Todd McShay ESPN Mock can someone post the 1st Round

MrPhil said:
I have been told that the Falcons may try to trade up for Fields; I guess he is from Atlanta.
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Yeah, He and Lawrence are both from north Georgia..
Home grown talent for the Falcons!
 
What I have noticed through the years Todd McShay & Mel Kiper promote the Big 10 schools. ESPN use to have Big 10 games with ABC & ESPN vs CBS which had best SEC games. I think they are paid off to push and promote those players. A couple of years ago Kiper was questioned why he kept pushing a certain player come to find the player's agent was also Kiper's agent. Inside favor McShay I remember kept ranting saying this certain Indiana WR was climbing the boards. Denver bit for him Courtney Something. Stunk up the league. Never better than a 3 or 4th WR.
 
timb2 said:
What I have noticed through the years Todd McShay & Mel Kiper promote the Big 10 schools. ESPN use to have Big 10 games with ABC & ESPN vs CBS which had best SEC games. I think they are paid off to push and promote those players. A couple of years ago Kiper was questioned why he kept pushing a certain player come to find the player's agent was also Kiper's agent. Inside favor McShay I remember kept ranting saying this certain Indiana WR was climbing the boards. Denver bit for him Courtney Something. Stunk up the league. Never better than a 3 or 4th WR.
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Teams dont listen to either of them, only fans do. Go look at their December mocks and big boards last year and compare it to the truth. You can even look at then after the combine and they still are way off but fans will listen to them. If they call a guy a reach a bunch on here will
 
SeanLee50 said:
1. ⁠JAX - Trevor Lawrence, QB (Clemson)
2. ⁠NYJ - Penei Sewell, OL (Oregon)
3. ⁠MIA - DeVonta Smith, WR (Alabama)
4. ⁠ATL - Zach Wilson, QB (BYU)
5. ⁠CIN - Rashawn Slater, OL (Northwestern)
6. ⁠PHI - Micah Parsons, LB (Penn State)
7. ⁠DET - Ja'Marr Chase, WR (LSU)
8. ⁠CAR - Kyle Pitts, TE (Florida)
9. ⁠DEN - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB (Notre Dame)
10. ⁠DAL - Patrick Surtain II, CB (Alabama)
11. ⁠NYG - Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB (Miami)
12. ⁠SF - Caleb Farley, CB (Virginia Tech)
13. ⁠LAC - Shaun Wade, CB (Ohio State)
14. ⁠MIN - Christian Darrisaw, OT (Virginia Tech)
15. ⁠NE - Justin Fields, QB (Ohio State)
16. ⁠ARI - Travis Etienne, RB (Clemson)
17. ⁠LVR - Jaylen Waddle, WR (Alabama)
18. ⁠MIA - Rashod Bateman, WR (Minnesota)
19. ⁠WFT - Trey Lance, QB (North Dakota State)
20. ⁠CHI - Elijah Moore, WR (Ole Miss)
21. ⁠IND - Mac Jones, QB (Alabama)
22. ⁠JAX - Daviyon Nixon, DT (Iowa)
23. ⁠CLE - Zaven Collins, LB (Tulsa)
24. ⁠TEN - Joseph Ossai, LB (Texas)
25. ⁠NYJ - Chris Olave, WR (Ohio State)
26. ⁠BAL - Kwity Paye, DE (Michigan)
27. ⁠TB - Christian Barmore, DT (Alabama)
28. ⁠PIT - Najee Harris, RB (Alabama)
29. ⁠BUF - Wyatt Davis, OL (Ohio State)
30. ⁠NO - Nick Bolton, LB (Missouri)
31. ⁠GB - Terrace Marshall Jr., WR (LSU)
32. ⁠KC - Derion Kendrick, CB (Clemson)
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Would we actually take Surtain over Farley ?
 
I like the fact that Pitts is off the board when we're up. I know many are against us taking this TE beast, but I would feel bad passing on such a playmaker. If he is off the board, I won't have to worry about it.
 
I said I was ok with drafting Slater at 10 if he were there. A couple know it alls assured me that was way too early, he wasnt that good. Todd disagrees.
 
RS12 said:
I said I was ok with drafting Slater at 10 if he were there. A couple know it alls assured me that was way too early, he wasnt that good. Todd disagrees.
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Todd is wrong more than half of this board lol
 
timb2 said:
What I have noticed through the years Todd McShay & Mel Kiper promote the Big 10 schools. ESPN use to have Big 10 games with ABC & ESPN vs CBS which had best SEC games. I think they are paid off to push and promote those players. A couple of years ago Kiper was questioned why he kept pushing a certain player come to find the player's agent was also Kiper's agent. Inside favor McShay I remember kept ranting saying this certain Indiana WR was climbing the boards. Denver bit for him Courtney Something. Stunk up the league. Never better than a 3 or 4th WR.
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The wide receiver was Corey Lattimer from Indiana University both Kiper and McShay were pumping him up. You are so right about them fighting for there guys. Kiper was on television last week fighting for Dornald to stay with the Jets and acting like he knew Josh Allen/Lamar Jackson we’re going to be good quarterbacks. I give a poster like you Tim2 more credit because you don’t have their connections. Kiper and McShay go by the company line and then after the combine their rankings change dramatically.
 
baltcowboy said:
The wide receiver was Corey Lattimer from Indiana University both Kiper and McShay were pumping him up. You are so right about them fighting for there guys. Kiper was on television last week fighting for Dornald to stay with the Jets and acting like he knew Josh Allen/Lamar Jackson we’re going to be good quarterbacks. I give a poster like you Tim2 more credit because you don’t have their connections. Kiper and McShay go by the company line and then after the combine their rankings change dramatically.
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Watch what Kiper will do . He will talk all about this guy and all about that guy. Then about 3 weeks out Kiper goes Dark and silent. No mocks no boards. Then the night or maybe even the NFL Draft morning before the Draft he comes out with his last Mock Draft. What he does that he is not telling us, is they find all their inside sources a lowly scout, assistant coach, football agents, towel boy. Thet most likely get some money on the side and Kiper gets the inside info who the team really has talked too and worked out privately. So he looks like a Draft Guru.....Kiper if you can find him on his first couple of years 1984 NFL Draft on ESPN. When he talked it just sounded like Doublespeak Jargon..Confusing people what he was saying. Now hard to find but you can tell it looks like nonsense...He was saying stuff like" The guy has a nice lean smooth back pedal, turn to swivel in the hips in drops. Knows how to dip with leverage high points to the second level". It's like HUH?? LOL.
 
Thrill99 said:
I like the fact that Pitts is off the board when we're up. I know many are against us taking this TE beast, but I would feel bad passing on such a playmaker. If he is off the board, I won't have to worry about it.
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I feel the same way and i'd bet the Cowboys do too.

I hope Pitts is gone when we pick haha.

He's going to be too good to pass up compared to whats left on the board.
 
Some other stuff that Kiper does. He will have his next eligible to be drafted his Big Board. Say one guy who Kiper rated a 1st round pick dropping into the 3rd. Kiper will start BARKING. Why no one has picked that guy. Basically drawing attention hoping this guy gets picked soon......Until that Colts GM said " Who the h@ll is Mel Kiper"?. Kiper was very rude kind of like a Don Rickles comedian. Insulting GMs of teams usually beating up on the Jets.
 
SeanLee50 said:
Surtain to me is more of a sure thing. Lower ceiling, but less likely to bust
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Does anybody know the Comp Picks supposedly we are getting has these already been awarded or we just assuming ?
 
garyv said:
Does anybody know the Comp Picks supposedly we are getting has these already been awarded or we just assuming ?
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Assuming by charts 3,4,5,6

3- Byron Jones
4- Robert Quinn
5- Randall Cobb
6- Jeff Heath

All other players we lossed ( Jason Witten Maliek Collins, Xavier Sua- Fila,Kerry Hyder),evened out when we signed( Gerald McCoy,Blake Bell,Haha Clinton Dix,Dontari Poe,Marcus Canady)
 
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timb2 said:
Assuming by charts 3,4,5,6

3- Byron Jones
4- Robert Quinn
5- Randall Cobb
6- Jeff Heath

All other players we lossed ( Jason Witten Maliek Collins, Xavier Sua- Fila,Kerry Hyder),evened out when we signed( Gerald McCoy,Blake Bell,Haha Clinton Dix,Dontari Poe,Marcus Canady)
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How do you base this because Quinn had 2 sacks all year (this season)
 
SeanLee50 said:
1. ⁠JAX - Trevor Lawrence, QB (Clemson)
2. ⁠NYJ - Penei Sewell, OL (Oregon)
3. ⁠MIA - DeVonta Smith, WR (Alabama)
4. ⁠ATL - Zach Wilson, QB (BYU)
5. ⁠CIN - Rashawn Slater, OL (Northwestern)
6. ⁠PHI - Micah Parsons, LB (Penn State)
7. ⁠DET - Ja'Marr Chase, WR (LSU)
8. ⁠CAR - Kyle Pitts, TE (Florida)
9. ⁠DEN - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB (Notre Dame)
10. ⁠DAL - Patrick Surtain II, CB (Alabama)
11. ⁠NYG - Gregory Rousseau, DE/OLB (Miami)
12. ⁠SF - Caleb Farley, CB (Virginia Tech)
13. ⁠LAC - Shaun Wade, CB (Ohio State)
14. ⁠MIN - Christian Darrisaw, OT (Virginia Tech)
15. ⁠NE - Justin Fields, QB (Ohio State)
16. ⁠ARI - Travis Etienne, RB (Clemson)
17. ⁠LVR - Jaylen Waddle, WR (Alabama)
18. ⁠MIA - Rashod Bateman, WR (Minnesota)
19. ⁠WFT - Trey Lance, QB (North Dakota State)
20. ⁠CHI - Elijah Moore, WR (Ole Miss)
21. ⁠IND - Mac Jones, QB (Alabama)
22. ⁠JAX - Daviyon Nixon, DT (Iowa)
23. ⁠CLE - Zaven Collins, LB (Tulsa)
24. ⁠TEN - Joseph Ossai, LB (Texas)
25. ⁠NYJ - Chris Olave, WR (Ohio State)
26. ⁠BAL - Kwity Paye, DE (Michigan)
27. ⁠TB - Christian Barmore, DT (Alabama)
28. ⁠PIT - Najee Harris, RB (Alabama)
29. ⁠BUF - Wyatt Davis, OL (Ohio State)
30. ⁠NO - Nick Bolton, LB (Missouri)
31. ⁠GB - Terrace Marshall Jr., WR (LSU)
32. ⁠KC - Derion Kendrick, CB (Clemson)
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KingintheNorth will have to be put on suicide watch if Farley is there and we take Surtain.
 
Fields at 15 seems too low. Owusu-Koramoah seems too high at 9.
 
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