchangeable. Then you have a Slot reciever, once again a different position that either of those two with different routes and requirements.

So with that being said, Miles is your #1 Reciever and has been since he had his 200 yard game. Roy is going to continue to start as he has shown improvement over the past couple weeks. Crayton has some of the best hands on the team and I would like to see him more in the slot, he has been making plays when given the chance. I think Ogletree has creeped up on Hurd and Hurd has still be performing well. So with that being said, for the most part I trust all of our recievers to catch the ball and make plays, we are very deep at reciever.

 

[Future]

That catch by Ogletree was REALLY impressive. It's the first time the guy has made a play to impress me...and he looked real fast out there, fluid and smooth. For the first time, I think he's going to be a real good player for us.

 

[links18]

Romo had Ogletree open for a big gain down the middle on one play, but he went to Austin on the sideline instead.

Hurd was in the game in the red zone late, was someone hurt or was someone benched?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He made one great catch all season in limited action of course and guys are ready to crown him a starter. The overreaction on this site is ridiculous. It usually comes after losses but its still coming after a win. I like what i've seen from the guy but we don't have to rush him in. Goodness. The passing game hasn't been the problem. When guys make comments like this i'm pretty sure it has fantasy football implications.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

hopefully this isn't classified as a call-out thread....I truly submit it for discussion ...
if you're a coach and forget the discrepancies between their salaries, how can you not play Ogletree more and Roy Williams less? heck even Hurd.
Here's the deal,
1) Roy drops, flat out drops, clutch passes in key situations, kinda like Folk misses fgs. Roy has done it nearly every game and it has cost us.
2) When given a chance, Ogletree has made some key plays. Heck of a catch last night.
3) Defenses do not game plan specifically to stop Roy. He frightens no one. He's not even a redzone threat which is kinda sad given his size. To defenses, he's just another guy that any starting CB can cover one on one without any problems. Roy cannot get open and is terribly slow in and out of cuts. Defenses are far more concerned about Austin. More often than not, Roy is a waste of a starting WR because one defender will remove him from the play most of the time.
4) Ogletree may not have the experience, but at least he can get in and out of his cuts and create some separation, which gives Tony a place to go with the ball. Oh and Ogletree seems to make the catch.
We might also consider rotating Austin to #1 and rotating Hurd and Ogletree at #2 with Crayton at #3 because I really don't believe that Hurd will drop as many passes as Roy seems to.
Does anyone truly think there will be a drop off in production if we replace Roy with a Hurd/Ogletree combo? I just can't think there would be. And Jerry would save a ton of money by ditching Roy for Hurd/Ogletree in the offseason.

I'm on the fence about it. RW is good some games, others not. What I find to be the worst part of his game is that he is timid and mentally week when it comes to taking a hit. Anytime a DB is near him and he's supposed to catch the ball he drops it because he is afraid of physical contact, it seems.

I, like others, am a big fan of Roy's and I think we keep him. But that doesn't mean he has to be #1or#2 on the depth chart. Personally, I like the rotation and I would like to see Ogletree get more time. Don't forget Crayton. He's a good player and I love having him on the Cowboys.

Roy hasn't lived up to the hype. I predicted he'd have 1,000 yards this season. That didn't happen, but that's how it goes sometimes. We should evaluate the RW situation at the end of the season and see if he helps us any if/when we get into the playoffs.

He still has time, but not much, especially with Ogletree playing like an all-pro in the limited time he gets on the field.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo had Ogletree open for a big gain down the middle on one play, but he went to Austin on the sideline instead.

Hurd was in the game in the red zone late, was someone hurt or was someone benched?

Hurd is always out there in the 4th quarter. I don't think there's some definitive rotation set. You can see anyone out there at any time. Hurd was out there in the Denver game and while everyone remembers the Bailey INT no one remembers the 50 yard catch and run Hurd had.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm on the fence about it. RW is good some games, others not. What I find to be the worst part of his game is that he is timid and mentally week when it comes to taking a hit. Anytime a DB is near him and he's supposed to catch the ball he drops it because he is afraid of physical contact, it seems.

I, like others, am a big fan of Roy's and I think we keep him. But that doesn't mean he has to be #1or#2 on the depth chart. Personally, I like the rotation and I would like to see Ogletree get more time. Don't forget Crayton. He's a good player and I love having him on the Cowboys.

Roy hasn't lived up to the hype. I predicted he'd have 1,000 yards this season. That didn't happen, but that's how it goes sometimes. We should evaluate the RW situation at the end of the season and see if he helps us any if/when we get into the playoffs.

He still has time, but not much, especially with Ogletree playing like an all-pro in the limited time he gets on the field.

I don't think its physical contact. He takes it. His 1st catch on the game he took contact and even got 10 extra yards fighting. He's been taking contact these past weeks. I just think he drops passes in tight coverage. I don't think its a mental thing. He doesn't get much seperation so he's always being tightly covered.

 

[Americas_Team]

Roy Williams has been a big disappointment. Nest year, Ogletree should be the starting WR next to Austin. Those two guys will make an explosive combination.

 

[rbr651]

I don't think its physical contact. He takes it. His 1st catch on the game he took contact and even got 10 extra yards fighting. He's been taking contact these past weeks. I just think he drops passes in tight coverage. I don't think its a mental thing. He doesn't get much seperation so he's always being tightly covered.

Agreed, RW is the biggest and strongest reciever on the team. He is getting better week by week. I think Ogletree is at best a slot guy, but then what do you do with Crayton? BTW the best TE in the NFL and the Cowboys real #1 reciever has had a few important drops in the past 2 weeks.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

Roy should be starter still.. I am not ready to crown Ogletree. While i want him to get more playing time its just absurd to sit here and say he should start. I would definitely like to see him in the slot.. I see him abusing guys in the slot.

 

[links18]

Hurd is always out there in the 4th quarter. I don't think there's some definitive rotation set. You can see anyone out there at any time. Hurd was out there in the Denver game and while everyone remembers the Bailey INT no one remembers the 50 yard catch and run Hurd had.

I don't remember Hurd in the game when it mattered since Seattle. Hurd was in the Denver game because Roy got hurt.

 

[Eskimo]

Hurd is always out there in the 4th quarter. I don't think there's some definitive rotation set. You can see anyone out there at any time. Hurd was out there in the Denver game and while everyone remembers the Bailey INT no one remembers the 50 yard catch and run Hurd had.

That was the game RW got hurt in so Hurd had to come in as the #3 WR.

 

[Eskimo]

Roy should be starter still.. I am not ready to crown Ogletree. While i want him to get more playing time its just absurd to sit here and say he should start. I would definitely like to see him in the slot.. I see him abusing guys in the slot.

You mean like that 4th quarter drop on the slant?

 

[Zman5]

We should just forget who are the starters and who is #1,#2,#3 non sense and just play all of them and spread the ball just like the Saints do.

I don't care who starts the game but I would like see more playing time for OTree, Choice, and Felix and little less from RW, and Barber.