Tony Hill ring of honor?

NickZepp

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In the 7 years that he and Drew Pearson we're on the team together Hill led the team in receptions 6 times, receiving yards 6 times, and TD's 5 times. Hill's rookie season he didn't play on offense regularly and had 2 receptions, that would be the only year he wasn't the team's receving leader until his last season (where he still was the leading WR in receptions, yards, and TDs).

So in essence when Pearson and Hill were starting across from each other, Hill led the team in receptions and receiving yards every season, and TD's in all but one. Their career numbers in every category are almost identical; Pearson had 10 more receptions, 166 less yards, and 3 less touchdowns than Hill (despite playiing 1 more season -- 11 to 10). Hill went on to lead the team in receing two more years, after Pearson retired, before finishing behind Hershel Walker his last year.

Why am I saying this? Not because I believe Hill was better than Pearson, but because he was not a clear WR2. No "clear" WR2 leads the team in receiving every year when across from a "clear" WR1. Yet Hill did. He and Pearson were 1a and 1b (interchangeably) before those labels even existed.

Tony Hill contributed to a superbowl win, another superbowl appearance, as well as 4 more conference championship appearances. The disrespect he gets is sometimes borderline sad to criminal.


There's a lot of misconception of Hill he was definitely the number 1 once he started. His peak was also longer than Drew Pearsons. Drew started falling off after 1979 not getting more than 50 receptions or 700 yards again after that season. Tony Hill had 2 seasons under 700 yards and one of those season (1982) was a shortened season he would have had about 1000 yards that year if it was a full season.

I still think we should be putting in Harvey Martin, Too Tall Jones, and Jimmy Johnson before we think about guys like Tony Hill though.
 

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NBC just used the clip in their opening. League can't have it both ways. Need to rescind the fines
 

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There's a lot of misconception of Hill he was definitely the number 1 once he started. His peak was also longer than Drew Pearsons. Drew started falling off after 1979 not getting more than 50 receptions or 700 yards again after that season. Tony Hill had 2 seasons under 700 yards and one of those season (1982) was a shortened season he would have had about 1000 yards that year if it was a full season.

I still think we should be putting in Harvey Martin, Too Tall Jones, and Jimmy Johnson before we think about guys like Tony Hill though.

Completely agree on the RoH part, my reply was to simply state that he was not clearly a WR2. That being said, it is beyond sad that the people you listed have not already been in the ring for a long time.
 

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I don't know about Hill, but guys like Harvey Martin, Too Tall, Ralph Neely, John Niland, and Cornell Green should probably be there.
 

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Tony Hill is one of only two Cowboys to lead the team in receiving 8 straight years (Irvin) and is third in team receiving

for 7 of those 8 years they were a playoff team, winning one conference title

seems odd that he isnt in the ring of honor


No.
 

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Tony Hill is one of only two Cowboys to lead the team in receiving 8 straight years (Irvin) and is third in team receiving

for 7 of those 8 years they were a playoff team, winning one conference title

seems odd that he isnt in the ring of honor
Tony Hill, Harvey Martin, Cornell Green, and any of the Great Wall of Dallas should be in the Ring of Honor at minimum (GWD should go in as a unit) and Martin and Green deserve the Hall of Fame.
No. He was a clear WR2 before that label even existed. Not everyone can get into the Ring of Honor. It’s supposed to be exclusive. Hill was a very good player but he doesn’t make the cut.
Tony Hill was a no.1 WR the majority of his career. People forget that he played 6 of his 10 year career leading the Cowboys in receiving with Drew Pearson on the other side (this is why it took Drew so long to get in the HOF). When you lead the Cowboys in receiving 8 of the 10 years you played with a HOF WR opposite you, you are a no.1 WR.
 

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Tony Hill is one of only two Cowboys to lead the team in receiving 8 straight years (Irvin) and is third in team receiving

for 7 of those 8 years they were a playoff team, winning one conference title

seems odd that he isnt in the ring of honor
Seems odd Jimmy is not in the ROH.
A lot of things are odd here.
 

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Tony Hill is one of only two Cowboys to lead the team in receiving 8 straight years (Irvin) and is third in team receiving

for 7 of those 8 years they were a playoff team, winning one conference title

seems odd that he isnt in the ring of honor
Jerry can't put anybody in the ROH because it draws attention to the fact that Jimmy is not in.
We will probably have to wait for Stephen to get several deserving players in.
Just hope they are not all dead by them.. smh
 

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The thing that hurts Tony Hill compared to Pearson is lack of post season success. Where as Drew Pearson had tons of big post season games Hill had a couple really good ones and one or two decent ones that's it. Pearson will always be most remembered for the Hail Mary catch but also had a huge game his first post season game against the Rams, had some big catches against the Steelers, had 2 TDs in the come back against Atlanta in 80. Pearson's post season numbers still hold up 67 catches 1105 yards 8 TDs. Michael Irvin is the only Cowboy with better numbers, and you can argue Pearson's numbers overall because his yards per catch TDs per catch are both better than Playmaker's
 

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Hayes, Pearson, and Irvin are the only WRs in the RoH, and I don't see any others in the history of the franchise that warrant addition. Perhaps Lamb will one day be the 4th.
 
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