Time has passed Bill Polian by

[RS12]

Former NFL GM Bill Polian ranked Oklahoma's Landry Jones as the top QB in the 2013 class.
Well then. Polian followed up his ranking by saying "I was at the game in Norman when he beat Tannehill head to head. This guy's a winner." We must have missed the snaps when Tannehill played defense. There's a chance Jones is a third- or fourth-round pick, but if out of rhythm and forced to work in confined space, Jones struggles immensely.
Source: Evan Silva on Twitter Apr 19 - 3:58 PM

 

[Questfor6]

I think some of these guys agents pay these mediots money to say this kind of crap. Landry Jones is a the definition of a system QB and prolly the worst QB I've ever seen at being able to feel pressure in the pocket, he'd be crushed in a week if he played here.

 

[Illini88228]

Actual talent evaluators often have some opinions that are way out of the mainstream. Some turn out to have been right, others not. Being right about the off the wall stuff is how they manage to accumulate good players at a higher rate than everyone else.

I'm much more suspicious of the guys who's every prediction mimics the pre-draft consensus. That's a much better indicator that the guy is mailing it in and is just rearranging one of the big draft guru's stuff.

 

[Idgit]

...but if out of rhythm and forced to work in confined space, Jones struggles immensely.
Source: Evan Silva on Twitter Apr 19 - 3:58 PM

As opposed to QBs who thrive in those situations.

 

[9darter]

Actual talent evaluators often have some opinions that are way out of the mainstream. Some turn out to have been right, others not. Being right about the off the wall stuff is how they manage to accumulate good players at a higher rate than everyone else.

I'm much more suspicious of the guys who's every prediction mimics the pre-draft consensus. That's a much better indicator that the guy is mailing it in and is just rearranging one of the big draft guru's stuff.

Quality post.

 

[Gaede]

I'm much more suspicious of the guys who's every prediction mimics the pre-draft consensus. That's a much better indicator that the guy is mailing it in and is just rearranging one of the big draft guru's stuff.

Great post.

 

[DFWJC]

Actual talent evaluators often have some opinions that are way out of the mainstream. Some turn out to have been right, others not. Being right about the off the wall stuff is how they manage to accumulate good players at a higher rate than everyone else.

I'm much more suspicious of the guys who's every prediction mimics the pre-draft consensus. That's a much better indicator that the guy is mailing it in and is just rearranging one of the big draft guru's stuff.

You're right.
If all the teams drafted basically how the concensous says to, it would be awfully tough to sperate from the 32 team pack.

It's one reason why its entertaining to listen to fans blast draft pick during the draft just becasue the didn't fit the mocks they've been seeing. They (and I do it too) say it's a "bad pick" or "you could have got him later" when they really don't know for sure if another team had their eye on that player or not.

If everyone was so smart, how did Tom Brady go in the 6th round, for example? GMs, scouts, fans....all wrong for at least 5 rounds.

BTW, can't say I agree at all with Polian on Jones as best QB. But that's just one player.

 

[reddyuta]

i wouldnt take landry jones even as a UDFA.

 

[Manster54]

I would take Bill polian as our gm without hesitation.

 

[Risen Star]

i wouldnt take landry jones even as a UDFA.

That's insane. The guy has some really good tools to work with. He's a 3rd-4th round pick who could sneak into the 2nd round with the typical QB push.

 

[Risen Star]

I would take Bill polian as our gm without hesitation.

So would I. I'll take the guy who some say may be losing it over the guy who never had it to begin with.

 

[reddyuta]

That's insane. The guy has some really good tools to work with. He's a 3rd-4th round pick who could sneak into the 2nd round with the typical QB push.

he is scared of his own shadow,i would rather try my luck with tyler bray if we have to draft a QB.

 

[Gaede]

Tyler bray is a loser

 

[joseephuss]

Bill Polian isn't known for his QB expertise.

Jim Kelly was drafted by the Bills before Polian became GM, so he didn't have to search for a QB during his time there.

At Carolina he drafted Kerry Collins 5th overall. He played a long time and accumulated a lot of numbers, but was mostly mediocre.

While at Indy it was a no brainer to draft Peyton Manning. He basically didn't have a choice but to draft him.

So Kelly and Manning landed in his lap and the one time he truly had to go find a QB he made a poor pick. Looks like time hasn't passed Polian by when it comes to QBs because he never had the expertise in the first place.

 

[Risen Star]

Bill Polian isn't known for his QB expertise.

Jim Kelly was drafted by the Bills before Polian became GM, so he didn't have to search for a QB during his time there.

At Carolina he drafted Kerry Collins 5th overall. He played a long time and accumulated a lot of numbers, but was mostly mediocre.

While at Indy it was a no brainer to draft Peyton Manning. He basically didn't have a choice but to draft him.

So Kelly and Manning landed in his lap and the one time he truly had to go find a QB he made a poor pick. Looks like time hasn't passed Polian by when it comes to QBs because he never had the expertise in the first place.

It's easy to say Peyton Manning was a no brainer now. The truth is half the league thought Leaf was the better prospect at the time.

Collins was a good pick.

 

[CATCH17]

I actually think Landry Jones has a lot of talent but something is just missing.

 

[Idgit]

It's easy to say Peyton Manning was a no brainer now. The truth is half the league thought Leaf was the better prospect at the time.

Collins was a good pick.

I liked Leaf better. Oops.

In my defense, I didn't know he was kinda nuts.

 

[joseephuss]

It's easy to say Peyton Manning was a no brainer now. The truth is half the league thought Leaf was the better prospect at the time.

Collins was a good pick.

Half the league did not think Leaf was the better prospect. That is a myth. While there were a few in Leaf's corner, the vast majority thought Manning was the better choice.

Collins was a terrible pick. He didn't even last a full 4 seasons in Carolina and has been average at best during his career. That isn't what you want out of a QB when you draft them #5 overall and doesn't come close to to being considered a good pick.

 

[joseephuss]

I liked Leaf better. Oops.

In my defense, I didn't know he was kinda nuts.

You didn't know, but scouts and GMs are paid to know those kinds of things.

 

[BulletBob]

Bill Polian isn't known for his QB expertise.

Jim Kelly was drafted by the Bills before Polian became GM, so he didn't have to search for a QB during his time there.

At Carolina he drafted Kerry Collins 5th overall. He played a long time and accumulated a lot of numbers, but was mostly mediocre.

While at Indy it was a no brainer to draft Peyton Manning. He basically didn't have a choice but to draft him.

So Kelly and Manning landed in his lap and the one time he truly had to go find a QB he made a poor pick. Looks like time hasn't passed Polian by when it comes to QBs because he never had the expertise in the first place.

Well then, time has shaded your memory a bit. The Manning decision wasn't a no-brainer at all. In fact., at the time there was a debate raging over who was the better QB prospect: Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf. With perfect 20/20 hindsight it may seem like a no-brainer, but at the time, in the proper context, it was probably one of the most brilliant and momentous moves ever made by a GM.