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it should be obvious to anyone that Jerry isn't going to let Ireland go, so after getting re-buffed for Ireland, Parcells goes after our regional, or head scout, whatever his position is, Ciskowski

heck, that's what we basically did getting Ireland in here, wasn't he like the head-scout for Kansas City before Jerry and Lace brought him over here?

thoughts?
 

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What's up Bob?

I haven't been paying that close attention this week... how is it obvious that Jerry won't let Ireland go? Has he said something specific?

Thanks Bro.

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AsthmaField;1862360 said:
What's up Bob?

I haven't been paying that close attention this week... how is it obvious that Jerry won't let Ireland go? Has he said something specific?

Thanks Bro.

:star:

Jerry won't let Ireland go

that's all you need to know

lalalala


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best be looking for your brother
 

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Bob Sacamano;1862361 said:
Jerry won't let Ireland go

that's all you need to know

lalalala


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best be looking for your brother


:laugh2:

And I hope you're right about Ireland. I was kinda hoping you had more than your gut to go on. :p:
 

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AsthmaField;1862363 said:
:laugh2:

And I hope you're right about Ireland. I was kinda hoping you had more than your gut to go on. :p:

although as washboard as it is, that's all you need:D
 

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Bob Sacamano;1862347 said:
it should be obvious to anyone that Jerry isn't going to let Ireland go, so after getting re-buffed for Ireland, Parcells goes after our regional, or head scout, whatever his position is, Ciskowski

heck, that's what we basically did getting Ireland in here, wasn't he like the head-scout for Kansas City before Jerry and Lace brought him over here?

thoughts?

Bob, not that I don't want to believe your six-pack abs, but is it really just your opinion or do you have a source for the statement?

I only ask, because I, like you, really want Ireland to stay, but I'm really worried about Parcells' meddling.

If you have some kind of inside info, I'd be more relaxed, but if your washboard is the source, then I so hope your gut is right!
 

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I'd say his washboard is at least as reliable as the Magic 8 ball. ;)
 

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Cowboyz88;1862398 said:
Bob, not that I don't want to believe your six-pack abs, but is it really just your opinion or do you have a source for the statement?

I only ask, because I, like you, really want Ireland to stay, but I'm really worried about Parcells' meddling.

If you have some kind of inside info, I'd be more relaxed, but if your washboard is the source, then I so hope your gut is right!

I used to have six-pack abs but over time I have upgraded to the mini-keg uni-ab. :D

Hot Damn! The old post count is really sizzling now. :p:
 

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Tom Ciskowski is the assitant director of college scouting.

He has been a scout for the cowboys since 1992. He came aboard because of his ties to butch davis and tony wise.

Ciskowski also coached in college for years.

I dont know if he is the next Jeff Ireland, but he is the head of our college scouting and seems to be very good at it.

I dont think ireland leaving would result in a promotion just because. I dont think parcells would have any interest in him either. He has been a part of the cowboys nearly as long as The Jones's
 

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theebs;1862527 said:
Tom Ciskowski is the assitant director of college scouting.

He has been a scout for the cowboys since 1992. He came aboard because of his ties to butch davis and tony wise.

Ciskowski also coached in college for years.

I dont know if he is the next Jeff Ireland, but he is the head of our college scouting and seems to be very good at it.

I dont think ireland leaving would result in a promotion just because. I dont think parcells would have any interest in him either. He has been a part of the cowboys nearly as long as The Jones's

I never heard of this guy, is he any good?

Please tell me Lacewell didnt pick him, please. If Tuna steals Ireland and we are left with Lacewell and a bunch of no name scouts...........I kinda worried:mad:
 

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Bob Sacamano;1862430 said:
book it!

no, I have no inside information

yes, I'm dead sexy *rubs nipple*

:blech: That's just gross.............
 

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notherbob;1862427 said:
I used to have six-pack abs but over time I have upgraded to the mini-keg uni-ab. :D

Hot Damn! The old post count is really sizzling now. :p:


BWAHAHAHA:lmao2:
 

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Bob Sacamano;1862365 said:
although as washboard as it is, that's all you need:D


Are you sure that's "washboard abs" and not "washtub ab"?

And I trust your judgement on this, Bob. I'm writing it down in my daytimer, I'm so sure you're right.

I'm relieved Ireland is staying. :D
 

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Ireland was not brought to the Cowboys by Lacewell and Jerry. Ireland came to the Cowboys in 04, or 05. Bryan Broaddus was with the Cowboys in 03 when Parcells got here.
 

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ciskowski has been here since 92, he was a coach at miami with butch davis and he also coached with tony wise.

He has been here a long time.
 

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BHendri5;1862651 said:
Ireland was not brought to the Cowboys by Lacewell and Jerry. Ireland came to the Cowboys in 04, or 05. Bryan Broaddus was with the Cowboys in 03 when Parcells got here.


Jeff Ireland résumé

NFL experience: National scout for Cowboys, 2001-05; area scout for Chiefs, 1997-2000; National Football Scouting Combine, 1994-96.

Coaching: North Texas special teams coach, 1991-92.

College: Baylor kicker, 1988-91; Bears all-time leader in field goals made; had 58-yarder against Rice in 1991.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87303&page=2

Cowboys name new chief scout

By Clarence E. Hill Jr.

Star-Telegram Staff Writer


IRVING - As Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said, Thursday's official announcement of Jeff Ireland being appointed vice president of college and pro scouting was "the worst kept secret in the organization."

Even though the Cowboys never admitted as much, sources long confirmed that Ireland moved into former scouting director Larry Lacewell's office shortly after he retired in January and began assuming his duties.

With the announcement, Jones made "something official that was long overdue."

The two-month wait did not temper Ireland's excitement over a job that he was seemingly born to do.

His grandfather Jim Parmer, a longtime scout with the Chicago Bears, had him looking at film at the age of 12. His stepfather, E.J. Holub, played linebacker and center for the Kansas City Chiefs and is a member of the Chiefs Hall of Fame.

"For obvious reasons, it's a great opportunity for me," said Ireland, 35, speaking publicly for the first time as the Cowboys' chief scout.

"My background is scouting. The acquisition of football players is what I know. I have been waiting for this opportunity since I was 12 years old as a ball boy with Chicago Bears. I've got a football family. It's been in my life since I was 8. What I know is football."

Ireland, a native of Abilene and a kicker at Baylor from 1988 to '91, started his career in scouting with the National Football Scouting Combine in 1994. He spent three years there, then four as an area scout with his stepfather's Chiefs before joining the Cowboys as a national scout in 2001.

He made an immediate impression on Lacewell, who told Jones early on that Ireland had a good "combination of knowledge and evaluation skills" and was "someone who could someday run this whole show in the future."

Jones also became a fan of Ireland's work.

"It's very important to me and this organization that we select someone that we could look to work with for a long time," Jones said. "His skill in evaluating football players is beyond any question as far as I'm concerned."

Ireland will report directly to Jones. However, his ability to work with coach Bill Parcells was most crucial to his appointment as Cowboys chief scout.

It's no secret that Parcells' overwhelming influence in the organization since his arrival in 2003 played a part in Lacewell's departure. Lacewell acknowledged that his role was significantly reduced the past two years.

While Parcells will still have the strongest say in the draft room, Ireland has undoubtedly gained his respect.

"Bill has gotten acquainted with Jeff over the last couple of years and really endorsed [ him] and was excited about working with Jeff," Jones said. "I've had the opportunity to be around Jeff a little more than Bill had, but that really influenced that timing more than anything. This is an opportunity for the Cowboys as well as Jeff. It's a good situation."


Parmer was clearly Ireland's biggest scouting influence, helping get him a job as ball boy in training camp for the Bears for six years. During that time, grandfather made grandson sit in the film room and watch tape.

"That kept [me] off the streets, and it was how I got started in scouting," Ireland said.

Also making an impact on his career were Lacewell, who was "not one of those guys who sat back in his office and closed the door;" former Bears coach Mike Ditka; New York Jets general manager Terry Bradway and San Diego Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer when they were with the Chiefs; and Duke Babb of National Football Scouting.

Ireland said he has the chance to learn from Parcells and maybe teach Parcells a little of what he knows.

"To sit around there talking football and debating the way we debate in the war room is a great experience," Ireland said. "I think Bill learns from me just like I learn from Bill. We toss things around and sometimes it might be more than tossing. The opportunity to get the information on the table is a key working for Bill and for Jerry."

As far as his philosophy in shaping the Cowboys' roster is concerned, Ireland said he wants smart football players, who have character on and off the field.

"First of all is character," Ireland said. "I want guys good in the locker room. I want leaders. I want guys smart enough to not just handle the football side of it, but the pressures of being a professional athlete. That falls in line with what Jerry is looking for and what Bill is looking for."

Road plans

With the Cowboys having back-to-back road games against San Francisco and Oakland, Sept. 25 and Oct. 2, Jones said the team is considering staying in California between games. "We have batted it around," Jones said. "Bill had some success doing that, I think when he was with the [New York] Giants. We got a set of facilities, out in California with training camp."

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Jeff Ireland résumé

NFL experience: National scout for Cowboys, 2001-05; area scout for Chiefs, 1997-2000; National Football Scouting Combine, 1994-96.

Coaching: North Texas special teams coach, 1991-92.

College: Baylor kicker, 1988-91; Bears all-time leader in field goals made; had 58-yarder against Rice in 1991.
 
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