Tony Romo at the end of the year?

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mickgreen58;1919128 said:
The "no life" quip is an odd one ;) .

When the discussion of Jessica Simpson is brought to the surface, everyone is essentially basing their opinion on what they would have done in the same situation.

Tony Romo is a grown man that is free to do whatever he pleases as long at it is legal. What Tony Romo has to realize is that he is not living in a vacuum. He has to understand that there are indeed people as you say "with no life" (which I totally disagree with) that will pick apart and dissect every decision he makes, whether on the field or off.

To conclude, the big, stinky, fat elephant is in the room and Tony Romo has to acknowledge his existence and deal with him accordingly.

abersonc;1919145 said:
It does get old -- but if Romo is going to be affected by people judging him then it is a problem that can't be denied. Romo was clearly not enjoying himself late in the season and that very likely could be due to all the press.

Whether it is right or wrong is not relevant. That's all theoretical, should be type stuff. What is relevant is that this is how Romo is going to be treated in the press and if he doesn't like that and if it affects his game, then he needs to make sure he doesn't give the press anything to write.

i understand what you're both saying - to a degree. just because the masses think shouting at romo is effective doesn't make it so to me.

1. i know it will happen a majority of the time
2. doesn't mean it's 'right' to me

but yes, romo has to understand that while unfortunate, people will dog his every move. admirable to still do what you want, but it won't take long before what he wants is people to quit dogging his every move, so i'm sure in time he'll make less 'questionable' ones.

ya'll are a bit to the left on this and i'm a bit to the right of center. and abs, you're right that right or wrong doesn't matter, it's the way it is. no i don't like it but not much i can do on this one.
 

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iceberg;1919070 said:
the "problem" here isn't romo - it's everyone with no life judging his every move because...they have no life.

yes he got bad press on it - but only because of perception, NOT reality. hell, peyton was busy making stupid oreo commercials with his brother - how come we don't hear about how bad timimg that was?

people put far too much of a focus on the personal life of a celebrity. romo and just about *all* NFL players are a celeb to a degree. being a celeb seems to mean everyone has a right to judge your life simply because they saw you on tv and could do so much better.

if they could play at all, that is. but they can't so they sit and judge.

gets old.

You know you just said the problem is the World around Romo? ;) That kind of logic won't work. people have to learn to deal with the world they are given. Romo dealt with it poorly. I mean if you know what kind of reaction you're going to get, then it is your fault if you don't avoid it. If you don't know, then you have some growing up to do, because you obviously don't have a grasp on reality. I'm sure most of us saw what was going to happen from a mile away.
 

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abersonc;1919048 said:
I hope he realizes that much of this he brought on himself. But I fear that he's not learning his lessons about being a celebrity QB. He got slammed over the Carrie Underwood incident. Fine. But to repeat the mistake with Jessica Simpson at the Eagles game was dumb. THEN to be in Cabo with her, knowing full well that he'd get a ton of bad press over it, that makes me start to question his decision-making. He's not dumb or naive but he seems to be making decisions that ultimately make him unhappy.
I agree. I couldn't believe he had a quote after the playoff loss that "I thought I was making a good decision by not going to Vegas and drinking for three days." Say what?

In a way, it's a bit disappointing that he still gets mobbed, like at that restaturant near Corpus. It almost gives him the message that he's a rock star who can do no wrong even when he doesn't play well.

But honestly, I wonder if the thumb was the real cause of the frowns. He was so off in that Philly game, that had to be a lot of it. It must have been a worse injury than they let on.
 

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Gangsta Spanksta;1919160 said:
You know you just said the problem is the World around Romo? ;) That kind of logic won't work. people have to learn to deal with the world they are given. Romo dealt with it poorly. I mean if you know what kind of reaction you're going to get, then it is your fault if you don't avoid it. If you don't know, then you have some growing up to do, because you obviously don't have a grasp on reality. I'm sure most of us saw what was going to happen from a mile away.

yes the world is full of self-rightious busy bodies who love to clamor on the successful despite a total lack of success on their own.

yes, romo has some growing up to do. been saying since around december. nothing i know of can replace experience as a guide/teacher and romo got himself quite a bit this time around. we'll know a lot more of what we've got with him next year.

i do agree he needs to make better decisions to avoid that type of spotlight. but that doesn't mean i agree with the 'national enquierer' mob-mentality either. it's one of those things i just hate but like many, have to recognize it's there.
 

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Gangsta Spanksta;1919160 said:
I'm sure most of us saw what was going to happen from a mile away.

You're seeing what you want to see. It wasn;t Romo's fault that Crayton dropped the ball or quit on his route. It wasn;t Romo's fault that the ref's blew the call on the grounding. Anyone one of those three things could have won the game for the Cowboys and we would all be tlaking about beating NE right now.

Simpson is doing what is good for her career. If it is the sole reaosn she is with Romo then he is getting used. If she is with him because she cares for him, then everyone should leave them alone. Either way, it is her, not him, that is causing all the fuss.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1919171 said:
I agree. I couldn't believe he had a quote after the playoff loss that "I thought I was making a good decision by not going to Vegas and drinking for three days." Say what?

Didn't know he said that.

This reeks of a guy that is extremely credulous when it comes to the media.
 

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fortdick;1919177 said:
You're seeing what you want to see. It wasn;t Romo's fault that Crayton dropped the ball or quit on his route. It wasn;t Romo's fault that the ref's blew the call on the grounding. Anyone one of those three things could have won the game for the Cowboys and we would all be tlaking about beating NE right now.

Simpson is doing what is good for her career. If it is the sole reaosn she is with Romo then he is getting used. If she is with him because she cares for him, then everyone should leave them alone. Either way, it is her, not him, that is causing all the fuss.

Well, I thought the discussion was about Romo's mental state -- him not smiling anymore for example. I also am not someone who said Romo lost us the game. I think it was those two very stupid penalties that did that to us. But Romo wasn't playing on the same level either. The point is: if the media is getting to him, then it is his own fault, because that is their obvious response. You have also quarterbacks and coaches saying his actions weren't too wise, and you have Parcells warning him about it.
 

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Gangsta Spanksta;1919207 said:
Well, I thought the discussion was about Romo's mental state -- him not smiling anymore for example. I also am not someone who said Romo lost us the game. I think it was those two very stupid penalties that did that to us. But Romo wasn't playing on the same level either. The point is: if the media is getting to him, then it is his own fault, because that is their obvious response. You have also quarterbacks and coaches saying his actions weren't too wise, and you have Parcells warning him about it.

i hate it - but i agree. he did seem like the media and attention were taking the fun out of it for him. if he doesn't like that or can't handle it, then he needs to minimize what he does to gain that attention.

like i said, i hate it, but i have to agree that's what happened.
 

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iceberg;1919218 said:
i hate it - but i agree. he did seem like the media and attention were taking the fun out of it for him. if he doesn't like that or can't handle it, then he needs to minimize what he does to gain that attention.

like i said, i hate it, but i have to agree that's what happened.

There is truth in what you are saying, however, I don;t think the media treated Romo fairly. Why aren't they following around Brady? I think there was a concerted effort by the media to get into the Cowboys' heads at the end of the season. I think they wanted Dallas to fail and they got exactly what they wanted. NY v. Boston. The media is always biased towards this rivalry.

If I was Romo, I would be ticked off as well. It is none of their business who he is dating. They can report onit, ala Brady, but to make it a daily circus is not right. And now we have fans that want to blame him for losing to the Giants because of his personal life. I would tell all of 'em to take a flying frick.
 

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fortdick;1919322 said:
There is truth in what you are saying, however, I don;t think the media treated Romo fairly. Why aren't they following around Brady? I think there was a concerted effort by the media to get into the Cowboys' heads at the end of the season. I think they wanted Dallas to fail and they got exactly what they wanted. NY v. Boston. The media is always biased towards this rivalry.

If I was Romo, I would be ticked off as well. It is none of their business who he is dating. They can report onit, ala Brady, but to make it a daily circus is not right. And now we have fans that want to blame him for losing to the Giants because of his personal life. I would tell all of 'em to take a flying frick.
This reminds me of a great quote from "The American President."

"With all due respect sir, the American people have a funny way of deciding on their own what is and what is not their business."

I don't buy the tabloids or watch the entertainment shows, but if no one cared, there would be no money to be made, and Romo would be able to do what he wants in peace. But there are a lot of people, even some on this board, who are interested in this stuff, I don't know why. ESPN itself has become a mostly tabloid journalistic style. I don't watch it as much as I used to.

But Romo has to know this stuff. You can't just blame Jessica. This is the ultimate "takes two to tango" scenario.

And they don't follow Brady because he's not dating A-B listers. Bridget Moynihan is probably more famous as Brady's baby momma than she is as an actress. And Gisele, while gorgeous, isn't exactly seeking out the press. She's just a model, and she doesn't say much.
 

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peplaw06;1919353 said:
This reminds me of a great quote from "The American President."

"With all due respect sir, the American people have a funny way of deciding on their own what is and what is not their business."

I don't buy the tabloids or watch the entertainment shows, but if no one cared, there would be no money to be made, and Romo would be able to do what he wants in peace. But there are a lot of people, even some on this board, who are interested in this stuff, I don't know why. ESPN itself has become a mostly tabloid journalistic style. I don't watch it as much as I used to.

But Romo has to know this stuff. You can't just blame Jessica. This is the ultimate "takes two to tango" scenario.

And they don't follow Brady because he's not dating A-B listers. Bridget Moynihan is probably more famous as Brady's baby momma than she is as an actress. And Gisele, while gorgeous, isn't exactly seeking out the press. She's just a model, doesn't say much.

Well, I hope he is getting more than just a tango out of this.

But you are right, he should have expected some of it. Some of it would have been fine, but I believe that a lot of it was an attempt to get into his head and distract him from his game. I don't think it worked, although he didn't look to be having as much fun at the end of the year.

I do believe that she is more popular than he is because she is the one that shows up in the tabloids. Landing the Dallas Cowboy QB would serve her image. Especially since she is trying to push her country girl image now that she is coming out with a country album.

I thought Tony did fine with the whole situation.
 

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fortdick;1919371 said:
Well, I hope he is getting more than just a tango out of this.

But you are right, he should have expected some of it. Some of it would have been fine, but I believe that a lot of it was an attempt to get into his head and distract him from his game. I don't think it worked, although he didn't look to be having as much fun at the end of the year.

I do believe that she is more popular than he is because she is the one that shows up in the tabloids. Landing the Dallas Cowboy QB would serve her image. Especially since she is trying to push her country girl image now that she is coming out with a country album.

I thought Tony did fine with the whole situation.
Yeah I'm not concerned about that with Tony. he just had to know that this was how it would be, at least to some extent. i mean it was big when he was dating Carrie Underwood, so it was going to be huge.

BTW... how's your daughter doin?
 

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the biggest problem is Tony's lack of judgement in dealing with pop-tart and her pimp-daddy. reports are that joe simpson notified the press of her trip, selling photos, etc. the guys is a controller to the extreme.

the irony was during the philthy game is daddy-dearest had jessica very visible in her cute pink Romo jersey, then she went into hiding as feedback came. cunning & calculated. probalby thought Romo would be good press for jessica.

don't get me wrong, Romo is my favorite cowboy QB since Roger going by his onfield play (not superbowls or taking into account the overall team).

i just think Tuna was more right than wrong about him. No drew shouldn't have started last year but tuna saw an immaturity lurking underneath the overall goodness about him. it bit him in the arse in Nov/Dec. his free ride ended with the $$$ contract. ymmv.
 

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chinch;1919492 said:
the biggest problem is Tony's lack of judgement in dealing with pop-tart and her pimp-daddy. reports are that joe simpson notified the press of her trip, selling photos, etc. the guys is a controller to the extreme.

the irony was during the philthy game is daddy-dearest had jessica very visible in her cute pink Romo jersey, then she went into hiding as feedback came. cunning & calculated. probalby thought Romo would be good press for jessica.

don't get me wrong, Romo is my favorite cowboy QB since Roger going by his onfield play (not superbowls or taking into account the overall team).

i just think Tuna was more right than wrong about him. No drew shouldn't have started last year but tuna saw an immaturity lurking underneath the overall goodness about him. it bit him in the arse in Nov/Dec. his free ride ended with the $$$ contract. ymmv.

i think romo just needed some experience and to have to grow up some. get punched in the face a few times. he was "too good" early on and may have lost sight of how much effort and work "winning" takes. it happens. if it did i have every faith he'll come around with this experience.
 

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iceberg;1919070 said:
the "problem" here isn't romo - it's everyone with no life judging his every move because...they have no life.

yes he got bad press on it - but only because of perception, NOT reality. hell, peyton was busy making stupid oreo commercials with his brother - how come we don't hear about how bad timimg that was?

people put far too much of a focus on the personal life of a celebrity. romo and just about *all* NFL players are a celeb to a degree. being a celeb seems to mean everyone has a right to judge your life simply because they saw you on tv and could do so much better.

if they could play at all, that is. but they can't so they sit and judge.

gets old.
:hammer:
 

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Sometimes I wish that Romo had married a nice girl he met at Eastern Illinois and would've just been concentrating on football the last few years, instead of trying to live this playboy lifestyle with his sudden fame.
 

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abersonc;1919048 said:
I noticed his mood change as well -- he really didn't look like he was having any fun at the end of the season.

I hope he realizes that much of this he brought on himself. But I fear that he's not learning his lessons about being a celebrity QB. He got slammed over the Carrie Underwood incident. Fine. But to repeat the mistake with Jessica Simpson at the Eagles game was dumb. THEN to be in Cabo with her, knowing full well that he'd get a ton of bad press over it, that makes me start to question his decision-making. He's not dumb or naive but he seems to be making decisions that ultimately make him unhappy.

Tony has a right to live his life how he wants and with whom he wants. It isn't like he is running his mouth and giving our opponents incentive (Crayton does that!). :banghead:
 

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Bach;1919525 said:
Sometimes I wish that Romo had married a nice girl he met at Eastern Illinois and would've just been concentrating on football the last few years, instead of trying to live this playboy lifestyle with his sudden fame.

hehe, for sure. it's as if he's proving to her he can bang every famous hanger-on-er. YOU HAVE ALL SUMMER FOR THAT. i'm not saying he's NOT concentrating on football, but i know the press effected his attitude, interviews, press conferences and so it obviously effected him as a person. all of which was an unnecessary distraction he brought on himself.

while his dad is treating for cancer.

jeezuz.

he needs to spend some time with Derek Jeter and clutch guys who perform on teh field better than off the field.
 

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Romo's play coincided with his thumb injury and Owens injury it is that simple.
 

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Bach;1919525 said:
Sometimes I wish that Romo had married a nice girl he met at Eastern Illinois and would've just been concentrating on football the last few years, instead of trying to live this playboy lifestyle with his sudden fame.

if he did that he may not even be here. you can't change 1 aspect of someone w/o likely changing the choices they make because of that trait-change.

romo is a show. he's funny. people love him. he's good. in many ways he's a natural. the media is going to follow those players because those players do things like sign $65mil contracts and date starlettes. people feed off of that and love it.

and hate it.

this is romo, good or bad. as a package i'm thrilled he's a cowboy and in time i'm sure he'll be all we want him to be.

in time.
 
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