Tony Romo in a ball control offense

[DOUBLE WING]

Would anyone else like to see this? I hate to be the "DURR WE SHOULD HAVE HIRED JIM HARBUAGH" guy (although I was/am that guy), but I think an offense like that would be fantastic for Romo. Basically, we need to stop asking him to win us games, because as history as shown, he's just as likely to make a fatal mistake that will lose the game.

This is not a knock on Romo, because I think he's a fantastic quarterback who can make every throw. I just don't think he's Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Drew Brees. I think Garrett wants him to be, but he's just not. So we continue to spread the field and try to mimic what those teams are doing and it's just not working.

I'd love to see someone like Harbaugh or Gruden get their hands on Romo. The talent is all there, he just needs to be reigned in. He can lead this team to a Superbowl but he needs someone who knows how to "manage" him. Romo in a west coast offense like Gruden's or a team with a strong run first mentality like Harbaugh's could be deadly.

 

[Sarge]

It's just a really bad situation b/c we CAN'T run the football so we are forced to pass it. This whole thing will (could) be remedied with SOME semblance of an OL.

 

[Joe Realist]

Would anyone else like to see this? I hate to be the "DURR WE SHOULD HAVE HIRED JIM HARBUAGH" guy (although I was/am that guy), but I think an offense like that would be fantastic for Romo. Basically, we need to stop asking him to win us games, because as history as shown, he's just as likely to make a fatal mistake that will lose the game.

This is not a knock on Romo, because I think he's a fantastic quarterback who can make every throw. I just don't think he's Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Drew Brees. I think Garrett wants him to be, but he's just not. So we continue to spread the field and try to mimic what those teams are doing and it's just not working.

I'd love to see someone like Harbaugh or Gruden get their hands on Romo. The talent is all there, he just needs to be reigned in. He can lead this team to a Superbowl but he needs someone who knows how to "manage" him. Romo in a west coast offense like Gruden's or a team with a strong run first mentality like Harbaugh's could be deadly.

Harbaugh would not work here as he is control freak and would clash with Jerry

 

[Lazyking]

Yes but you need an o-line for that. Can't just run the ball when it doesn't matter

 

[CxC1993]

It's just a really bad situation b/c we CAN'T run the football so we are forced to pass it. This whole thing will (could) be remedied with SOME semblance of an OL.

This.

 

[superpunk]

It would be nice to see Romo in any kind of offense.

What type of offense do we run now? We try some zone blocking stretch plays here and there but if they get busted up we abandon it. We'll try straight ahead man on man stuff and abandon that too. Are we a short passing WC offense that will go after the occasional deep ball? Are we a pound it offense that will go deep on you off play action?

No. Garrett tries to be all of and none of those things.

I've felt that way for years. What is our identity on offense? We don't have one, unless it's Tony dodging rushers, improvising, and hitting someone down the field.

I feel like Garrett tries to be good at everything, and that's simply not possible. You have to have a core group of plays or at least concepts that you do really, really well -- which are centered on the talents of your best players -- and build around that. Then you can add some wrinkles week to week. But you can't be so diverse that you're never truly good at anything.

Look at the freaking Commanders man. Alfred Morris and a rag tag bunch of linemen are putting up some of the best rushing numbers in the NFL. Yeah some of that is RG3's threat, but hell we have an elite QB that defenses have to fear. Why is Shanahan's approach working? Because he has a system that works, he got players that can work within it and he's committed to it.

Jason has none of that. No plan that anyone can see except to stack good days on top of good days in a process manner, or any other combination of words he likes to toss out in his allegedly good press conferences where he doesn't say a thing and just looks more and more inept and lost.

Imagine Romo with someone who wasn't so pitifully over his head. Someone who went into a game with a plan and stuck to it rather than "Well the run's not working in the first quarter better go 3-wide from the shotgun for the rest of the game".

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I've been thinking basically the same thing with regards to Romo, he's an excellent QB but he doesn't have the big arm to drill the ball into coverage when they are laying in wait for the pass,,, which is exactly what they do when they do not respect your running game.

Jerry has basically done the opposite of what a good GM does, he has not complimented his QB with the one thing he really really needs, decent pass protection and a decent running game.

 

[Tabascocat]

I don't know what the answer is, but it might be time to consider two different option:

1. add Beasley as a 4th starting receiver and start hitting some fast run and shoot pass plays on 1st down in the 5 to 12yd varieties. This may open up the running game if they can consistently gain around 4 to 6 yds on 1st down.

2. either take out Ogltree or Vickers and add in an extra TE on the line, make both of them block and force-feed the run until the passing game opens up. I saw GB and SF do this recently.

I don't know what to try, but something different has to be given a chance. I don't see any offensive philosophy or game-plan that lasts to the 2nd qtr. Once Garrett bails on the game-plan, it is a crapshoot from there on out. I would seriously consider limiting Dez's role on the team until he can prove his head is in the right place, use Beasley or Harris on most of the plays.

 

[ufcrules1]

Harbaugh would not work here as he is control freak and would clash with Jerry

Bingo! That is our BIGGEST problem here in Dallas. Jerry is a control freak and doesn't know what he is doing. He needs a coach that is willing to bow down to him and that is exactly what he has in Garrett.

Our problem starts at the very top.

 

[elcocinero]

The Cowboys offense revolves around Romo. He directs everyone where to go, they cant run the ball, they cant block for Romo, his receivers cant catch the ball, so Romo tries to do everything by himself.

At the end of the game the Bears were playing a soft cover 2 and still getting pressure on Romo. Romo didnt want to just sit back and take a sack, so he tried to Drill the ball into what little space he had and was picked off because of it.

I wish he would have just dumped the ball off 3 times to Witten or Murray then punt. He doesnt deserve this crap of a team.

 

[Gameover]

The Cowboys can't run the ball, cause teams aren't afraid of Romo beating them with his arm.

Kyle Orton would get the most out of our skill players.

Kyle Orton would open up some running lanes.

 

[blackbull]

I think we need to eliminate sight adjustments. Just give Tony one play and an audible play and go play football. The d is the strength of the team and we constantly put then in bad spots with turnovers. I like the niners strategy. Sacks over interceptions. At least punt the ball and make teams earn it. I don't want to see Ed Reed in our end zone because of confusion. Adjust to your personnel. Trade Dez next year if he can't cut it mentally, but for right now, dumb it down.

 

[Frozen700]

The Cowboys can't run the ball, cause teams aren't afraid of Romo beating them with his arm.

Kyle Orton would get the most out of our skill players.

Kyle Orton would open up some running lanes.

Yeah Kyle Orton..... For The Win!!!!

What do you think guys?

Gameover should be GM of this team!

 

[kirkjrk]

I don't know what the answer is, but it might be time to consider two different option:

1. add Beasley as a 4th starting receiver and start hitting some fast run and shoot pass plays on 1st down in the 5 to 12yd varieties. This may open up the running game if they can consistently gain around 4 to 6 yds on 1st down.

2. either take out Ogltree or Vickers and add in an extra TE on the line, make both of them block and force-feed the run until the passing game opens up. I saw GB and SF do this recently.

I don't know what to try, but something different has to be given a chance. I don't see any offensive philosophy or game-plan that lasts to the 2nd qtr. Once Garrett bails on the game-plan, it is a crapshoot from there on out. I would seriously consider limiting Dez's role on the team until he can prove his head is in the right place, use Beasley or Harris on most of the plays.

Agree.

 

[Sasquatch]

Would anyone else like to see this? I hate to be the "DURR WE SHOULD HAVE HIRED JIM HARBUAGH" guy (although I was/am that guy), but I think an offense like that would be fantastic for Romo. Basically, we need to stop asking him to win us games, because as history as shown, he's just as likely to make a fatal mistake that will lose the game.

This is not a knock on Romo, because I think he's a fantastic quarterback who can make every throw. I just don't think he's Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Drew Brees. I think Garrett wants him to be, but he's just not. So we continue to spread the field and try to mimic what those teams are doing and it's just not working.

I'd love to see someone like Harbaugh or Gruden get their hands on Romo. The talent is all there, he just needs to be reigned in. He can lead this team to a Superbowl but he needs someone who knows how to "manage" him. Romo in a west coast offense like Gruden's or a team with a strong run first mentality like Harbaugh's could be deadly.

Good in theory, but need to be able to control the line of scrimmage, which our OL cannot.

 

[Gameover]

Yeah Kyle Orton..... For The Win!!!!

What do you think guys?

Gameover should be GM of this team!

I wish!

 

[AKATheRake]

Yes we need an effective o-line to run the ball well.

It may also help if we didn't get so cute every second running play and call draws or delayed running plays. That's both on Garrett and Romo when he audibles.

We have a very physical back and we should just pin our ears back more physicalyl with our o-linemen, as well get Murray out there busting the oppositions corners wheels on the edge.

What do you think Chicago was doing first thing offensively? Make sure they wear down our corners wheels by forcing them to tackle their RB's.

Seattle did it too.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Would anyone else like to see this? I hate to be the "DURR WE SHOULD HAVE HIRED JIM HARBUAGH" guy (although I was/am that guy), but I think an offense like that would be fantastic for Romo. Basically, we need to stop asking him to win us games, because as history as shown, he's just as likely to make a fatal mistake that will lose the game.

This is not a knock on Romo, because I think he's a fantastic quarterback who can make every throw. I just don't think he's Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Drew Brees. I think Garrett wants him to be, but he's just not. So we continue to spread the field and try to mimic what those teams are doing and it's just not working.

I'd love to see someone like Harbaugh or Gruden get their hands on Romo. The talent is all there, he just needs to be reigned in. He can lead this team to a Superbowl but he needs someone who knows how to "manage" him. Romo in a west coast offense like Gruden's or a team with a strong run first mentality like Harbaugh's could be deadly.

If we go to a ball control offense, honestly.. i'd rather see Kyle Orten lead it. Romo can't play that way. That's not his mentality and you'd be taking away the things that make him uniquely great by asking him to reign it in. He's a gunslinger, a guy who can take a broken play, improvise and make something huge out of nothing at times. I just don't know that he has the mentality to be a bus driver type of QB.

 

[superpunk]

I think we need to eliminate sight adjustments. Just give Tony one play and an audible play and go play football. The d is the strength of the team and we constantly put then in bad spots with turnovers. I like the niners strategy. Sacks over interceptions. At least punt the ball and make teams earn it. I don't want to see Ed Reed in our end zone because of confusion. Adjust to your personnel. Trade Dez next year if he can't cut it mentally, but for right now, dumb it down.

This is great advice. If you see your team is too dumb for your system then dumb it down for them. No sense throwing the Harvard playbook at functional retards. I think Parcells had Payton do that back in the day.