Tomsula our new DL Coach good article

[garyv]

Tomsula our new DL Coach good article

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/what-tomsula-another-ball-guy-adds-to-mccarthys-cowboys-staff


What Tomsula - Another 'Ball Guy' - Adds to McCarthy's Cowboys Staff

Mike FisherJan 9, 2020

FRISCO - New Dallas Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy is a Pittsburgh guy, a "ball guy'' in the parlance, and so it stands to reason that the staff he's assembling here inside The Star might also feature some other "ball guys'' and maybe even a Pittsburgh guy.


Welcome to Dallas, Jim Tomsula.

McCarthy, the ninth head coach in Cowboys history as he takes over for Jason Garrett, has already tabbed Mike Nolan as his defensive coordinator; McCarthy and Nolan go way back, with Niners ties.

Tomsula is also a Niners guy, a former head coach in San Francisco who has mostly built his reputation as a defensive line coach, the role he will fill in Dallas.


There is obviously an ongoing changing of the guard on the Dallas defensive staff, with coordinator Rod Marinelli and top aide Kris Richard no longer under contract.

Tomsula, 51, was the Niners head coach in 2015 after serving as their D-line coach from 2007-14. Tomsula has spent the past three seasons as Washington’s D-line coach.

So is he just a "tough guy''? Our man John Owning of our Best Coast Boys podcast (and the Dallas Morning News) notes that maybe Tomsula is a bit more complex than that ...


In Dallas, McCarthy, Nolan, Tomsula and the front office will have to reload when it comes to the defensive line. End DeMarcus Lawrence remains the centerpiece, but others like Robert Quinn, Michael Bennett and Maliek Collins are scheduled to become free agents. Dallas could get help from a healthy return from injury (and maybe a contract reduction) from Tyrone Crawford and surely needs more from second-round defensive tackle Trysten Hill, who was not a factor in his rookie season with the Cowboys.

 

[garyv]

In posting this here is another interesting article so check it out

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/4...ers-defensive-schemes-awful-under-jim-tomsula

Richard Sherman calls 49ers' defensive schemes 'awful' under Jim Tomsula
By Alex Didion December 17, 2019 2:44 PM
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Richard Sherman surprised many around the NFL in 2018 when he elected to join the 49ers in free agency, a team he had been archrivals with for his entire career as a member of the Seattle Seahawks.

The four-time Pro Bowl cornerback was asked to take a discount to return to Seattle after battling injury, and Sherman elected instead to bet on himself.

In a recent interview with Bleacher Report, Sherman opened up about the thought process that went into picking San Francisco as his free-agent destination. From Tyler Dunne:

He knew the scheme. Coordinator Robert Saleh was a quality control coach in Seattle. And Sherman believed in the personnel—could tell there was talent when he watched film from the previous few years, even though the defense operated in "awful schemes."

Sherman, in particular, was not a fan of the defense during the very forgettable (and brief) Jim Tomsula era.

"I don’t know what the f--k they were running when [Jim] Tomsula was there," Sherman said.

Since Sherman joined the 49ers secondary, San Francisco has gone from being in the bottom 10 in points allowed and total yardage allowed, to currently being fifth in points allowed and second in total yards.

[RELATED: Kwon has 'outside chance' of 49ers return, Shanahan says]

While the Stanford product can’t take all of the credit for San Francisco’s defensive turnaround, having an All-Pro caliber player as your No. 1 cornerback certainly hasn’t hurt.

Sherman missed the 49ers’ Week 15 loss against Atlanta, and hopes to return to the lineup before Saturday’s showdown with the Los Angeles Rams at Levi’s Stadium.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Tomsula will be banging the table for Kinlaw

 

[Staubacher]

Not sure Ball Guy should be hanging around Hot Boyz

 

[Oneiros]

Tomsula will be banging the table for Kinlaw

Do you think he'd even last until 17? Some of the more recent mock drafts seem to have him slotted into the 8-12 range now.

 

[conner01]

Tomsula will be banging the table for Kinlaw

If he’s still there at 17 it’s a no brained though I’m skeptical he will be
Biggest thing he can do is get hills head and heart right
That could be huge if he can just be a solid rotational guy

 

[jterrell]

Don't care what Tomsula did in other places designing schemes as he is a DL coach only here and he's had major success there.
We've seen him in charge of a very good Commanders DL the last few seasons.

Sweat, Matt Ioannidis, Allen, Payne....

 

[jterrell]

Do you think he'd even last until 17? Some of the more recent mock drafts seem to have him slotted into the 8-12 range now.

90% of Cowboys nation is mocking him to us at 17 which feels exactly like Aaron Donald coming out.

We are either likely to see him go well before us, or see us pass him for some other position than freak out non-stop until whomever they draft plays better or both guys eventually die of old age.

 

[Stash]

The more I look into Tomsula, the more I see "3-4 defense".

 

[DeaconMoss]

Raise your hand if you know where Catawba College is.

 

[jterrell]

The more I look into Tomsula, the more I see "3-4 defense".

He and Nolan were both 3-4 guys but have been in pure 4-3 the past few seasons.
The 3-4 defenses they ran got them fired so not sure they are committed to that or any scheme.
I am certainly hoping the will be multiple.
Some team simply struggle versus 3-4 and other teams can beat it like a mule.

 

[Stash]

He and Nolan were both 3-4 guys but have been in pure 4-3 the past few seasons.
The 3-4 defenses they ran got them fired so not sure they are committed to that or any scheme.
I am certainly hoping the will be multiple.
Some team simply struggle versus 3-4 and other teams can beat it like a mule.

I see where Nolan has coached in the 4-3 recently, but not from Tomsula. I wonder what's up with that?

 

[NeonNinja]

In posting this here is another interesting article so check it out

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/4...ers-defensive-schemes-awful-under-jim-tomsula

Richard Sherman calls 49ers' defensive schemes 'awful' under Jim Tomsula
By Alex Didion December 17, 2019 2:44 PM
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Richard Sherman surprised many around the NFL in 2018 when he elected to join the 49ers in free agency, a team he had been archrivals with for his entire career as a member of the Seattle Seahawks.

The four-time Pro Bowl cornerback was asked to take a discount to return to Seattle after battling injury, and Sherman elected instead to bet on himself.

In a recent interview with Bleacher Report, Sherman opened up about the thought process that went into picking San Francisco as his free-agent destination. From Tyler Dunne:

He knew the scheme. Coordinator Robert Saleh was a quality control coach in Seattle. And Sherman believed in the personnel—could tell there was talent when he watched film from the previous few years, even though the defense operated in "awful schemes."

Sherman, in particular, was not a fan of the defense during the very forgettable (and brief) Jim Tomsula era.

"I don’t know what the f--k they were running when [Jim] Tomsula was there," Sherman said.

Since Sherman joined the 49ers secondary, San Francisco has gone from being in the bottom 10 in points allowed and total yardage allowed, to currently being fifth in points allowed and second in total yards.

[RELATED: Kwon has 'outside chance' of 49ers return, Shanahan says]

While the Stanford product can’t take all of the credit for San Francisco’s defensive turnaround, having an All-Pro caliber player as your No. 1 cornerback certainly hasn’t hurt.

Sherman missed the 49ers’ Week 15 loss against Atlanta, and hopes to return to the lineup before Saturday’s showdown with the Los Angeles Rams at Levi’s Stadium.

Article is irrelevant because he’s a DL coach here (what he’s really good at).

 

[jterrell]

I see where Nolan has coached in the 4-3 recently, but not from Tomsula. I wonder what's up with that?

You are totally right there.
The 4-3 switch Tomsula instituted in San Fran got backed out of when Bowman and Armstrong got hurt at inside linebacker.
So he may have installed in but only for Training Camp and some of pre-season.
O'Niel below is the DC under Tomsula in SF in 2015.

“We play 4-3 spacing every time we go into our sub-packages,” O’Neil said. “It’s more 3-4 spacing in our base packages. So if you really broke it down, we’re probably 50-50 3-4 versus 4-3 spacing.”


O’Neil later explained to CSNBayArea.com that the team’s outside linebackers, including starters Ahmad Brooks and Aaron Lynch, are trained to be more similar to defensive ends than inside linebackers in the team's base defense.

Therefore, if the 49ers shifted to a 4-3, the more seamless move would be for Brooks and Lynch to become defensive ends.

“We can get some 4-3 spacing stuff with our outside 'backers, but those guys are better on the line of scrimmage nose to nose on tight ends and doing why they were drafted or brought here,” O’Neil said.

“You’re putting three inside 'backers on the field. So you would actually, if you wanted to play 4-3, you would need another inside 'backer.”

 

[GORICO]

If he’s still there at 17 it’s a no brained though I’m skeptical he will be
Biggest thing he can do is get hills head and heart right
That could be huge if he can just be a solid rotational guy

conner----do you know what the deal is with Trysten Hill?...what held him back?

 

[conner01]

conner----do you know what the deal is with Trysten Hill?...what held him back?

Seem like taco syndrome
He had some issues in college but it appears he’s not motivated to put in the work
Some of these guys are so athletic they can’t coast thru without refining there game
But once you get the the NFL that won’t work
He needs a heart and attitude adjustment
And we need him

 

[GORICO]

Seem like taco syndrome
He had some issues in college but it appears he’s not motivated to put in the work
Some of these guys are so athletic they can’t coast thru without refining there game
But once you get the the NFL that won’t work
He needs a heart and attitude adjustment
And we need him

do we have examples of players acting immature and or lazy and then "turning it on"?...seems to me i remember someone but just cant put my finger on it

 

[conner01]

do we have examples of players acting immature and or lazy and then "turning it on"?...seems to me i remember someone but just cant put my finger on it

Taco played solid this year once he got to
Miami
Some never do
But hopefully he’s smart enough to know he has a clean slate and an opportunity to show he belongs. He’s also got millions in his future if he just becomes decent

 

[AbeBeta]

In posting this here is another interesting article so check it out

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/4...ers-defensive-schemes-awful-under-jim-tomsula

Richard Sherman calls 49ers' defensive schemes 'awful' under Jim Tomsula
By Alex Didion December 17, 2019 2:44 PM
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Richard Sherman surprised many around the NFL in 2018 when he elected to join the 49ers in free agency, a team he had been archrivals with for his entire career as a member of the Seattle Seahawks.

The four-time Pro Bowl cornerback was asked to take a discount to return to Seattle after battling injury, and Sherman elected instead to bet on himself.

In a recent interview with Bleacher Report, Sherman opened up about the thought process that went into picking San Francisco as his free-agent destination. From Tyler Dunne:

He knew the scheme. Coordinator Robert Saleh was a quality control coach in Seattle. And Sherman believed in the personnel—could tell there was talent when he watched film from the previous few years, even though the defense operated in "awful schemes."

Sherman, in particular, was not a fan of the defense during the very forgettable (and brief) Jim Tomsula era.

"I don’t know what the f--k they were running when [Jim] Tomsula was there," Sherman said.

Since Sherman joined the 49ers secondary, San Francisco has gone from being in the bottom 10 in points allowed and total yardage allowed, to currently being fifth in points allowed and second in total yards.

[RELATED: Kwon has 'outside chance' of 49ers return, Shanahan says]

While the Stanford product can’t take all of the credit for San Francisco’s defensive turnaround, having an All-Pro caliber player as your No. 1 cornerback certainly hasn’t hurt.

Sherman missed the 49ers’ Week 15 loss against Atlanta, and hopes to return to the lineup before Saturday’s showdown with the Los Angeles Rams at Levi’s Stadium.

Tomsula was never the coordinator. That was Vic Fangio and Eric Mangini

 

[AbeBeta]

Taco played solid this year once he got to
Miami
Some never do
But hopefully he’s smart enough to know he has a clean slate and an opportunity to show he belongs. He’s also got millions in his future if he just becomes decent

Really?

Miami sat him when healthy four times. Miami doesn't exactly have a deep roster.

So that's two coaching staffs that think poorly of the guy.